Database of Kriegsmarine Admirals

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Re: Vizeadmiral Georg Reimer (1888-1974)

Post by graveland » 25 Feb 2024 23:03

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Do you agree we delete the Kolonialabzeichen (Elefantenorden) from Reimer's award list?
Yes, I do.

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Re: Database of Kriegsmarine Admirals

Post by Requin Marteau » 26 Feb 2024 10:12

Name of classes of Swedish orders.
Are you sure you want to change the names?
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Re: Database of Kriegsmarine Admirals

Post by Kriegsmarine Großadmiral » 26 Feb 2024 10:37

Requin Marteau wrote:
26 Feb 2024 10:12
Name of classes of Swedish orders.
Are you sure you want to change the names?
Check the links I posted. This is the official website of the Swedish Royal Orders of Knighthood.
https://kungligmajestatsorden.se/englis ... -the-sword
https://kungligmajestatsorden.se/englis ... er-of-vasa

I will check with an expert on Swedish decorations also, just to be sure.

Can you post the photos from this book for the III Period for both orders? From 1975 onwards. Perhaps the names were changed in 1975.

P.S. Please read the two messages I sent you.
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Database of Kriegsmarine Admirals

Post by Requin Marteau » 26 Feb 2024 14:16

Sorry but the book deals with decorations until 1945. The names of the orders may have been modified in 1975, but at the time of the attributions, these are the names which are referenced.
And the class for Marschall is Kommandeurkreuz 2. kl (Cf the link : https://books.google.fr/books?id=rPQwAQ ... 40&f=false and https://gupea.ub.gu.se/handle/2077/64335?show=full)

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Re: Database of Kriegsmarine Admirals

Post by Kriegsmarine Großadmiral » 26 Feb 2024 19:35

Requin Marteau wrote:
26 Feb 2024 14:16
Sorry but the book deals with decorations until 1945. The names of the orders may have been modified in 1975, but at the time of the attributions, these are the names which are referenced.
And the class for Marschall is Kommandeurkreuz 2. kl (Cf the link : https://books.google.fr/books?id=rPQwAQ ... 40&f=false and https://gupea.ub.gu.se/handle/2077/64335?show=full)
Can you post the photos from the book about the Königlich Norwegischer Orden des heiligen Olav?
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Re: Database of Kriegsmarine Admirals

Post by Kriegsmarine Großadmiral » 26 Feb 2024 23:13

Requin Marteau wrote:
26 Feb 2024 10:12
Name of classes of Swedish orders.
Are you sure you want to change the names?
I consulted the Swedish expert. He said the names of the classes in the Swedish award rolls indeed contain the "II. Klasse" part for both the Kommandeurkreuz and Ritterkreuz.
The same applies to the Königlich Norwegischer Orden des heiligen Olav until 1935, when the class "Kommandeurkreuz I. Klasse" was renamed to "Kommandeurkreuz mit Stern". I should think the "Kommandeurkreuz II. Klasse" then became just the "Kommandeurkreuz", but I have no proof.

So, I was wrong. I will ask askropp to revert the changes I made on the previous page.
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Re: Database of Kriegsmarine Admirals

Post by AshenSocks » 27 Feb 2024 14:11

Generalarzt der Marine a.D.
Dr. Tietmeyer
Inspekteur der DRK - Landesstelle VI, Muenster / Westfalen

549735191 - Generalarzt der Marine a.D. Dr. Tietmeyer.jpg

I think this Photo's Category is here..

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Re: Database of Kriegsmarine Admirals

Post by Kriegsmarine Großadmiral » 27 Feb 2024 14:20

AshenSocks wrote:
27 Feb 2024 14:11
Generalarzt der Marine a.D.
Dr. Tietmeyer
Inspekteur der DRK - Landesstelle VI, Muenster / Westfalen


549735191 - Generalarzt der Marine a.D. Dr. Tietmeyer.jpg


I think this Photo's Category is here..

Ashen.
Hello Ashen,

Actually, this photo does not belong here. The rank of Marine-Generalarzt was equivalent to the rank of Kapitän zur See or Flottenarzt.
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Re: Database of Kriegsmarine Admirals

Post by AshenSocks » 27 Feb 2024 14:35

Kriegsmarine Großadmiral wrote:
27 Feb 2024 14:20
AshenSocks wrote:
27 Feb 2024 14:11
Generalarzt der Marine a.D.
Dr. Tietmeyer
The rank of Marine-Generalarzt was equivalent to the rank of Kapitän zur See or Flottenarzt.
This is new info to me.

Thank you, Kriegsmarine Großadmiral.

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Re: Konteradmiral Walther Oehler (1888-1968)

Post by Kriegsmarine Großadmiral » 27 Feb 2024 19:40

askropp, please update Oehler's awards. Just copy-paste the list below. I highlighted the changes in blue but you can keep the text black.
Also, delete all the text at the bottom of his award list.


Konteradmiral Walther Oehler (1888-1968) viewtopic.php?f=5&t=239341&p=2189410&hi ... r#p2189410

-Deutsches Kreuz in Gold am 28.01.1944 als Konteradmiral und Kommandeur der II. Marine-Flak-Brigade
-Eisernes Kreuz (1914) II. Klasse
-Eisernes Kreuz (1914) I. Klasse
-Kolonialabzeichen (Elefantenorden)
-Ehrenkreuz des Weltkrieges 1914/1918 mit Schwertern für Frontkämpfer (30. 01. 1935)
-Wehrmacht Dienstauszeichnungen IV. bis III. Klasse (02. 10. 1936)
-Wehrmacht Dienstauszeichnung II. Klasse
-Spange (1939) zum Eisernen Kreuz II. Klasse (23. 12. 1939)
-Spange (1939) zum Eisernen Kreuz I. Klasse (31. 07. 1940)
-Kommandeurkreuz II. Klasse des Königlich Schwedischen Schwertordens (22. 10. 1940, Awarded on 05. 11. 1940, Approved on 12. 03. 1941)
-Kriegsabzeichen für die Marineartillerie (20. 04. 1942)
-Verwundetenabzeichen (1939) in Schwarz (25. 05. 1944)

Please also add this new photo, courtesy of Gregg (which is also the photographic evidence for the Kolonialabzeichen):
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Re: Vizeadmiral Georg Reimer (1888-1974)

Post by Kriegsmarine Großadmiral » 27 Feb 2024 19:46

Vizeadmiral Georg Reimer (1888-1974) viewtopic.php?f=5&t=239341&p=2183207&hi ... r#p2183207

askropp, for Georg Reimer:

Please delete the Kolonialabzeichen (Elefantenorden) from his award list.
And also delete all the text at the bottom.
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Konteradmiral Oswald Paul (1883-1949)

Post by Kriegsmarine Großadmiral » 28 Feb 2024 13:49

Konteradmiral Oswald Paul (1883-1949)

1st photo below:

Left column:
- Eisernes Kreuz (1914) II. Klasse (23. 12. 1914)
- Eisernes Kreuz (1914) I. Klasse (31. 05. 1917)
- Königlich Preußisches Dienstauszeichnungskreuz

Right column:
- Hamburgisches Hanseatenkreuz (31. 05. 1916)

2nd photo below:

- Kriegsverdienstkreuz (1939) II. Klasse mit Schwertern (20. 11. 1940)
- Kriegsverdienstkreuz (1939) I. Klasse mit Schwertern (30. 01. 1943)

3rd photo below:

Left column:
- Eisernes Kreuz (1914) II. Klasse (23. 12. 1914)
- Eisernes Kreuz (1914) I. Klasse (31. 05. 1917)
- Königlich Preußisches Dienstauszeichnungskreuz
- Kriegsverdienstkreuz (1939) II. Klasse mit Schwertern (20. 11. 1940)
- Frontkämpferkreuz mit Schwertern für Krieg 14/18

Right column:
- Hamburgisches Hanseatenkreuz
- St. Alexander Orden IV. Klasse von Bulgarien (24. 08. 1936) (this is the Offizierkreuz class)
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Re: Konteradmiral Oswald Paul (1883-1949)

Post by Kriegsmarine Großadmiral » 28 Feb 2024 18:00

askropp, please update Paul's awards. Just copy-paste the list below. I highlighted the changes in blue but you can keep the text black.

Konteradmiral Oswald Paul (1883-1949) viewtopic.php?f=5&t=239341&p=2189461&hi ... l#p2189461

-Eisernes Kreuz (1914) II. Klasse (23. 12. 1914)
-Eisernes Kreuz (1914) I. Klasse (31. 05. 1917)
-Hamburgisches Hanseatenkreuz (31. 05. 1916)
-Königlich Preußisches Dienstauszeichnungskreuz
-Ehrenkreuz des Weltkrieges 1914/1918 mit Schwertern für Frontkämpfer
-Offizierkreuz des Königlich Bulgarischen St. Alexander-Ordens (24. 08. 1936)
-Wehrmacht Dienstauszeichnungen IV. bis I. Klasse (02. 10. 1936)
-Kriegsverdienstkreuz (1939) II. Klasse mit Schwertern (20. 11. 1940)
-Kriegsverdienstkreuz (1939) I. Klasse mit Schwertern (30. 01. 1943)

Please also replace the photo that is currently posted with this one that's in better quality:
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Konteradmiral (Ing.) Max Peters (1888-1961)

Post by Kriegsmarine Großadmiral » 29 Feb 2024 12:35

Konteradmiral (Ing.) Max Peters (1888-1961)

1st photo below:

- Eisernes Kreuz (1914) II. Klasse (17. 04. 1915)
- Türkischer Eiserner Halbmond (24. 04. 1916)
- Königlich Preußisches Dienstauszeichnung III. Klasse (18. 04. 1915)
- Königlich Preußisches Dienstauszeichnung I. Klasse (25. 06. 1921)
- Ehren-und Erinnerungsmedaille des Marinekorps Flandern (15. 10. 1922) (it is written incorrectly "medaille", it should be "kreuz")
- Eisernes Kreuz (1914) I. Klasse (19. 05. 1924)
- Ehrenkreuz für Frontkämpfer (10. 02. 1935)
- Wehrmacht Dienstauszeichnungen IV., III., II. und I. Klasse (02. 10. 1936)
- Österreichische Kriegsmedaille (01. 04. 1939)
- Bulgarische Kriegsmedaille (01. 04. 1939)
- Ungarische Kriegsmedaille (01. 04. 1939)
- Kriegsverdienstkreuz (1939) II. Klasse mit Schwertern (21. 01. 1941) (this award date is wrong. The 2nd document below and also the award document we have (4th photo below) give the correct award date: "09. 01. 1941")

2nd photo below:

Left column:
- Eisernes Kreuz (1914) II. Klasse (17. 04. 1915)
- Königlich Preußisches Dienstauszeichnung III. Klasse (18. 04. 1915)
- Königlich Preußisches Dienstauszeichnung I. Klasse (25. 06. 1921)
- Ehren-und Erinnerungsmedaille des Marinekorps Flandern (15. 10. 1922)
- Eisernes Kreuz (1914) I. Klasse (19. 15. 1924) (the month obviously can't be "15.". It's "05." like it says in the 1st document)

Right column:
- Türkischer Eiserner Halbmond (24. 04. 1916)
- Ehrenkreuz für Frontkämpfer (10. 02. 1935)
- Wehrmacht Dienstauszeichnungen IV., III., II. und I. Klasse (02. 10. 1936)
- Kriegsverdienstkreuz (1939) II. Klasse mit Schwertern (09. 01. 1941)
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Re: Konteradmiral (Ing.) Max Peters (1888-1961)

Post by Kriegsmarine Großadmiral » 29 Feb 2024 16:27

askropp, please update Peters' awards. Just copy-paste the list below. I highlighted the changes in blue but you can keep the text black.
Also, delete all the text at the bottom of his award list.


Konteradmiral (Ing.) Max Peters (1888-1961) viewtopic.php?f=5&t=239341&p=2189573&hi ... s#p2189573

-Eisernes Kreuz (1914) II. Klasse (17. 04. 1915)
-Eisernes Kreuz (1914) I. Klasse (19. 05. 1924)
-Königlich Preußisches Dienstauszeichnung III. Klasse (18. 04. 1915)
-Großherrlich Osmanische Kriegsmedaille (Eiserner Halbmond) (24. 04. 1916)
-Königlich Preußisches Dienstauszeichnung I. Klasse (25. 06. 1921)
-Ehren-und Erinnerungskreuz des Marinekorps Flandern (15. 10. 1922)
-Ehrenkreuz des Weltkrieges 1914/1918 mit Schwertern für Frontkämpfer (10. 02. 1935)
-Wehrmacht Dienstauszeichnungen IV. bis I. Klasse (02. 10. 1936)
-Österreichische Kriegserinnerungsmedaille 1914/1918 mit Schwertern (01. 04. 1939)
-Königlich Bulgarische Kriegserinnerungsmedaille 1915/1918 mit Schwertern (01. 04. 1939)
-Königlich Ungarische Weltkriegserinnerungsmedaille 1914/1918 mit Schwertern und Helm (01. 04. 1939)
-Kriegsverdienstkreuz (1939) II. Klasse mit Schwertern (09. 01. 1941)
-Kriegsverdienstkreuz (1939) I. Klasse mit Schwertern (20. 04. 1944)

Please also delete all five photos currently posted and replace them with these new photos:
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