looking for Major von Schön-Angerer - StOArt 11.Armee 1941

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looking for Major von Schön-Angerer - StOArt 11.Armee 1941

Post by Melax » 10 Sep 2020 13:02

Hi,

I am looking for informations about one

Major von Schön-Angerer - who was Stoart (Stabsoffizier der Artillerie) in the Staff of 11.Armee in 1941/42

So far I have found 2 Officers with the name

Oberst Joachim von Schön-Angerer *04.04.1904 - he should not be the one I am looking for

and

Oberst Helmuth von Schön-Angerer *17.07.1900

Helmuth v.S.-A. COULD be the one I am looking for but there is no data to make it clear...

maybe one of you have an idea or could provide informations about the StOArt of 11.Armee in the time of Barbarossa?

would be glad fo any kind of informations/picture etc :)

also, if anybody has an idea were to find informations about german artillery officers, I would be glad to learn about so I don't have to ask so many questions :oops:

thanks a lot and regards,

Alexander

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Re: looking for Major von Schön-Angerer - StOArt 11.Armee 1941

Post by Rossano » 11 Sep 2020 07:17

Your man is Helmuth !

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Re: looking for Major von Schön-Angerer - StOArt 11.Armee 1941

Post by Melax » 11 Sep 2020 09:06

Hi Rossano,

would be a great info but how can you be sure about it? Do you have a reference/document?

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Re: looking for Major von Schön-Angerer - StOArt 11.Armee 1941

Post by Rossano » 11 Sep 2020 10:21

"It is" a great info.....I´m sure.....

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Re: looking for Major von Schön-Angerer - StOArt 11.Armee 1941

Post by Stauffenberg II » 12 Sep 2020 15:01

Here is the date of Joachim from the Handliste der Generalstabsoffiziere 1941. They obviously underwent a name changing in the 1930s, because the old name with which they are listed is Angerer gen. von Schön.

So Joachim is not your man. I believe Rossano is right and it should be Helmut, an ext. Artillery officer.

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Re: looking for Major von Schön-Angerer - StOArt 11.Armee 1941

Post by Melax » 14 Sep 2020 08:19

Thanks you two :)

so Helmuth is the one (was afraid a 3rd von Schön-Angerer might exist), good to know :)

so I am looking for informations about

Oberst Helmuth von Schön-Angerer
* 17.07.1900

does anybody knows anything about him?

Thanks again and kind regards,
Alexander

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Re: looking for Major von Schön-Angerer - StOArt 11.Armee 1941

Post by Melax » 09 Jul 2021 13:03

Info from Militär-Wochenblatt Band 111, page 1567:

"Befördert mit Wirkung vom 01.04.1927: zum Oberleutnant: Leutnant *Angerer, gen. v.Schön, Helmuth, Art.R.6"
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Re: looking for Major von Schön-Angerer - StOArt 11.Armee 1941

Post by Dave Danner » 09 Jul 2021 23:46

I am having some trouble with my eyes, so I will just post this rather than trying to transcribe the information. If someone wants to transcribe it so it is easier to read and searchable, please have at it.
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Re: looking for Major von Schön-Angerer - StOArt 11.Armee 1941

Post by Melax » 10 Jul 2021 09:19

Hi Dave,

thank you so much!!!

just what I was looking for! And (at least for me) the original source is even better than a transcript - thank you SO MUCH!!!

Alexander

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Oberst Helmuth von Schön-Angerer

Post by Melax » 10 Jul 2021 10:20

so, a short summary of the informations thanks to Dave and others:


Oberst Helmuth Rudolf Karl Kurt von Schön-Angerer (till 1923: Angerer, till 1933: Angerer gen. v.Schön) (sometimes Schön written as Schoen)
* 17.07.1900 in Münster
† ???

oo 16.05.1936 Elna Kühne von Stockfleth (*31.12.1908; † ???); 1 daughter

Vater: Ephraim Rudolf Robert Angerer, later von Schön-Angerer (*03.04.1857, Danzig; †12.01.1943, Minden) Oberregierungsrat, Verwaltungsjurist
Mutter: Sabine Therese Sophie Ella von Diebitsch

Beförderungen:

22.06.1918: Fahnenjunker
18.01.1921: Fähnrich (m.W.z. 01.01.1921)
01.05.1922: Leutnant (RDA 01.05.1922 (30))
01.05.1927: Oberleutnant (m.W.v. 01.04.1927 (11))
01.04.1934: Hauptmann (63)
05.01.1939: Major (RDA 01.12.1938 (41))
15.09.1941: Oberstleutnant (m.W.v. 01.10.1941 (52))
06.04.1943: Oberst (m.W.v. 01.04.1943 (71))


Werdegang:

xx.xx.1918: Feld.Art. 22 (?)
06.07.1919: Re.A.R.7 (?)
28.05.1920: 1. Lehrgang Infanterie-Schule München
01.01.1921: A.R.6 (infolge Umbenennung)
05.01.1921: Waffenschullehrgang für Artillerie
08.09.1926: 1 Jahr Berater zur ???, verlängert um weiteres Jahr
24.04.1930: 4 Monate Nachrichtenlehrgang bei der Artillerie-Schule
01.10.1934: III./A.R. Münster
15.10.1935: Chef 8./A.R.16

10.11.1939: Chef 6./A.R.16 (other source: 15.10.1939-31.10.1940 KOmmandeur I./A.R.160)
xx.xx.1939: A.R.160
12.11.1940: Stoart AOK 11 (26.10.1940 versetzt)
xx.xx.1941: Führerreserve Wehrkreis Kdo. IV
20.01.1942: Führerreserve Wehrkreis Kdo.VI (m.W.v. 26.12.1941 versetzt)
20.06.1942: Stab Heeresgruppe D, Stoart (m.W.v. 01.05.1942 bzw. m.W.v. 23.05.1942)
20.09.1943: Kommandeur Art.Reg.15


Auszeichnungen:

07.02.1935: Ehrenkreuz für Kriegsteilnehmer
02.10.1936: Wehrmacht (Heer) Dienstauszeichnung 4. bis 2. Klasse
25.09.1939: EK II.Klasse
26.10.1939: Danzig-Kreuz 1.Klasse
02.11.1939: EK I.Klasse
01.09.1943: KVK 2.Kklasse mit Schwertern

EDIT: added Info by graveland
Last edited by Melax on 10 Jul 2021 12:40, edited 1 time in total.

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Re: looking for Major von Schön-Angerer - StOArt 11.Armee 1941

Post by graveland » 10 Jul 2021 11:32

02.10.1936 Wehrmacht (Heer) Dienstauszeichnung 4. bis 2. Klasse

Thank you, boys.

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Re: looking for Major von Schön-Angerer - StOArt 11.Armee 1941

Post by Nicolas7507 » 26 Jul 2021 17:06

Any chance he received the Medaille zur Erinnerung an den 1. Oktober 1938?

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Re: looking for Major von Schön-Angerer - StOArt 11.Armee 1941

Post by Dave Danner » 26 Jul 2021 21:51

Probably not. His regiment was based in Westfalen.

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