A very elusive general

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A very elusive general

Post by birch23 » 03 May 2003 21:17

I was wondering if anyone could come up with a pic of the Hungarian General Ferenc Feketehalmy-Czeydner.after having conspired against everybody all the time he finally had to flee Hungary in 1944 as I recall from memory.He was well recieved in Germany who saw a bright light in him and was as I recall given command over an Waffen-SS Division.

I have never ever found a pic of him in books etc...so any help would be much appreciated.....thanks in advance :)

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Post by Stauffenberg II » 03 May 2003 21:56

May I introduce to you:

Franz Zeidner (hung.: Ferenc Feketehalmy-Czeydner)

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Post by birch23 » 04 May 2003 01:38

I'm very thankful indeed,so that was how he looked the old conspirator... :) but a short question.I would never have guessed his Austrian name...I wonder if I had searched under Zeidner if I have gotten him then...oh well thanks a lot.Been looking for him for over 20 years or so..and then it was so easy... :D

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Post by Stauffenberg II » 04 May 2003 08:18

You are welcome.

I don´t know why but some of the Hungarian Generals of German origin changed names (had to change names):

Gen. Obst. Gustav Jany ---> Gustav Hautzinger
Gen. Jenö Ruszkay --> Eugen Ranzenberger

Here is a list of Hungarian Generals of German origin (I think) - Source: http://www.generals.dk:

Franz (Ferenc) Zeidner (Feketehalmy-Czeydner), Gen. Obst., 22.11.1890 Piski, + 05.11.1946 YU
Lajos Keresztes-Fischer, Gen. Obst., 1884-1948
Henrik Werth, Gen. Obst., 1881-1952
Istvan Schweitzer, Gen. Lt., 1. Armee, 30.05.1941 (1887)
Eugen (Jenö) Ranzenberger (Ruszkay) (1887-1946)
Geza Heim, 14. Brig., V. Korps, 3. Armee (Marita) (1888)
Laszlo Stemmer, 108. Brig. (1942) (1889)
Marcel Graf Stomm, 2. Brig., IV. Korps, 3. Armee (Marita) (1890-1968)
Imre Ruszkieczay-Rüdiger, mind. Maj. Gen., I. Korps, 1. Armee (30.05.1941) (1889-1957)
Jenö Röder, mind. Brig. Gen., 21. Brig., VII. Korps, 3. Armee, 30.05.1941 (1889)
Jenö Felkl, mind. Brig. Gen., 1. Geb. Brig. (Beszterce), 3. Armee, VIII. Korps, 30.05.1941 (1889)
Laszlo Stirling, mind Maj. Gen., IX. Korps, 3. Armee, 30.05.1941 (1889-1969)
Istvan Tarninger (1890)
Janos (1884) und Kalman Ternegg (1887-1956)
Ferenc Tilger (1890), 21. Brig. 1941-1942
Gyözö Weinmann (1886)
Laszlo Pachner (1894)
Dezsö Pötze (1891)
Szilard Schindler (1887)
Geza Siegler (1885)
Geza Kerner
Otto Abt (1889)
Istvan Baumann (1894)
Otto Binder (1889)
Josef Böckl
Gustav Denk (1882-1960)
Geza Ehrlich (1890)
Alfred Friedrich (1884)
Ernö Friedl (1887)
Otto Hager (1885)
Vilmos Hanke (1891)
Vilmos Hellebronth (1895)
Jenö Ratz (1888-1952)
Lajos Schelken (1884)
Aladar (1885) und Zoltan (1892) Pinter

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Stauffenberg II

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Czeydner

Post by Glenn2438 » 04 May 2003 08:54

Here is Feketehalmy-Czeydner as an SS-Gruppenführer und Generalleutnant der Waffen-SS.

The process of "Magyarisation" of foreign names in Hungary started I believe in the early twenties. Although not mandatory it was encouraged in the new Hungarian state.

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Post by birch23 » 04 May 2003 10:05

That is a rare pic I would say..thanks a lot

Søren Birch-Jensen

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Post by birch23 » 04 May 2003 10:11

I was wondering Stauffenberg if I could push my luck a little further.You see for years I have been collecting pics (for private use) not only of the German generals but also of their allieds..and while having no trouble with the Germans the Romanians and the Bulgarians and partly the Italians,Hungary has proven the major stumbling block so if you have any pics of those Hungarian generals you mentioned I would indeed be very thankful.Actually I also collect pics of the Allied generals but that is another story.... :D Thank you in advance

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Post by Stauffenberg II » 04 May 2003 10:31

Sorry Søren!

Out of domain.

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Post by birch23 » 04 May 2003 10:43

That's okay... :D

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Post by birch23 » 04 May 2003 13:20

I was wondering if you had a pic of Friedrich Materna in German uniform

and pushing my luck a bit now.Alfred von Hubicki in Austrian Uniform

and Friedrich Wilhelm Müller he was GdI excecuted after the war and highly decorated.

and any info on a mysterious general Alfred Müller.I have a very very bad picture of him,but the only bio I have is that he served on the Eastern Front(Kursk) after that no info at all.I do however believe he was a Staff Offizer.Unfortunately this is a very common name.... :)

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Søren Birch-Jensen

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Post by Stauffenberg II » 04 May 2003 18:14

Hi Søren!

1. Materna: unfortunately not in German uniform
2. Hubicki: unfortunately not in Austrian uniform
3. Müller, F.-W.: enclosed, recently posted in the Forum
4. Müller, A.: No German General Alfred Müller in the German Rangliste, Army 1933-1945
5. Pics of Hungarian Generals of German Origin: I don´t have further pics of them. I would like to catch sight of them, too.

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Post by Gareth Collins » 04 May 2003 18:40

Jürgen I just noticed you're from Wiener, is that the same as Wiener Neustadt? The Renowned Military Camp?

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Post by VJK » 04 May 2003 19:13

Hi!

Here's a pic of Materna in German uniform.

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Post by Stauffenberg II » 04 May 2003 19:40

Hi Gareth!

Wiener Neustadt means New Vienna or Vienna Newcastle. Thanks to good old King Richard Lionheart the city was build with his ransom.

Yeah, we have a lot of barracks here as well as the old Royal Castle where the military academy (Theresianische Militärakademie) is located. From 1938-1945 it was called Kriegsschule Wiener Neustadt. Cdr. was Rommel (1938-1939).

We used to have an Artillery Regiment (No. 3) but it is now disbanded. But there is an Anti-Tank Batallion (6 Coys with about 72 Jaguar 1 HOT).

The HQ of the Military Special Forces (Jagdkommando) as well as the HQ of the Police Special Forces (GEK or Cobra) are situated here.

One of the two airports is still used by the Air Force (Special Forces, Paratroopers). The old Messerschmitt airport is now a civilian airport. The Messerschmitt factory was totally blown away as well as the city as a whole.

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Oberstleutnant Müller

Post by Glenn2438 » 04 May 2003 20:54

Hi Søren,

perhaps the gentleman you are referring to was the Oakleaves winner Oberstleutnant (01 April 1945) Alfred Müller who later became a Bundeswehr Brigadegeneral? He was awarded the Oakleaves to the Knight's Cross as an Hauptmann and commander of Sturmgeschütz-Abteilung 191 "Büffel" on the 15th of December 1943.

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