SS-Sturmbannführer Hans Bothmann

Discussions on all aspects of the SS and Polizei. Hosted by Andrey.
chrish
Member
Posts: 1060
Joined: 25 May 2003 19:29
Location: Poland

SS-Sturmbannführer Hans Bothmann

Post by chrish » 30 Jun 2003 14:30

I’am looking info on SS-Sturmbannführer Hans Bothmann , Commander Sonderkommando Kulmhof (Che³mno nad Nerem) , especially SS- & NSDAP-Nr. , SS-Stubaf. promotion date etc.

Thanks in advance .

User avatar
Georg_S
Member
Posts: 2707
Joined: 08 Dec 2016 12:37
Location: Sweden

Post by Georg_S » 30 Jun 2003 15:36

hi

Here you atleast have a photo of him

Regards,

Georg

chrish
Member
Posts: 1060
Joined: 25 May 2003 19:29
Location: Poland

Post by chrish » 30 Jun 2003 16:15

Nice photo ... thanks !

User avatar
FANGIO
Member
Posts: 2742
Joined: 22 Dec 2003 16:42
Location: Argentina

Re: SS-Sturmbannführer Hans Bothmann

Post by FANGIO » 08 May 2009 03:51

mmm... I don´t see the pic anymore (very old post). Anybody has one?
Best,

FANGIO

User avatar
spottedcow
Member
Posts: 313
Joined: 08 Sep 2006 23:36
Location: Poland

Re: SS-Sturmbannführer Hans Bothmann

Post by spottedcow » 02 Mar 2012 19:13

This is an old topic but I hate to start another Hans Bothmann thread.

I am trying to compile his career assignments. Can anyone help with this? I am stuck at this point:

Stapoleitstelle ........... (01.11.1935 – 00.00.0000)
Stapoleitstelle Berlin (01.08.1937 – 00.00.0000) as Candidate Kriminalkommissar
Stapoleitstelle Leipzig (00.00.0000 – 00.03.1942) as (I can't find the promotion date to KK)
Stapoleitstelle Posen (Poznan) (00.03.1942 – 00.04.1943) as Kriminalkommissar
.......................... (00.00.1943 - 00.00.1944) W-SS service in Yugoslavia
Stapoleitstelle Posen (Poznan) (00.03.1944 – 00.01.1945) as Kriminalkommissar
......................... (00.01.1945 – 00.00.1945) (His driver said B worked in a liaison capacity with Himmler's office)
......................... (00.00.1945 - 00.05.1945)

The interweb tells me his last assignment was in Flensburg with 1) SIPO and 2) Border Police. What are the sources for this, or better yet, what actually what his last assignment?
One other thing, has anyone seen any documentation about his service in Prinz Eugen - specific unit assignment, etc?

If possible, please offer sources for info.
Thanks much
Patrick
Last edited by Dieter Zinke on 03 Mar 2012 12:12, edited 1 time in total.
Reason: back then it was "Stapoleitstelle Posen", the name of the town is now Poznan.

User avatar
Helge
Member
Posts: 1485
Joined: 12 Jun 2010 07:09
Location: Finland

Re: SS-Sturmbannführer Hans Bothmann

Post by Helge » 02 Mar 2012 20:02

Hans Bothmann
You do not have the required permissions to view the files attached to this post.
Sota ei päätä kuka on oikeassa, vain sen että kuka on jäljellä.
War does not decide who is right but only those who are left.

User avatar
spottedcow
Member
Posts: 313
Joined: 08 Sep 2006 23:36
Location: Poland

Re: SS-Sturmbannführer Hans Bothmann

Post by spottedcow » 02 Mar 2012 20:29

Thanks for the photos, but the small portrait photo on the left is not Bothmann. It is a Schutzpolizei guard named Bolmann who served in Chelmno.

User avatar
Helge
Member
Posts: 1485
Joined: 12 Jun 2010 07:09
Location: Finland

Re: SS-Sturmbannführer Hans Bothmann

Post by Helge » 02 Mar 2012 20:39

spottedcow wrote:Thanks for the photos, but the small portrait photo on the left is not Bothmann. It is a Schutzpolizei guard named Bolmann who served in Chelmno.


Right Bothmann full picture
Sota ei päätä kuka on oikeassa, vain sen että kuka on jäljellä.
War does not decide who is right but only those who are left.

User avatar
Helge
Member
Posts: 1485
Joined: 12 Jun 2010 07:09
Location: Finland

Re: SS-Sturmbannführer Hans Bothmann

Post by Helge » 02 Mar 2012 20:41

You do not have the required permissions to view the files attached to this post.
Sota ei päätä kuka on oikeassa, vain sen että kuka on jäljellä.
War does not decide who is right but only those who are left.

Mikedc
Member
Posts: 6245
Joined: 05 May 2004 23:13
Location: Netherlands

Re: SS-Sturmbannführer Hans Bothmann

Post by Mikedc » 15 Aug 2012 00:40

A Befehlsblatt der Sipo und SD from 1944/ausgabe A, mentions an SS-Hstuf and Krim.Komm. Bohtmann being with the KdS Posen in 1944 and promoted to Krim.Rat in 1944.
I suppose this document is referring to Hans Bothmann.

Greetings, Mike

User avatar
spottedcow
Member
Posts: 313
Joined: 08 Sep 2006 23:36
Location: Poland

Re: SS-Sturmbannführer Hans Bothmann

Post by spottedcow » 15 Aug 2012 05:30

Yes, that is him. Can anyone help with his career assignments that I posted above?

Thanks,
Patrick

steve248
Member
Posts: 1796
Joined: 10 Aug 2003 20:53
Location: St Albans, England

Re: SS-Sturmbannführer Hans Bothmann

Post by steve248 » 16 Aug 2012 07:56

According to John Moore's Waffen-SS listing, Bothmann joined the LAH (Berlin) in August 1934 as SS-Mann.
SS No. 117630.
From Spotted Cow's listing, he was probably a Kriminalassistentenanwärter with Stapoleitstelle Berlin from I Nov 1935 before being accepted as a Kriminalkommissaranwärter. This was a typical route.
He was certainly a "full" KK in 1940 with Stapostelle Leipzig (listed in BBL 33/40).
Working back from that, he possibly took the KK-Lehrgang in 1938-1939.
Unfortunately I have not yet found in German archives complete listings for the 30+ Kriminalkommissar courses between 1933 and 1944.

steve248
Member
Posts: 1796
Joined: 10 Aug 2003 20:53
Location: St Albans, England

Re: SS-Sturmbannführer Hans Bothmann

Post by steve248 » 16 Aug 2012 08:15

Incidentally, I think Yad Vashem have the wrong date of death in the picture above.
I believe it 4 April 1946 not 4 April 1945 (the war was not over in April 1945 and the Brits did not have a POW camp at Heide on this 1945 date).

User avatar
Jérôme
Member
Posts: 1096
Joined: 19 Jul 2003 08:23
Location: Normandy.

Re: SS-Sturmbannführer Hans Bothmann

Post by Jérôme » 16 Aug 2012 19:21

Hstuf :01/09/42
Pty °3601334

User avatar
bettika
Member
Posts: 50
Joined: 20 Oct 2015 18:24
Location: Flensburg, Germany

Re: SS-Sturmbannführer Hans Bothmann

Post by bettika » 28 Oct 2016 17:01

spottedcow wrote:Thanks for the photos, but the small portrait photo on the left is not Bothmann. It is a Schutzpolizei guard named Bolmann who served in Chelmno.
in an Exhibition about Kulmhof http://www.stiftung-denkmal.de/ausstell ... lager.html
they make the same mistake, using the small photo as "Bothmann" , nearby a collection with Portrait photos you ca read "Bolman"

Brg.
Beate
You do not have the required permissions to view the files attached to this post.

Return to “The Phil Nix SS & Polizei section”