Poland 1939
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Poland 1939
Dear all!
I have been working on the Polish Campaign for the last years but I have some sticky problems, which I ask you to resolve if possible. I have problems to find the following persons:
1. H. Gru. Nord
1.1 3. Armee
I. R. 44: Eberhardt (Kdr. I. R. 44) took over Brigade Danzig in 1939. The next high ranking officer was Oberst d. G. Klein in RSt I. R. 44. He was WIA and is given in the H. Gru. Nord WIA list at I. R. 44. Obviously Kdr. III./I. R. 44 Oberstlt. Gustav Wagner was following him. So was it: (1) Eberhardt, (2) Klein and (3) Wagner. Anybody able to confirm?
Danziger L. Pol. Rgt. 2: According to most online sources Kdr.was Oberstlt. v. Groddeck. The Biblio series on Generals does not confirm this. Is the series wrong on Groddeck and was Groddeck Kdr. Danziger L. Pol. Rgt. 2?
RSt A. R. 511: Who was the Commander?
1.2 4. Armee
RSt A. R. 609: Was the Commander?
I. R. 29 and MG-Btl. 8: The secondary sources are not in accordance here. Some have still Schroeck as. Kdr. I. R. 29, some already Gräser (Kdr. MG-Btl. 8). If already Gräser, who was Kdr. MG-Btl. 8.
2. H. Gru. Süd
Adjutant:Believe it or not I can not find the name of the Adjutant of v. Rundstedt. I have a source from K. R. 18 telling that Oberstlt. Frhr. v. Wechmar became Adjutant on 03.12.1939 only. So if this is correct who was Adjutant from 26.08.1939-02.12.1939?
2.1 8. Armee
8. Armee/Adjutant: Eisenhart-Rothe, formerly Adjutant, obviously followed Rudolf Hartmann as Kdt. v. Potsdam. So was it Eisenhart-Rothe, if not, who else.
2.2 10. Armee
I. R. (mot.) 66: Oberst d. G. Scheller left on 26.08.1939 to became Ch. d. Gen. St. Wehrkreis X. Who succeeded him as Commander on 26.08.1939?
I. R. 73: Still Oberst v. Gündell as Commander? Biblio series is not positive. If not who else? Steinmüller?
3. H. Gru. C
3.1 1. Armee
1. Armee/Adjutant: Who was Adjutant in 1939/1940 before Friedemund von Arnim took over?
I have problems finding the regimental commander of I. R. 205 and I. R. 222. Can anybody help me out?
3.2 7. Armee
MG-Btl. 4: Oppenländer became Kdr. I. R. 460. Who succceeded him?
Thanks for any help you might be able to give.
JÜrgen
I have been working on the Polish Campaign for the last years but I have some sticky problems, which I ask you to resolve if possible. I have problems to find the following persons:
1. H. Gru. Nord
1.1 3. Armee
I. R. 44: Eberhardt (Kdr. I. R. 44) took over Brigade Danzig in 1939. The next high ranking officer was Oberst d. G. Klein in RSt I. R. 44. He was WIA and is given in the H. Gru. Nord WIA list at I. R. 44. Obviously Kdr. III./I. R. 44 Oberstlt. Gustav Wagner was following him. So was it: (1) Eberhardt, (2) Klein and (3) Wagner. Anybody able to confirm?
Danziger L. Pol. Rgt. 2: According to most online sources Kdr.was Oberstlt. v. Groddeck. The Biblio series on Generals does not confirm this. Is the series wrong on Groddeck and was Groddeck Kdr. Danziger L. Pol. Rgt. 2?
RSt A. R. 511: Who was the Commander?
1.2 4. Armee
RSt A. R. 609: Was the Commander?
I. R. 29 and MG-Btl. 8: The secondary sources are not in accordance here. Some have still Schroeck as. Kdr. I. R. 29, some already Gräser (Kdr. MG-Btl. 8). If already Gräser, who was Kdr. MG-Btl. 8.
2. H. Gru. Süd
Adjutant:Believe it or not I can not find the name of the Adjutant of v. Rundstedt. I have a source from K. R. 18 telling that Oberstlt. Frhr. v. Wechmar became Adjutant on 03.12.1939 only. So if this is correct who was Adjutant from 26.08.1939-02.12.1939?
2.1 8. Armee
8. Armee/Adjutant: Eisenhart-Rothe, formerly Adjutant, obviously followed Rudolf Hartmann as Kdt. v. Potsdam. So was it Eisenhart-Rothe, if not, who else.
2.2 10. Armee
I. R. (mot.) 66: Oberst d. G. Scheller left on 26.08.1939 to became Ch. d. Gen. St. Wehrkreis X. Who succeeded him as Commander on 26.08.1939?
I. R. 73: Still Oberst v. Gündell as Commander? Biblio series is not positive. If not who else? Steinmüller?
3. H. Gru. C
3.1 1. Armee
1. Armee/Adjutant: Who was Adjutant in 1939/1940 before Friedemund von Arnim took over?
I have problems finding the regimental commander of I. R. 205 and I. R. 222. Can anybody help me out?
3.2 7. Armee
MG-Btl. 4: Oppenländer became Kdr. I. R. 460. Who succceeded him?
Thanks for any help you might be able to give.
JÜrgen
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Re: Poland 1939
Nobody knows the Adjutant of Rundstedt (Heeresgruppe Süd) in 1939?
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Re: Poland 1939
Hello Jürgen,
Best regards
Torsten
it seems to have been Hauptmann Eberhard Henrici (later a Generalmajor in the Bundeswehr) if the short description of his military career in a 1969 edition of the magazine Fernmelde-Impulse is correct (http://tinyurl.com/oqjjxbe).Stauffenberg II wrote: 2. H. Gru. Süd
Adjutant:Believe it or not I can not find the name of the Adjutant of v. Rundstedt. I have a source from K. R. 18 telling that Oberstlt. Frhr. v. Wechmar became Adjutant on 03.12.1939 only. So if this is correct who was Adjutant from 26.08.1939-02.12.1939?
Best regards
Torsten
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Re: Poland 1939
Hallo Jürgen, hallo Torsten
according to Würzenthal/Model "Die Generale und Admirale der Bundeswehr ... ", volume 2,1 - page 309:
Eberhard Henrici
18.08.1938 - 14.04.1940 Adjutant des Heeresnachrichtenführers A.
Consequently and regrettably not our man in question
Cheers
Dieter
according to Würzenthal/Model "Die Generale und Admirale der Bundeswehr ... ", volume 2,1 - page 309:
Eberhard Henrici
18.08.1938 - 14.04.1940 Adjutant des Heeresnachrichtenführers A.
Consequently and regrettably not our man in question
Cheers
Dieter
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Re: Poland 1939
Dear all,
a further long time mystery is resolved. The first adjutant to Rundstedt (H. Gru. Süd) until Dec. 1939 was Hans Tröger.
I have consulted T-311 Roll 244 and he is listed on several frames incl. the enclosure. So this sticky gap in the literature can be closed. He was succeeded by Wechmar.
So all sources re Tröger 09-11/1939 are wrong and he was indeed IIa (Adj.) H. Gru. Süd 26.08.1939 until being succeeded by Frhr. v. Wechmar.
a further long time mystery is resolved. The first adjutant to Rundstedt (H. Gru. Süd) until Dec. 1939 was Hans Tröger.
I have consulted T-311 Roll 244 and he is listed on several frames incl. the enclosure. So this sticky gap in the literature can be closed. He was succeeded by Wechmar.
So all sources re Tröger 09-11/1939 are wrong and he was indeed IIa (Adj.) H. Gru. Süd 26.08.1939 until being succeeded by Frhr. v. Wechmar.
Re: Poland 1939
Hello Stauffenberg
Will You kindly post the complete list ?
To HGr. Süd in sept./oct. 39 I also have a few questions, can You (or others) solve them ?
1) who was III(Richter) ?
2) who was IVa(Intendant) ?
3) was Holm IVb(Arzt) or who ?
4) was Hptm. Bickel O3(third Ordonn.) in sept. only, or wrong ?
5) was Crüwell OQu.(Oberqu.meister) from 06 sept.(from his Dienstlaufbahn) or from 01 sept.(from his Karteikarte) ?
6) from Wast there was only in sept. OTL. Lauterbach as Nachsch.Fü., wrong ?
Thanks, Rossano
Will You kindly post the complete list ?
To HGr. Süd in sept./oct. 39 I also have a few questions, can You (or others) solve them ?
1) who was III(Richter) ?
2) who was IVa(Intendant) ?
3) was Holm IVb(Arzt) or who ?
4) was Hptm. Bickel O3(third Ordonn.) in sept. only, or wrong ?
5) was Crüwell OQu.(Oberqu.meister) from 06 sept.(from his Dienstlaufbahn) or from 01 sept.(from his Karteikarte) ?
6) from Wast there was only in sept. OTL. Lauterbach as Nachsch.Fü., wrong ?
Thanks, Rossano
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Re: Poland 1939
Hello Stauffenberg
Thanks, very kind of You !
But unfortunately page 1 doesn' t reply to my questions above, too bad
Are the replies maybe in other/next pages (in the dayly diary and/or in other lists) of HGr. Süd/A ?
Thanks for Your help and time, Rossano
Thanks, very kind of You !
But unfortunately page 1 doesn' t reply to my questions above, too bad
Are the replies maybe in other/next pages (in the dayly diary and/or in other lists) of HGr. Süd/A ?
Thanks for Your help and time, Rossano
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Re: Poland 1939
Sorry, I do not remember unfortunately I can´t be of help.
A further surprise anyway is the appearance of Adolf Kuen in this Heeresgruppe, as far as I know not given in any source.
Jürgen
A further surprise anyway is the appearance of Adolf Kuen in this Heeresgruppe, as far as I know not given in any source.
Jürgen