Admiral Karlgeorg Schuster Ribbon Bar?

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Admiral Karlgeorg Schuster Ribbon Bar?

Post by Kriegsmarine Großadmiral » 11 Nov 2017 19:55

So I found this photo of a ribbon bar that is supposed to be Admiral Schuster's? Can anyone confirm if this indeed is his ribbon bar? And also help me ID the awards in the 2nd row. Thanks.

1st row:
- 1914 EK II mit 1939 Spange
- Ritterkreuz des Kgl. Preuß. Hausordens von Hohenzollern mit Schwertern
- Lübeckisches Hanseatenkreuz
- Ehrenkreuz für Frontkämpfer
- Wehrmacht-Dienstauszeichnung 1. Klasse
- Wehrmacht-Dienstauszeichnung 3. Klasse
- Medaille zur Erinnerung an den 1. Oktober 1938
- Medaille zur Erinnerung an die Heimkehr des Memellandes

2nd row:
- ???
- ???
- ???
- ???
- ???
- ???
- ???
- ???
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Re: Admiral Karlgeorg Schuster Ribbon Bar?

Post by Dave Danner » 12 Nov 2017 02:46

The known awards match Schuster.

2nd row:
- ??? *
- Königlich Bulgarischer Militärverdienstorden 1.Klasse (Großkreuz)
- Königlich Rumänischer Orden Michael des Tapferen 3.Klasse
- Königlich Rumänischer Orden Stern von Rumänien, Großkreuz
- Königlich Rumänische Erinnerungsmedaille an den Kreuzzug gegen den Kommunismus
- Kroatischer Orden der Krone König Zvonimirs / Orden vom Eisernen Dreiblatt, Großkreuz mit Schwertern **
- Königlich Ungarischer Verdienstorden, Großkreuz
- Kaiserlich Osmanischer Osmanje-Orden 4.Klasse

* Grand Cross with Swords of something. Since it has swords, a wartime award of a German ally, but I am not sure which.

** Both the Kruna kralja Zvonimira and the Željezni trolist had the same war ribbon. I have no idea which Schuster was awarded.

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Re: Admiral Karlgeorg Schuster Ribbon Bar?

Post by Kriegsmarine Großadmiral » 12 Nov 2017 10:45

Thanks Dave.
I think the first one is the Italienische Orden vom römischen Adler (although which class? it can be the Goldenes or Silbernes Großkreuz).
Regarding the Orden der Krone König Zvonimirs, I think it is that indeed, because it was a more common foreign decoration opposed to the Orden vom Eisernen Dreiblatt.
And finally, are you sure about the 2nd to last ribbon being the Ungarischer Verdienstorden? The ribbon of the Ungarischer Verdienstorden military class is red? Check photo below. Could this one be the Ritterorden der hl. Mauritius und Lazarus (green ribbon, look at the photo below).
I agree with the rest, thank you.
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Re: Admiral Karlgeorg Schuster Ribbon Bar?

Post by Dave Danner » 12 Nov 2017 11:52

The difference between the Merit Order ribbons is not civilian versus military, but rather the statute ribbon versus the war ribbon. The statute ribbon is green. Schuster received the order on the statute ribbon.

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Re: Admiral Karlgeorg Schuster Ribbon Bar?

Post by Kriegsmarine Großadmiral » 12 Nov 2017 13:39

Ok, thank you.
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Re: Admiral Karlgeorg Schuster Ribbon Bar?

Post by Kriegsmarine Großadmiral » 10 Aug 2022 22:23

Can anyone confirm if Schuster had the Hamburgisches Hanseatenkreuz? I know someone mentioned that the 4th ribbon on his ribbon bar looked like the Hamburgisches Hanseatenkreuz (see the photo below). However, only the Lübeckisches Hanseatenkreuz is listed for him in the various Rangliste. Can we then add the Hamburgisches Hanseatenkreuz to his list based on his ribbon bar, or is it some other award?
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Re: Admiral Karlgeorg Schuster Ribbon Bar?

Post by graveland » 15 Aug 2022 14:11

Kriegsmarine Großadmiral wrote:
10 Aug 2022 22:23
Can anyone confirm if Schuster had the Hamburgisches Hanseatenkreuz? I know someone mentioned that the 4th ribbon on his ribbon bar looked like the Hamburgisches Hanseatenkreuz (see the photo below). However, only the Lübeckisches Hanseatenkreuz is listed for him in the various Rangliste. Can we then add the Hamburgisches Hanseatenkreuz to his list based on his ribbon bar, or is it some other award?
Thanks
It could be the Kaiserlich Osmanischer Osmanje-Orden 4.Klasse too.

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Re: Admiral Karlgeorg Schuster Ribbon Bar?

Post by Kriegsmarine Großadmiral » 15 Aug 2022 14:41

graveland wrote:
15 Aug 2022 14:11
Kriegsmarine Großadmiral wrote:
10 Aug 2022 22:23
Can anyone confirm if Schuster had the Hamburgisches Hanseatenkreuz? I know someone mentioned that the 4th ribbon on his ribbon bar looked like the Hamburgisches Hanseatenkreuz (see the photo below). However, only the Lübeckisches Hanseatenkreuz is listed for him in the various Rangliste. Can we then add the Hamburgisches Hanseatenkreuz to his list based on his ribbon bar, or is it some other award?
Thanks
It could be the Kaiserlich Osmanischer Osmanje-Orden 4.Klasse too.
Not in that position on the ribbon bar. Foreign awards were always at the end of the bar (after German decorations).
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Re: Admiral Karlgeorg Schuster Ribbon Bar?

Post by Kriegsmarine Großadmiral » 15 Aug 2022 14:48

This is the only decent photo of his medal bar I was able to find. I can see the Lübeckisches Hanseatenkreuz clearly. But not the medal after it... It's either the Ehrenkreuz des Weltkrieges 1914/1918 mit Schwertern für Frontkämpfer or something else before it?
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Re: Admiral Karlgeorg Schuster Ribbon Bar?

Post by graveland » 15 Aug 2022 15:38

Kriegsmarine Großadmiral wrote:
15 Aug 2022 14:41
graveland wrote:
15 Aug 2022 14:11
Kriegsmarine Großadmiral wrote:
10 Aug 2022 22:23
Can anyone confirm if Schuster had the Hamburgisches Hanseatenkreuz? I know someone mentioned that the 4th ribbon on his ribbon bar looked like the Hamburgisches Hanseatenkreuz (see the photo below). However, only the Lübeckisches Hanseatenkreuz is listed for him in the various Rangliste. Can we then add the Hamburgisches Hanseatenkreuz to his list based on his ribbon bar, or is it some other award?
Thanks
It could be the Kaiserlich Osmanischer Osmanje-Orden 4.Klasse too.
Not in that position on the ribbon bar. Foreign awards were always at the end of the bar (after German decorations).
Not always. And I could post many examples.

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Re: Admiral Karlgeorg Schuster Ribbon Bar?

Post by graveland » 15 Aug 2022 15:46

Kriegsmarine Großadmiral wrote:
15 Aug 2022 14:48
This is the only decent photo of his medal bar I was able to find. I can see the Lübeckisches Hanseatenkreuz clearly. But not the medal after it... It's either the Ehrenkreuz des Weltkrieges 1914/1918 mit Schwertern für Frontkämpfer or something else before it?
...
Lübeckisches Hanseatenkreuz
Ehrenkreuz für Frontkämpfer
Wehrmacht (Kriegsmarine) Dienstauszeichnung 1. Klasse
Wehrmacht (Kriegsmarine) Dienstauszeichnung 3. Klasse
Kaiserlich Osmanischer Osmanje-Orden 4.Klasse

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Re: Admiral Karlgeorg Schuster Ribbon Bar?

Post by luftk » 15 Aug 2022 22:52

graveland wrote:
15 Aug 2022 15:46
Kriegsmarine Großadmiral wrote:
15 Aug 2022 14:48
...
Lübeckisches Hanseatenkreuz
Ehrenkreuz für Frontkämpfer
Wehrmacht (Kriegsmarine) Dienstauszeichnung 1. Klasse
Wehrmacht (Kriegsmarine) Dienstauszeichnung 3. Klasse
Kaiserlich Osmanischer Osmanje-Orden 4.Klasse
Agree.

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