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Konteradmiral z.V. Waldemar Bender (1885-1950)

Post by Kriegsmarine Großadmiral » 03 Dec 2023 20:03

Konteradmiral z.V. Waldemar Bender (1885-1950)

1st photo below:

- Eisernes Kreuz (1914) II. Klasse (18. 04. 1915)
- Eisernes Kreuz (1914) I. Klasse (06. 11. 1916)
- Hamburgisches Hanseatenkreuz (25. 11. 1916)
- U-Bootskriegsabzeichen (07. 06. 1918)
- Ehrenkreuz für Frontkämpfer (29. 10. 1934)

1. Beneder is another curious case when the Wehrmacht DA is in question. In the 2nd photo below it's clearly visible he is wearing the WDA. However, I have no idea when he received them. He retired on 30 September 1935 and wasn't activated again until 01 March 1941. He most likely received them on 02 October 1936 like everyone else, even though he was at that point retired for over one year. However, I will not add this date to his award list, because I am not 100% sure.
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Re: Konteradmiral z.V. Waldemar Bender (1885-1950)

Post by Kriegsmarine Großadmiral » 04 Dec 2023 11:13

askropp, please update Bender's awards. Just copy-paste the list below. I highlighted the changes in blue but you can keep the text black.

Konteradmiral z.V. Waldemar Bender (1885-1950) viewtopic.php?f=5&t=239341&p=2185310&hi ... r#p2185310

-Eisernes Kreuz (1914) II. Klasse (18. 04. 1915)
-Eisernes Kreuz (1914) I. Klasse (06. 11. 1916)
-Hamburgisches Hanseatenkreuz (25. 11. 1916)
-U-Bootskriegsabzeichen (1918) (07. 06. 1918)
-Ehrenkreuz des Weltkrieges 1914/1918 mit Schwertern für Frontkämpfer (29. 10. 1934)
-Wehrmacht Dienstauszeichnung IV. bis I. Klasse
-Kriegsverdienstkreuz (1939) II. Klasse mit Schwertern
-Kriegsverdienstkreuz (1939) I. Klasse mit Schwertern
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Char. Vizeadmiral Max Looff (1874-1954)

Post by Kriegsmarine Großadmiral » 04 Dec 2023 16:20

The Personalakte of Max Looff has been digitized. I guess he received the Marineverwundetenabzeichen (1918) in Gold after all.

Char. Vizeadmiral Max Looff (1874-1954)

First column:
- Zentenarmedaille (22. 03. 1897)
- Königlich Preußische Rettungsmedaille am Bande (26. 11. 1900)
- China-Denkmünze in Bronze (10. 08. 1901)
- Königlich Preußischer Kronen-Orden IV. Klasse (08. 02. 1902)
- Band der Rettungsmedaille zum Kronen Orden IV. Klasse (26. 03. 1907)
- Königlich Preußischer Roter Adler-Orden IV. Klasse (16. 01. 1910)
- ?. Kreuz (13. 05. 1911) (what is the letter written before "Kreuz"?)
- Eisernes Kreuz (1914) II. Klasse (27. 09. 1915)
- Eisernes Kreuz (1914) I. Klasse (27. 09. 1915)
- Verwundetenabzeichen in Gold

Second column:
- Hamburgisches Hanseatenkreuz
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Re: Char. Vizeadmiral Max Looff (1874-1954)

Post by graveland » 04 Dec 2023 16:31

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Char. Vizeadmiral Max Looff (1874-1954)

First column:
- ?. Kreuz (13. 05. 1911) (what is the letter written before "Kreuz"?)
It is the letter D (Dienstauszeichnung).

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Re: Char. Vizeadmiral Max Looff (1874-1954)

Post by Kriegsmarine Großadmiral » 04 Dec 2023 16:36

graveland wrote:
04 Dec 2023 16:31
Kriegsmarine Großadmiral wrote:
04 Dec 2023 16:20
Char. Vizeadmiral Max Looff (1874-1954)

First column:
- ?. Kreuz (13. 05. 1911) (what is the letter written before "Kreuz"?)
It is the letter D (Dienstauszeichnung).
Yes, I agree. Thank you.
The Königlich Preußisches Dienstauszeichnungskreuz is listed for Looff in the 1912 Rangliste, but not in the 1911 Rangliste.
Which means he was indeed awarded this medal on 13. 05. 1911 like it says in the Personalakte.
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Re: Char. Vizeadmiral Max Looff (1874-1954)

Post by Kriegsmarine Großadmiral » 04 Dec 2023 23:32

askropp, please update Looff's awards. Just copy-paste the list below. I highlighted the changes in blue but you can keep the text black.

Char. Vizeadmiral Max Looff (1874-1954) viewtopic.php?f=5&t=239341&p=2182672&hi ... f#p2182672

-Eisernes Kreuz (1914) II. Klasse (27. 09. 1915)
-Eisernes Kreuz (1914) I. Klasse (27. 09. 1915)
-Königlich Preußische Kaiser Wilhelm-Erinnerungsmedaille (Zentenarmedaille) 1897 (22. 03. 1897)
-Königlich Preußische Rettungsmedaille am Bande (26. 11. 1900)
-China-Denkmünze in Bronze mit Spange „TAKU“, „OSTASIEN 1900/01“, „PEITANG-FORTS“ (10. 08. 1901)
-Königlich Preußischer Kronen-Orden IV. Klasse (08. 02. 1902)
-Königlich Preußischer Kronen-Orden IV. Klasse am Bande der Rettungsmedaille (26. 03. 1907)
-Königlich Preußischer Roter Adler-Orden IV. Klasse (16. 01. 1910)
-Königlich Preußisches Dienstauszeichnungskreuz (13. 05. 1911)
-Kolonial-Denkmünze
-Hamburgisches Hanseatenkreuz
-Marineverwundetenabzeichen (1918) in Gold
-Kolonialabzeichen (Elefantenorden)
-Ehrenkreuz des Weltkrieges 1914/1918 mit Schwertern für Frontkämpfer
-Ehrenzeichen der NSDAP
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Char. Konteradmiral (Ing.) Walter Berendt (1878-1978)

Post by Kriegsmarine Großadmiral » 05 Dec 2023 17:39

Char. Konteradmiral (Ing.) Walter Berendt (1878-1978)

First column:
- China-Denkmünze in Bronze
- Königlich Preußisches Dienstauszeichnung III. Klasse
- Eisernes Kreuz (1914) II. Klasse (05. 01. 1915)
- Eisernes Kreuz (1914) I. Klasse (24. 08. 1917)
- Königlich Preußisches Dienstauszeichnungskreuz (30. 03. 1920)
- Ehrenkreuz für Frontkämpfer (30. 01. 1935)
- Wehrmacht Dienstauszeichnung I. bis IV. Klasse (02. 10. 1936)

Second column:
- St. Annen-Orden-Medaille (RSt. M c) (15. 10. 1907) (see "1." below)
- Königlich Preußische Rettungsmedaille am Bande (29. 04. 1927)

1. There are two different medals written at the top of the right column.
Berendt was awarded the Silberne Medaille am Bande des Kaiserlich Russischen St. Stanislaus-Ordens, which is written in the brackets (abbreviation "RSt. M c").
The "St. Annen-Orden-Medaille" part is incorrect.
Even though this award is crossed out in the document, it appears the award date is correct.
"RSt. M c" is not listed for Berendt in the 1907 Rangliste (published on 06 May 1907), but it is listed in the 1908 Rangliste (published on 06 May 1908), which means the award date "15. 10. 1907" is correct.
I think we should include this award date even though it is crossed out. Do you agree?
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Re: Char. Konteradmiral (Ing.) Walter Berendt (1878-1978)

Post by graveland » 05 Dec 2023 18:30

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05 Dec 2023 17:39
Char. Konteradmiral (Ing.) Walter Berendt (1878-1978)

1. There are two different medals written at the top of the right column.
Berendt was awarded the Silberne Medaille am Bande des Kaiserlich Russischen St. Stanislaus-Ordens, which is written in the brackets (abbreviation "RSt. M c").
The "St. Annen-Orden-Medaille" part is incorrect.
Even though this award is crossed out in the document, it appears the award date is correct.
"RSt. M c" is not listed for Berendt in the 1907 Rangliste (published on 06 May 1907), but it is listed in the 1908 Rangliste (published on 06 May 1908), which means the award date "15. 10. 1907" is correct.
I think we should include this award date even though it is crossed out. Do you agree?
Yes, I do.

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Re: Char. Konteradmiral (Ing.) Walter Berendt (1878-1978)

Post by Kriegsmarine Großadmiral » 06 Dec 2023 16:48

askropp, please update Berendt's awards. Just copy-paste the list below. I highlighted the changes in blue but you can keep the text black.
Also, delete all the text at the bottom of his award list and the second photo posted (the medal).


Char. Konteradmiral (Ing.) Walter Berendt (1878-1978) viewtopic.php?f=5&t=239341&p=2185338&hi ... t#p2185338

-Eisernes Kreuz (1914) II. Klasse (05. 01. 1915)
-Eisernes Kreuz (1914) I. Klasse (24. 08. 1917)
-China-Denkmünze in Bronze
-Silberne Medaille am Bande des Kaiserlich Russischen St. Stanislaus-Ordens (15. 10. 1907)
-Königlich Preußisches Dienstauszeichnung III. Klasse
-Königlich Preußisches Dienstauszeichnungskreuz (30. 03. 1920)
-Königlich Preußische Rettungsmedaille am Bande (29. 04. 1927)
-Ehrenkreuz des Weltkrieges 1914/1918 mit Schwertern für Frontkämpfer (30. 01. 1935)
-Wehrmacht Dienstauszeichnung IV. bis I. Klasse (02. 10. 1936)

Please also add these two new photos of Berendt:
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Konteradmiral (Ing.) z.V. Wilhelm Betche (1879-1941)

Post by Kriegsmarine Großadmiral » 07 Dec 2023 17:36

Wilhelm Betche has a Personalakte, but there are no documents mentioning awards.

askropp, please update Betche's awards. Just copy-paste the list below.

Konteradmiral (Ing.) z.V. Wilhelm Betche (1879-1941) viewtopic.php?f=5&t=239341&p=2185391&hi ... e#p2185391

-Eisernes Kreuz (1914) II. Klasse
-Eisernes Kreuz (1914) I. Klasse
-Königlich Preußisches Dienstauszeichnung III. Klasse
-Großherzoglich Mecklenburg-Schwerinsches Militärverdienstkreuz II. Klasse
-Königlich Preußisches Dienstauszeichnungskreuz
-Ehrenkreuz des Weltkrieges 1914/1918 mit Schwertern für Frontkämpfer
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Vizeadmiral Leopold Bürkner (1894-1975)

Post by Kriegsmarine Großadmiral » 08 Dec 2023 13:16

Small update for Leopold Bürkner, based on new photographic evidence.

Vizeadmiral Leopold Bürkner (1894-1975) viewtopic.php?f=5&t=239341&p=2181077&hi ... r#p2181077

askropp, please add the following award below the "Spanische Bürgerkriegs-Erinnerungsmedaille 1936-1939 (Medalla de la Campaña Española)":

-Spange (1939) zum Eisernen Kreuz II. Klasse
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Konteradmiral Erich Bey (1898-1943)

Post by Kriegsmarine Großadmiral » 08 Dec 2023 13:40

Konteradmiral Erich Bey (1898-1943)

Awards from the five photos below:

- Spange (1939) zum Eisernen Kreuz II. Klasse (16. 10. 1939)

- Eisernes Kreuz (1939) I. Klasse (20. 11. 1939)

- Ritterkreuz des Eisernen Kreuzes (09. 05. 1940)

- Wehrmacht Dienstauszeichnung IV. bis II. Klasse (02. 10. 1936)
- Spange (1939) zum Eisernen Kreuz II. Klasse (16. 10. 1939)
- Eisernes Kreuz (1939) I. Klasse (20. 11. 1939)
- Ritterkreuz des Eisernen Kreuzes (09. 05. 1940)
- Sudetenerinnerungsmedaille (20. 12. 1939)

- Eisernes Kreuz (1914) II. Klasse
- Baltenkreuz
- Brigade-Verdienstabzeichen (see "1." below)
- Schlesischer Adlerorden

1. Bey was the Company-Officer in the III. Naval-Brigade (01 March 1919-31 May 1920) for over a year. I think this "Brigade-Verdienstabzeichen" is the "Bewährungsabzeichen der III. Marine-Brigade von Loewenfeld II. und I. Klasse". Do you agree?
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Re: Konteradmiral Erich Bey (1898-1943)

Post by graveland » 08 Dec 2023 16:26

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Konteradmiral Erich Bey (1898-1943)

- Eisernes Kreuz (1914) II. Klasse
- Baltenkreuz
- Brigade-Verdienstabzeichen (see "1." below)
- Schlesischer Adlerorden

1. Bey was the Company-Officer in the III. Naval-Brigade (01 March 1919-31 May 1920) for over a year. I think this "Brigade-Verdienstabzeichen" is the "Bewährungsabzeichen der III. Marine-Brigade von Loewenfeld II. und I. Klasse". Do you agree?
Yes, I do. But I'd only add the following:

- Bewährungsabzeichen der III. Marine-Brigade von Loewenfeld 2. Klasse
- Schlesisches Bewährungsabzeichen (Schlesischer Adler) 2. Klasse

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Re: Konteradmiral Erich Bey (1898-1943)

Post by Kriegsmarine Großadmiral » 08 Dec 2023 16:31

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08 Dec 2023 13:40
Konteradmiral Erich Bey (1898-1943)

- Eisernes Kreuz (1914) II. Klasse
- Baltenkreuz
- Brigade-Verdienstabzeichen (see "1." below)
- Schlesischer Adlerorden

1. Bey was the Company-Officer in the III. Naval-Brigade (01 March 1919-31 May 1920) for over a year. I think this "Brigade-Verdienstabzeichen" is the "Bewährungsabzeichen der III. Marine-Brigade von Loewenfeld II. und I. Klasse". Do you agree?
Yes, I do. But I'd only add the following:

- Bewährungsabzeichen der III. Marine-Brigade von Loewenfeld 2. Klasse
- Schlesisches Bewährungsabzeichen (Schlesischer Adler) 2. Klasse
We already have the Schlesisches Bewährungsabzeichen (Schlesischer Adler) II. Klasse on Bey's award list.

And again, for someone who was in the III. Marine-Brigade for so long, I'm pretty sure he was awarded both the II. and I. Klasse of the Bewährungsabzeichen der III. Marine-Brigade von Loewenfeld.
Max Adam was with the III. Naval-Brigade from 21 March 1920 until 31 May 1920, and he was awarded the I. Klasse (we have photographic evidence).

Why wouldn't you add the Baltenkreuz for Bey?
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Re: Konteradmiral Erich Bey (1898-1943)

Post by graveland » 08 Dec 2023 17:26

Kriegsmarine Großadmiral wrote:
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Why wouldn't you add the Baltenkreuz for Bey?
I would add it to his list, of course.

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