Everlasting Scars/Wounds Of Third Reich Personalities

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Re: Everlasting Scars/Wounds Of Third Reich Personalities

Post by AlifRafikKhan » 19 Oct 2009 18:04

Hauptmann Erbo Graf von Kageneck (April 2, 1918 - January 12, 1942)

On December 24 1941, Kageneck was seriously wounded in combat with several Desert Air Force (DAF) Tomahawks, and Hurricanes south of Agedabia. Both Sgt. Maxwell (of No. 94 Squadron RAF) and P/O Thompson (No. 229 Squadron RAF) made claims for a fighter shot down in the same action. Many years later, some sources, including Kageneck's brother, August Graf von Kageneck, claimed that the shots which hit Erbo were fired by the pre-eminent Australian ace of the war, Clive Caldwell. The main reason for this was that Caldwell favoured attacks from beneath his opponents, which was precisely the fashion in which Kageneck's wounds were sustained...

Although he suffered severe injuries to his stomach, abdomen and groin, Kageneck managed to fly his crippled fighter back to his base at El Magrun and pull off an emergency landing. He was immediately evacuated, first to a hospital in Athens, and then to another in Naples where, despite intensive care, he died of his wounds on January 12, 1942 at the age of 23. He was posthumously promoted to Hauptmann...

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Re: Everlasting Scars/Wounds Of Third Reich Personalities

Post by Anil » 28 Oct 2009 21:48

DKİG Holder Erich Gattermig

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Re: Everlasting Scars/Wounds Of Third Reich Personalities

Post by AlifRafikKhan » 06 Nov 2009 17:39

Major Max Edler von der Planitz (1903-1990)

Looks like he have his own Schmiß!

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Re: Everlasting Scars/Wounds Of Third Reich Personalities

Post by Anil » 09 Nov 2009 10:03

Major Dr. Egon Treeck

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Very nice Schmiß :D
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Re: Everlasting Scars/Wounds Of Third Reich Personalities

Post by pavel michalek » 09 Nov 2009 16:34

Hanns Albin Rauter
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hanns_Albin_Rauter
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Post by Dieter Zinke » 09 Nov 2009 18:29

pavel michalek wrote:Hanns Albin Rauter
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hanns_Albin_Rauter
generalsshansalbinrauter1jl.jpg
These two pics are really exemplary for the birth defect and the disequilibrium of whole the thread:
we see at left the "Schmisse" - the scars - from the student' s duel (Rauter in the Corps “Joannea“ in Graz)
and at right
the follow-up of the assassination on 06.03.1945 near Woeste Hoeve.
But no wounds from fighting as a soldier are to be seen.

This dubiety leaves a lot to be desired !! I
Finally I want to close whole the topic !!


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Re: Everlasting Scars/Wounds Of Third Reich Personalities

Post by pavel michalek » 09 Nov 2009 21:24

Dieter Zinke wrote:
pavel michalek wrote:Hanns Albin Rauter
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hanns_Albin_Rauter
generalsshansalbinrauter1jl.jpg
These two pics are really exemplary for the birth defect and the disequilibrium of whole the thread:
we see at left the "Schmisse" - the scars - from the student' s duel (Rauter in the Corps “Joannea“ in Graz)
and at right
the follow-up of the assassination on 06.03.1945 near Woeste Hoeve.
But no wounds from fighting as a soldier are to be seen.

This dubiety leaves a lot to be desired !! I
Finally I want to close whole the topic !!
Dieter,
there wasn´t actually written any restriction for adding here person wounded in combat. :? The name of this thread is by the way Everlasting Scars/Wounds Of Third Reich Personalities and no matter Rauter´s scars weren´t from combat, they were everlasting for sure. Also If you still think I was mistaken by my last post into this topic, why are you threatening us by closing of the whole thread just because of my own "mistake". It wouldn´t be fair to others, who wish to add more personalities in here, if you mean it seriously.
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Re: Everlasting Scars/Wounds Of Third Reich Personalities

Post by Dieter Zinke » 10 Nov 2009 00:34

Oh, I mean it very seriously, but many thousand german soldiers had "Schmisse" (student' s scars) and with this our thread will never end.

Otherwise for example SS-Obergruppenführer und General der Waffen-SS und der Polizei Curt von Gottberg had also everlasting wounds: he lost a lower leg. Causation: a car accident (with drunkenness ?). Is this worth mentioning in this thread too ???

And also: Where is the informational value in posting only pics ???

Note: "Everything is allowed which is not explicitly forbidden by law" and "Anything goes" can' t be an alibi to post irrelevances :wink:

In this spirit hoping this will find your friendly attention

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Re: Everlasting Scars/Wounds Of Third Reich Personalities

Post by pavel michalek » 11 Nov 2009 15:56

OK, I´ve made mistake! I admitting it, and I´m sorry!
Still I hope your threat on closing this topic, wasn´t serious as I thought. It would be little bit tough, don´t you think?

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Post by Dieter Zinke » 11 Nov 2009 17:22

:)

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Re: Everlasting Scars/Wounds Of Third Reich Personalities

Post by Red Baroness » 20 Nov 2009 17:30

Notes from a friend (who is the author of the Wikipedia biography) and my own research prompt me to nominate Walter Oesau for a couple of good scars. As this color image from http://www.luftwaffe39-45.historia.nom. ... /oesau.htm shows, there's a faint scar from the chin (there was no cleft chin in earlier photographs) to the right side of the mouth.
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I have other photographs that show the difference from earlier photographs (one from an old defunct eBay auction of Oesau in his early 20s) and later photos (including one from the Udet funeral that clearly shows the facial damage caused by a shrapnel wound)

There were also other scars or wounds acquired by Oesau, but not seen readily in any photograph (though you can see the result of them in video as he has a distinct limp/hitch in his step)
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Re: Everlasting Scars/Wounds Of Third Reich Personalities

Post by AlifRafikKhan » 11 Jun 2010 23:28

Adolf Hitler visits Kurt von Briesen on the Polish front, September 1939. Some sources say von Briesen's left forearm was wounded, not his right, but are contradicted by this image. Moreover, the image is not reversed, since Hitler and von Briesen both wear their Iron Crosses on their left breast pockets, where they were customarily worn...

Source : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kurt_von_Briesen
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Post by AlifRafikKhan » 07 Jul 2010 23:22

Horrible wounds of Karl B. (anyone know his last name and what kind of wounds is that?)

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Post by Dieter Zinke » 08 Jul 2010 07:19

AlifRafikKhan wrote:Horrible wounds of Karl B. (anyone know his last name and what kind of wounds is that?)
Characteristical burns

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Re: Everlasting Scars/Wounds Of Third Reich Personalities

Post by AlifRafikKhan » 08 Jul 2010 16:34

Thank you dear Oberstab, as always... :)

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