Generalleutnant Philipp Zoch

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Generalleutnant Philipp Zoch

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Post by Alter.Sammler » 15 Apr 2010, 21:40

Hello,
I am looking for a picture of Generalleutnant Philipp Zoch
and
General der Flieger Dr. phil. Eugen Weissmann

Can somebody helps me in this case? Thank you very much in advance.
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Post by Matteus » 29 Apr 2010, 22:52

Zoch and Weissmann (both from ABR)

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Post by Alter.Sammler » 30 Apr 2010, 22:18

Thank you very much, Matteus.

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Post by Nicolas7507 » 28 Mar 2020, 12:23

Great photo of Philipp Zoch
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Post by Shakar » 20 Aug 2021, 15:15

Hi, can anyone help me again, yeah, decipher the ribbon bar of GL Zoch. Thank you very very much.
1. EK2 + Spange
2. House Hoh. RK Schwertern
3. Albrechts-Orden RK 2.kl mit Schwertern
4. Ehrenkreuz f. Frontk.
5.+6. WHDA 1.+3.kl
7. Medaille zur Erinnerung an den 13. März 1938
8. Medaille zur Erinnerung an den 1. Oktober 1938
9. ?
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Post by graveland » 20 Aug 2021, 15:29

Shakar wrote:
20 Aug 2021, 15:15
Hi, can anyone help me again, yeah, decipher the ribbon bar of GL Zoch. Thank you very very much.
1. EK2 + Spange
2. House Hoh. RK Schwertern
3. Albrechts-Orden RK 2.kl mit Schwertern
4. Ehrenkreuz f. Frontk.
5.+6. WHDA 1.+3.kl
7. Medaille zur Erinnerung an den 13. März 1938
8. Medaille zur Erinnerung an den 1. Oktober 1938
9. Königlich Bulgar. Militär-Verdienstordens

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Post by Shakar » 20 Aug 2021, 15:38

Thanks. So 4., or 5. with swords + crown...
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Post by graveland » 20 Aug 2021, 15:49

Shakar wrote:
20 Aug 2021, 15:38
...with swords + crown...
Dave Danner wrote: "The Bulgarian Military Merit Order always came with swords. They were part of the design of the decoration.

With Germans, the real issue is whether the order came with the war decoration, as German sources often do not show that".

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Post by Shakar » 20 Aug 2021, 16:08

So it is with swords:D. I'd guess for 5. Nice site: https://bulgariandecorations.com/
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Post by graveland » 20 Aug 2021, 21:48

Shakar wrote:
20 Aug 2021, 16:08
So it is with swords:D. I'd guess for 5. Nice site: https://bulgariandecorations.com/
It is hard to say.

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Post by Shakar » 21 Aug 2021, 13:05

Yeap, I'm guessing because he has black yellow ribbon:
The 4th class (Officers' Cross) was for majors and captains, but he had ended WW1 as an oberleutnant.
If he got it in1940 or later, he was already a general and 3rd and higher are neck orders which he would wear then. So still a guess but I need to pick some grade.
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Post by graveland » 21 Aug 2021, 18:13

Yep, most likely he received that medal during the WWII.

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Post by Shakar » 24 Jan 2022, 22:39

GL Philipp Zoch.
1. EK2 + Spange
2. House Hoh. RK Schwertern
3. Albrechts-Orden RK 2.kl mit Schwertern ... (? help)
4. Ehrenkreuz f. Frontk.
5.+6. WHDA 1.+3.kl
7. Medaille zur Erinnerung an den 13. März 1938
8. Medaille zur Erinnerung an den 1. Oktober 1938
9. Königlich Bulgar. Militär-Verdienstordens

+ Königlich Preussisches Flugzeugbeobachter-Abzeichen Juni 1915
+ Flieger-Erinnerungsabzeichen 29.9.1919
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