Generalmajor Josef Dahme (1894-1978)

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Generalmajor Josef Dahme (1894-1978)

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Post by askropp » 20 Jan 2018, 16:24

Is there anybody who can produce evidence based on primary sources that Dahme was a GM? He is listed as such in Keilig and Bradley, but he is not in the Generalskartei. His alleged RDA being 30.01.1945, there should have been ample time to add him. It is true that Dahme was eligible for a regular promotion in February 1945, but not everyone eligible really got one and Dahme had been in the FR for months. I believe it is evident that Dahme did NOT get a regular promotion, because he ranked between Johann Simmler and Helmut Hipp as an Oberst. Simmler became GM mit RDA vom 30.01.1945 (7) and Hipp was the (8). No Dahme there! The question arises, if Dahme did not get a regular promotion when it was his turn, why should he have gotten a backdated one, especially as he remained in the FR and was an obscure Nachschub officer to begin with? The only reasonable possibility I can think of would have been that he was somehow looked over and it was only later discovered it had been his turn. Any input on the subject?
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Post by askropp » 07 Jul 2019, 16:15

According to this card from T-78 R-917, Dahme was still an Oberst in March 1945.

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Post by graveland » 07 Jul 2019, 16:27

Thanks, askropp.

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Generalmajor Josef Dahme (1894-1978)

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Post by askropp » 28 Mar 2020, 23:11

Zounds! Here is the proof I was looking for so long! And it was always there in the unit Kartei. I just didn't notice it because this is such an obscure command. Never heard of it ...

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Post by graveland » 12 Jul 2021, 13:01

Thank you again, askropp.

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Post by Dave Danner » 13 Feb 2022, 11:14

Further to askropps's research above, here is a brief evaluation of his consideration for an infantry command and promotability. Also, below, a revised and updated bio to hopefully improve on what is available elsewhere.
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Dahme, Josef
*24.06.1894 in Müschede, Kreis Arnsberg, Provinz Westfalen
†24.01.1978 in Icking, Bayern

Vater: Josef Dahme
Mutter: Maria, geb. Jungesbluth
verheiratet, 3 Söhne

Beförderungen:
18.03.1915 Leutnant der Reserve
06.07.1918 Patent vom 24.10.1913 erhalten
06.07.1920 Charakter als Oberleutnant der Reserve a.D.
01.12.1920 Polizei-Oberleutnant
01.07.1927 Polizei-Hauptmann
01.08.1935 Hauptmann mit RDA vom 01.02.1932 (10b)
01.03.1936 Major (74)
01.06.1939 Oberstleutnant
01.02.1941 Oberst (26a)
30.01.1945 Generalmajor

Dienstlaufbahn:
23.10.1914 als Kriegsfreiwilliger in das Königlich bayerische 22. Infanterie-Regiment eingetreten
11.01.1915 ins Feld
29.07.1915 verwundet
30.09.1915 dem I. Ersatz-Bataillon des 22. Infanterie-Regiments überwiesen
16.10.1915 dem II. Ersatz-Bataillon des 22. Infanterie-Regiments überwiesen
03.03.1916 ins Feld zum 22. Infanterie-Regiment
23.03.1916 zum Königlich bayerischen 3. Infanterie-Regiment kommandiert
11.04.1916 ins Lazarett wegen Verschüttung
27.04.1916 dem I. Ersatz-Bataillon des 22. Infanterie-Regiments überwiesen
30.05.1916 dem II. Ersatz-Bataillon des 22. Infanterie-Regiments überwiesen
01.08.1916 zur 3. Ersatz-M.G.-Kompanie Hammelburg kommandiert (bis 05.10.1916)
14.10.1916 dem Königlich bayerischen Landwehr-Infanterie-Regiment Nr. 4 zugeteilt
26.06.1917 zur M.G.-Verfügungstruppe der Armee-Abteilung A kommandiert
06.08.1917 zur Flieger-Ersatz-Abteilung Schleißheim kommandiert
14.10.1917 in die Flieger-Ersatz-Abteilung Schleißheim versetzt
26.01.1918 zum Armee-Flugpark A versetzt
13.02.1918 zur Flieger-Abteilung Artillerie 199 b kommandiert
14.02.1918 in die Flieger-Abteilung Artillerie 199 b versetzt
21.12.1918 entlassen
21.06.1919 in das Wehrregiment München eingetreten
01.10.1919 in die Polizeiwehr München versetzt
23.09.1920 zur Landespolizei München
16.12.1920 zur Landespolizei Bamberg
01.12.1928 zur Landespolizei München-Land
01.02.1930 zur Schutzpolizei München
01.08.1935 als Hauptmann in der Kraftfahr-Abteilung 7 dem Heer überwiesen
01.10.1936 Kommandeur der Kraftfahr-Abteilung 10
26.08.1939 Führer des Kraftwagen-Transport-Regiments 602
01.12.1940 Lehrgangsleiter an der Fahrtruppenschule Hannover
27.04.1941 Kommandeur der Versorgungsbasis Nord
10.05.1941 Armee-Nachschubführer 551
01.04.1942 Höherer Nachschubführer 2
10.09.1942 Heeresgruppen-Nachschubführer 2 (Umbenennung)
14.10.1942 Höherer Kommandeur der Nachschubtruppen 2 (Umbenennung)
10.05.1944 Höherer Kommandeur der Nachschubtruppen 6
xx.10.1944 Führerreserve OKH (VII)
21.10.1944 mit d. 10.11.1944 Führerreserve des Oberbefehlshabers West (zur Einarbeitung als Regiments-Füherer eines Grenadier-Regiments)
03.02.1945 Führerreserve OKH/West
13.03.1945 in den Bereich der Nachschubtruppe zurückversetzt
10.04.1945 Kommandeur des Höheren Wehrmachts-Umschlagsstabes Hamburg

Auszeichnungen:
12.06.1915 1914 Eisernes Kreuz 2. Klasse
25.05.1916 Königlich Bayerischer Militär-Verdienstorden, 4. Klasse mit Schwertern
05.05.1918 Beobachterabzeichen
09.09.1918 1914 Eisernes Kreuz 1. Klasse
xx.xx.19xx Verwundetenabzeichen in schwarz
xx.xx.193x Ehrenkreuz für Frontkämpfer
02.10.1936 Wehrmacht (Heer) Dienstauszeichnung 4. bis 2. Klasse
04.10.1939 1939 Spange zum Eisernen Kreuze 2. Klasse
25.10.1941 Kriegsverdienstkreuz 1. und 2. Klasse mit Schwertern
22.10.1943 Deutsches Kreuz in Silber
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Re: Generalmajor Josef Dahme (1894-1978)

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Post by graveland » 13 Feb 2022, 12:53

Thank you, Dave.

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Post by Rossano » 13 Feb 2022, 15:24

Thanks for all.......
Pls. kindly check the above data :
04.41 : it should be a later date than 05.41 of the line before
Also, it should probably read Vers."Bezirk" Nord

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Post by Dave Danner » 13 Feb 2022, 15:53

They were in the wrong order. Fixed.

Versorgungsbasis Nord is correct.

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Post by Rossano » 13 Feb 2022, 19:32

Dear Dave
Sorry but that Data is wrong. As my data differs from Yours I checked PV./HPA and thanks to my name registers I found him twice as follows :
ab 26.4.41 : Nachsch.Fü. 551
bis 1.4.42 : Kdr. Vers.Bez. Nord
thus confirming my data
Unfortunately the date in PV. when he changed from Fü.551 to Bez. Nord is missing
Finally PV. confirmed that it was Vers."Bezirk" Nord but Tessin confirms that it was also named "Basis", so OK.
Rgds., Rossano

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Post by askropp » 14 Mar 2023, 19:42

The Nachschub officers Carl Jakwerth and Josef Dahme are interesting cases. Both standen zur planmäßigen Beförderung heran as it was their turn on 30 January 1945, they had I-Stellen and good Beurteilungen. Nevertheless, Burgdorf initially decided to postpone their promotions for three months to 20 April. The reasoning was "nur Nachschubeinheiten geführt" for Jakwerth and "Regimentsführerlehrgang" for Dahme. Well, Dahme had been placed in the FR and sent to the RFL to make him fit for a divisional command, and now it was used against him (just as P1/3 had warned). And, as had also been noted, he did not even have to switch to a frontline unit to qualify for a promotion (same was true for Jakwerth). Sounds like the usual bias against Etappenhengste ... but someone managed to change Burgdorf's mind.

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Post by graveland » 14 Mar 2023, 20:16

Danke, askropp.

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Post by kstdk » 15 Mar 2023, 02:33

Hello

His picture from BAMA/Invenio PERS 6/1165

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Post by graveland » 15 Mar 2023, 14:56

Thank you, Kurt.

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