Database of Kriegsmarine Admirals

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Re: Admiral Richard Foerster (1879-1952)

Post by Kriegsmarine Großadmiral » 27 Apr 2019 17:01

New photographic evidence for Admiral Richard Foerster. See here: viewtopic.php?f=5&t=231095&p=2201971&hi ... r#p2201971

Moderators, please add: viewtopic.php?f=5&t=239341&p=2179400&hi ... r#p2179400
-Großkreuz des Königlich Ungarischen Verdienstordens (at the bottom)
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Re: Vizeadmiral (Ing.) Ernst Stieringer (1891-1975)

Post by Kriegsmarine Großadmiral » 27 Apr 2019 20:29

Update on Vizeadmiral (Ing.) Ernst Stieringer! viewtopic.php?f=5&t=239341&p=2184383&hi ... r#p2184383

Thanks to new photographic evidence, moderators please add:
-Schlesischer Adler-Orden I. Stufe (below the II. Stufe)

You can also add the new photo for him (see below). Also keep the photo description I wrote.
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Re: Konteradmiral Werner Ehrhardt (1898-1967)

Post by Kriegsmarine Großadmiral » 01 May 2019 23:09

We have a new photo of Konteradmiral Werner Ehrhardt which confirms the Spanienkreuz ohne Schwerter. However, I am not sure which class it is, Bronze or Silber? Gregg and I vote for Bronze. Please share your opinions.

Moderators, please delete the following part of the text for Ehrhardt: viewtopic.php?f=5&t=239341&p=2186385&hi ... t#p2186385
"On his right side of the chest a badge award is visible (on the better quality photo in the book). Again, I think it's the Spanienkreuz. Ehrhardt served as the Navigation-Officer on the Armoured-Ship ‘Admiral Graf Spee’ (30 Nov 1936-31 Oct 1938) during the Spanish Civil War. That ship conducted non-intervention patrols and that's why my guess is the Spanienkreuz ohne Schwerter (but it's just a speculation becuase the photo doesn't reveal more)."

Don't delete the little *

And replace it with this text:
The class of his Spanienkreuz is unknown. It could be Bronze or Silber. (with these words in blue colour)

Leave the 2nd part of the text as it was.

You can also add the new photo of him.

Thanks!

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Re: Database of Kriegsmarine Admirals

Post by graveland » 05 May 2019 15:28

Vizeadmiral Leopold Bürkner

Please add: Kommandeurkreuz des Königl. Ordens des Stern von Rumänien mit Schwertern am Tapferkeitsbande der militärischen Tugend: 07.11.1941
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Admiral z.V. Otto Feige

Please add: Kommandeurkreuz des Königl. Ordens der Krone von Rumänien mit Schwertern: 03.03.1943
viewtopic.php?f=5&t=239341&p=2179179&hi ... e#p2179179

Konteradmiral Friedrich Traugott Schmidt

Please add: Reiterabzeichen; Kriegsverdienstkreuz 2. und 1. Klasse mit Schwertern
viewtopic.php?f=5&t=239341&p=2190577&hi ... t#p2190577

And a couple of photos (in the second one with Dönitz & August Thiele)
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Re: Bürkner, Feige, Traugott Schmidt

Post by Kriegsmarine Großadmiral » 05 May 2019 19:16

Thank you very much Gregg! :)

Moderators, please update the award lists like this:

For Vizeadmiral Leopold Bürkner viewtopic.php?f=5&t=239341&p=2181077&hi ... r#p2181077

Update the -Kommandeurkreuz des Königlichen Ordens des Sterns von Rumänien mit Schwertern like this:

-Kommandeurkreuz des Königlichen Ordens des Sterns von Rumänien mit Schwertern am Tapferkeitsbande der Militärischen Tugend (07. 11. 1941) (and move it above the Finnischer Orden des Freiheitskreuzes I. Klasse mit Schwertern to be chronologically correct)

For Admiral z.V. Otto Feige viewtopic.php?f=5&t=239341&p=2179179&hi ... e#p2179179

Add: -Kommandeurkreuz des Königlichen Ordens der Krone von Rumänien mit Schwertern (03. 03. 1943) (at the bottom)

For Konteradmiral Friedrich Traugott Schmidt viewtopic.php?f=5&t=239341&p=2190577&hi ... t#p2190577

Add:
-Kriegsverdienstkreuz (1939) II. Klasse mit Schwertern
-Kriegsverdienstkreuz (1939) I. Klasse mit Schwertern
(below the Wehrmacht-Dienstauszeichnung IV. bis II. Klasse)

and -Deutsches Reiterabzeichen (Class unknown) (at the bottom) You can write the "Class unknown" in red colour like this.

You can also add the new photos Gregg posted for him and delete the last sentence: "I also don't know if he was awarded the Spange zum EK II and the 1939 EK I."

And since he is not wearing the Flottenkriegsabzeichen on these new photos, I think you should delete it from his list. It was just speculation on my part in the first place. If some new evidence surfaces I will update his awards list.
So, delete "-Flottenkriegsabzeichen (not confirmed) *" part and also all the text after the *.

Thanks!

The source for Bürkner and Feige is the Monitorul Oficial, Official Newspaper of the Romanian Government. See below.
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Re: Vizeadmiral Ernst Schirlitz (1893-1978)

Post by Kriegsmarine Großadmiral » 10 May 2019 20:42

A quick update on Vizeadmiral Ernst Schirlitz viewtopic.php?f=5&t=239341&p=2184128&hi ... z#p2184128

He did NOT receive the Hamburger Hanseatenkreuz. It is not listed in the Rangliste or the the book "Die Ritterkreuzträger der Überwasserstreitkräfte der Kriegsmarine" by Manfred Dörr. Secondly, on his photos, a 4-place ribbon bar is visible: EK II, Ehrenkreuz and the Wehrmacht DA.

So, moderators, please delete the Hamburger Hanseatenkreuz for him and also all the text after the *.

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Re: Database of Kriegsmarine Admirals

Post by Nicolas7507 » 20 May 2019 14:48

Nice picture of Vizeadmiral Ralf von der Marwitz
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Re: Database of Kriegsmarine Admirals

Post by Kriegsmarine Großadmiral » 20 May 2019 16:13

Thank you for the great photo Nicolas! :D
Moderators, you can add it for Marwitz. viewtopic.php?f=5&t=239341&p=2182874&hi ... z#p2182874
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Re: Database of Kriegsmarine Admirals

Post by Nicolas7507 » 20 May 2019 17:36

Cheers! Please add for Char. Konteradmiral Wilhelm Wilke
-Königlich Preußische Rote Kreuz-Medaille III. Klasse
-China-Denkmünze in Bronze

The photo features his awards.
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Re: Database of Kriegsmarine Admirals

Post by Kriegsmarine Großadmiral » 20 May 2019 19:27

Thank you Nicolas! May I ask what is the source for this photo? Cheers
By the way, keep these updates coming, I am glad you are helping me with this!
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Re: Database of Kriegsmarine Admirals

Post by Nicolas7507 » 20 May 2019 22:07

The source is one of Andreas Thies Auctions. I cannot remember the exact number right now.
Thanks, I am glad, that I can help. Your Database is outstanding.

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Re: Wilhelm Wilke, Paul Wever

Post by Kriegsmarine Großadmiral » 20 May 2019 22:36

Thanks to Nicolas we can update the awards for Char. Konteradmiral Wilhelm Wilke viewtopic.php?f=5&t=239341&p=2192135&hi ... e#p2192135
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-Königlich Preußische Rote Kreuz-Medaille III. Klasse
-China-Denkmünze in Bronze

You can add both of these awards below the Königlich Preußische Kaiser Wilhelm-Centenarmedaille 1897.
You can also add the photo of his awards Nicolas posted.

I have a further update on Vizeadmiral Paul Wever viewtopic.php?f=5&t=239341&p=2184972&hi ... r#p2184972
Thanks to new documentary evidence (see below), we can:

update the date of his U-Bootskriegsabzeichen (1918) to (03. 03. 1919), see first photo below. So please write the award like this: U-Bootskriegsabzeichen (1918) (03. 03. 1919)
I think the first date mentioned in the document (03. 03. 1919) is the award date, and the second one (13. 08. 1919) is the date when the document was enacted?

and also, please add:
-Spanienkreuz in Silber ohne Schwerter (06. 06. 1939), see second photo below. Add this award below the Wehrmacht-Dienstauszeichnung IV. bis I. Klasse.
The document doesn't specifically say his Spanienkreuz was "ohne Schwerter", but I think if it was the version "mit Schwertern", the document would say so. Please do correct me if I'm wrong.

Thanks!
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Re: Char. Konteradmiral Wilhelm Wilke (1878-1963)

Post by Kriegsmarine Großadmiral » 21 May 2019 11:15

I just noticed something else about Wilke's awards.
The longer ribbon bar has the Spange "Vor dem Feinde" mounted on the ribbon of the Oldenburgisches Friedrich August-Kreuz II. Klasse.
Can we then assume he had the Spange even though it is not mounted on his medal bar?
Please share your opinions.
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Re: Char. Konteradmiral Wilhelm Wilke (1878-1963)

Post by luftk » 23 May 2019 19:05

Kriegsmarine Großadmiral wrote:
21 May 2019 11:15
I just noticed something else about Wilke's awards.
The longer ribbon bar has the Spange "Vor dem Feinde" mounted on the ribbon of the Oldenburgisches Friedrich August-Kreuz II. Klasse.
Can we then assume he had the Spange even though it is not mounted on his medal bar?
Please share your opinions.
Thanks
Yes I think it would be safe to assume he had it if it is on his ribbon bar. Perhaps he just chose not to mount it on the medal bar.

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Re: Char. Konteradmiral Wilhelm Wilke (1878-1963)

Post by Kriegsmarine Großadmiral » 23 May 2019 19:12

Thanks luftk.

Moderators, for Wilhelm Wilke
viewtopic.php?f=5&t=239341&p=2192135&hi ... e#p2192135

Please add:
mit Spange "Vor dem Feinde" after his Großherzoglich Oldenburgisches Friedrich August-Kreuz II. Klasse.

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