Generalleutnant z.V. Kurt Schreiber

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Generalleutnant z.V. Kurt Schreiber

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Post by AlifRafikKhan » 22 Jan 2020, 14:31

Hi, need bio and pics of Generalleutnant z.V. Kurt Schreiber. Thank you in advance.

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Post by Nicolas7507 » 22 Jan 2020, 16:42

Hi,

Here is a photo with Schreiber in the center and his ribbon bars (Source:eMedals).

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Post by AlifRafikKhan » 23 Jan 2020, 15:54

Thank you Nicolas7507

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Post by Dieter Zinke » 30 Jan 2020, 19:25

Kurt Schreiber
* 01.04.1875 Langenschwalbach (heute Bad Schwalbach)
† 27.05.1964 Göttingen

01.03.1894 Avantageur
18.10.1894 Fähnrich
18.08.1895 Sekondeleutnant
01.01.1899 Leutnant (Umbenennung)
22.04.1905 Oberleutnant
27.01.1911 Hauptmann
27.01.1917 Major
01.05.1922 Oberstleutnant
01.02.1927 Oberst
01.10.1929 Generalmajor
31.01.1931 Charakter als Generalleutnant
01.02.1941 Generalleutnant z.V.

Eltern: Oberregierungsrat Karl Schreiber & Mathilde geb. Delius

01.03.1894 Eintritt in das 5. Pommersche Infanterie-Regiment “Prinz Moritz von Anhalt-Dessau” Nr. 42, Stralsund
00.08.1895 Kompanieoffizier im 5. Pommerschen Infanterie-Regiment “Prinz Moritz von Anhalt-Dessau” Nr. 42
01.04.1897 im 5. Westpreußischen Infanterie-Regiment Nr. 148, Bromberg/Provinz Posen (heute: Bydgoszcz/Polen)
01.10.1898 Bataillonsadjutant im 5. Westpreußischen Infanterie-Regiment Nr. 148
01.10.1902 Erzieher am Haupt-Kadetten-Haus in Groß-Lichterfelde
01.04.1905 Adjutant des Hauptkadettenhauses
27.01.1911 Kompaniechef im 5. Großherzoglich-Hessischen Infanterie-Regiment Nr. 168, Offenbach
00.00.1915 schwer verwundet als Führer des I. Bataillons des 5. Großherzoglich-Hessischen Infanterie-Regiments Nr. 168
18.07.1915 Kommandant des Hauptquartiers der Armee-Abteilung C
01.12.1917 Kommandant des Kadettenhauses Plön
01.07.1918 Adjutant des Generalinspekteurs des Militärischen Erziehungs- und Bildungswesens
01.10.1919 Adjutant der Inspektion des Erziehungs- und Bildungswesens (In 1) im Reichswehrministerium (RWM)
01.01.1924 Kommandeur des I. (Hanseat.) Bataillons des 16. Infanterie-Regiments, Bremen
01.02.1927 Chef der Heeres-Personal-Abteilung 2 (P 2; Disziplinarangelegenheiten) im RWM, Berlin
01.02.1930 Kommandant von Berlin
31.01.1931 Verabschiedung aus dem aktiven Dienst der Reichswehr
-- 1938 -- Generalluftschutzführer im Luftgau XI Niedersachsen
26.08.1939 z.V. ObdH
24.10.1939 Kommandeur des Divisionsstabes z.b.V. 430 (zur Führung von Landesschützen)
01.12.1939 Oberfeldkommandant 570 (OFK 570) [(Osnabrück, 22.05.1940 Niederlande, 01.06.1940 Gent)]
01.07.1940 - 07.07.1940 Oberfeldkommandant A, St. Germain
07.07.1940 - 19.07.1940 Chef der Militärverwaltung A , Nordwestfrankreich, St. Germain
19.07.1940 - 30.11.1941 Bezirkschef des Militärverwaltungsbezirks A, Nordwestfrankreich
01.12.1941 Kommandant von Hannover
31.03.1943 Versetzung in den Ruhestand, Mobilmachungsverwendung aufgehoben

Seit 29.04.1906 verheiratet mit Paula Mayer-Reddersburg

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KVK I mS
Ehrenzeichen für Deutsche Volkspflege, 2. Stufe


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Post by graveland » 30 Jan 2020, 19:49

Thank you, Dieter.

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Post by AlifRafikKhan » 31 Jan 2020, 15:47

Thank you Oberstab

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Post by Nicolas7507 » 01 Feb 2020, 10:32

Schreiber did not receive a HOH3X (Hohenzollern). Ranklist 1928 shows him with KO4, EK1, HT, HH, EH3, SLH3, Wound Badge and DA.

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Post by Georges JEROME » 13 Feb 2020, 18:18

thank you Dieter
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Post by Requin Marteau » 06 Feb 2021, 13:04

Ehrenzeichen für Deutsche Volkspflege, 2. Stufe 2nd photo, not match
It's Verdienstkreuz des Ehrenzeichen DRK, 3. Form 1937-1939 (3th photo, match)
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Post by Dave Danner » 15 Aug 2021, 09:40

Does anyone know if Schreiber was placed z.V. as a char. Generalleutnant and then given a patent (or its Wehrmacht equivalent) in 1941, or as a Generalmajor z.V. and then promoted to Generalleutnant z.V.?
Nicolas7507 wrote:
01 Feb 2020, 10:32
Schreiber did not receive a HOH3X (Hohenzollern). Ranklist 1928 shows him with KO4, EK1, HT, HH, EH3, SLH3, Wound Badge and DA.

Nicolas
His Ernestine was a Knight 2nd Class (EH3b), with the "b" missing in the RH Ranglisten. As usual, missing from the RH Ranglisten are campaign/commemorative medals and prewar peacetime foreign awards. In addition to the awards which Nicolas has listed above, he also had the Centenary Medal, the Anhalt Regierungsjubiläumsmedaille, the Officer of the Persian Order of the Lion and Sun (PL4) and the Knight of the Siamese Order of the White Elephant (SE5).

I've annotated the awards on the eMedals photo. The first bar is a German-only bar, following Third Reich precedence of wartime before peacetime German state awards. The other two follow a modified Prussian Army precedence, with Prussian orders and medals first, then state wartime awards, then state peacetime awards, then non-German awards. Even here, there are quirks. The second bar places state orders first (EH3b and SLH3) and then the Anhalt jubilee medal, while the third seems to prioritize by the level of the state, with the order duchy-duchy-principality.

I am uncertain about the last three on the third bar. As you can see on the second bar, the final ribbon - the green ribbon of the PL4 - is fading to almost yellow. I think it is the ribbon indicated on the third bar (third-from-last), but it might be the last one. I am partially colorblind, but that last one looks reddish and might have an edge stripe, which would not fit the Persian order, while the third-from-last looks like an even-more faded yellowish green. If I'm off, and that one is the PL4, then it is the third-from-last for which there is a question mark.
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Post by askropp » 15 Aug 2021, 10:22

Does anyone know if Schreiber was placed z.V. as a char. Generalleutnant and then given a patent (or its Wehrmacht equivalent) in 1941, or as a Generalmajor z.V. and then promoted to Generalleutnant z.V.?
Why, it's just as Dieter wrote above (Charakter since 1931). The dates of the PV differ fom those by Krug:

25.11.1939 Oberfeldkommandant 570
05.07.1940 Chef der Militärverwaltung Nordwestfrankreich
24.06.1941 Führerreserve OKH (XI)
29.12.1941 Kommandant von Hannover
14.01.1943 Führerreserve OKH (XI)
31.03.1943 Mobilmachungsverwendung aufgehoben
There are times in history when staying neutral means taking sides.

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Post by Nicolas7507 » 15 Aug 2021, 10:48

Dave Danner wrote:
15 Aug 2021, 09:40
Does anyone know if Schreiber was placed z.V. as a char. Generalleutnant and then given a patent (or its Wehrmacht equivalent) in 1941, or as a Generalmajor z.V. and then promoted to Generalleutnant z.V.?
Nicolas7507 wrote:
01 Feb 2020, 10:32
Schreiber did not receive a HOH3X (Hohenzollern). Ranklist 1928 shows him with KO4, EK1, HT, HH, EH3, SLH3, Wound Badge and DA.

Nicolas
His Ernestine was a Knight 2nd Class (EH3b), with the "b" missing in the RH Ranglisten. As usual, missing from the RH Ranglisten are campaign/commemorative medals and prewar peacetime foreign awards. In addition to the awards which Nicolas has listed above, he also had the Centenary Medal, the Anhalt Regierungsjubiläumsmedaille, the Officer of the Persian Order of the Lion and Sun (PL4) and the Knight of the Siamese Order of the White Elephant (SE5).

I've annotated the awards on the eMedals photo. The first bar is a German-only bar, following Third Reich precedence of wartime before peacetime German state awards. The other two follow a modified Prussian Army precedence, with Prussian orders and medals first, then state wartime awards, then state peacetime awards, then non-German awards. Even here, there are quirks. The second bar places state orders first (EH3b and SLH3) and then the Anhalt jubilee medal, while the third seems to prioritize by the level of the state, with the order duchy-duchy-principality.

I am uncertain about the last three on the third bar. As you can see on the second bar, the final ribbon - the green ribbon of the PL4 - is fading to almost yellow. I think it is the ribbon indicated on the third bar (third-from-last), but it might be the last one. I am partially colorblind, but that last one looks reddish and might have an edge stripe, which would not fit the Persian order, while the third-from-last looks like an even-more faded yellowish green. If I'm off, and that one is the PL4, then it is the third-from-last for which there is a question mark.
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Great analysis, Dave! One small correction: The last ribbon on the top bar is green and I guess the PL4 would fit better in that case. The last ribbon on the bottom bar could be a St.Alexander.

Nicolas

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Post by Requin Marteau » 15 Aug 2021, 10:58

Awards List:
 Anhaltisches Silberne Erinnerungsmedaille zum 25 Jährigen Regierungsjubiläum (22 mai 1896),
 Preussisches Kaiser Wilhelm Erinnerungsmedaille 1897 (1897),
 Persisches Ritterkreuz des Sonnen u. Löwenorden (1907),
 Ehrenkreuz 4. kl des Schaumburg-Lippischen Hausorden (1908),
 Siamesisches Ritterkreuz des Weissen Elefanten Orden (1908),
 Preussischer Kronenorden Kreuz 4. kl (1909),
 Ritterkreuz 2. kl des Sachsen Ernestinischen Hausorden (1910),
 Ehrenkreuz 3. kl des Schaumburg-Lippischen Hausorden (1911),
 EK II,
 EK I,
 Hessisches Allgemeines Ehrenzeichen «für Tapferkeit»,
 Hamburgisches Hanseatenkreuz,
 Preussisches Dienstauszeichnungskreuz 1. kl,
 Verwundeten Abzeichen in Schwarz,
 Ehrenkreuz des Weltkrieges 1914-1918 mit Schwertern (1934),
 Bulgarisches St Alexander Orden,
 Verdienstkreuz des Ehrenzeichen DRK,
 1939 Spange zum 1914 EK II (27 juin 1940),
 KVK II mit Schwertern,
 KVK I mit Schwertern (30 janvier 1943).

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Post by Rossano » 15 Aug 2021, 12:09

Dave : "Does anyone know if Schreiber was placed z.V. as a char. Generalleutnant and then given a patent (or its Wehrmacht equivalent) in 1941, or as a Generalmajor z.V. and then promoted to Generalleutnant z.V.?"
Askropp : Why, it's just as Dieter wrote above (Charakter since 1931)

In PV./HPA he is registered on 25.11.39 already as GL.zV. but it must be an error because in another PV./HPA he is promoted m.W. v. 1.2.41 from char. GL.zV. to full GL.zV. (like given by Krug, Keilig, etc.)

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Post by Dave Danner » 16 Aug 2021, 02:45

It seems like I have seen cases where a retired officer with a Charakter bump was reactivated at that rank, and others where he was reactivated at his last permanent rank. That was what I was hoping to clarify.

The last ribbon on the first bar does look like another one of those green fading to yellowish ones, but that bar is German-only. It is a fading Centenary Medal.

You guys are right that a St. Alexander would make sense for the last row. Is that award confirmed somewhere?

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