Hauptmann / Major d.R. Massmann

[Melax]

Hi,

I am looking for Informations about one "Hauptmann d.R. Massmann" - sadly I know nearly nothing about him and hope that someone of you might HELP -.-

what I know:

- Born 1891 (source: NARA T315 R1609 Page 661)
- in March 1940 he was Batterieoffizier 6. Batterie, II.Abteilung, Artillerie Regiment 208, Rang: Hauptmann d.R., unknown RDA, maybe his WW1 rank? But most likly he was Oberleutnant after WW1 (source: NARA T315 R1609 Page 661)
- from May 1941 on he was Batteriechef 1.Batterie Heeres-Küsten-Artillerie-Abteilung 903, Rang: Hauptmann d.R.

that's it -.- that's all I have -.-

most likly he was promoted some time after May 1942 to Major d.R.

maybe someone can help? Is the Info enough to know somethig about his WW1 record? His First-Name?

Does anybody have him in the Personalveränderungen or other files?

Any help is more than welcome as I really don't know how to find more -.-

Thanks a lot,
Alexander

PS: His Wehrkreis should be WK III - so he has to be born or was living in Berlin/Brankenburg/Frankfurt Oder/Stettin or nearly in the late 1930s

[Melax]

no one an idea?

even someone who MIGHT be the right one as a basis for future research? -.-

[Dave Danner]

If he was born in 1891, he was likely a Leutnant der Reserve in World War I. I looked several days ago and found that there were rather a few Maßmanns/Massmanns commissioned in the Feldartillerie and Fußartillerie, and I could not narrow it down to any likely candidates.

[Melax]

Hi Dave,

thanks that you have looked after him

maybe someone else has him in a list as an officer in AR 208 - guess with a Firstname the search would be much more easy -.-

[Melax]

next tiny little bit of information (sorry but can't edit the postings)

it seems Hauptmann Massmann was not part of II./AR 208 in Dezember 1939 - as he is mentioned in March 1940 as part of 6./AR 208, it seems he has transfered in this time periode (from one Abteilung of 208 to the other or from outside)

Maybe this improves the chance someone got him in his lists ... -.-

kind regards,
Alexander

[Melax]

Hi again,

I think I have found his first-name

in the Mobilmachungsstellenbesetzung of AR 208 from 01.03.1939 is in 7./AR 208 one "Oberleutnant d.R. Walter Maßmann", as Mun.-Offz. mentioned.

he should be the one I am looking for... writing of Maßmann and Massmann is not constistant.

so he should have been Munitionsoffizier 7./AR 208 (part of III./AR 208), later Batteriechef 6./AR 208 (II.AR 208) and from May 1941 Batteriechef 1./HKAA 903

So, maybe this might help pin him down?

thanks again,
Alexander

EDIT: looks like he was a "Senatsrat" in civil life, living in Babelsberg, Fürstenweg 43 and also owned Fürstenweg 41 where some "Oberbaurat a.D. Karl Massmann" was living - so I would guess most likely his father?

EDIT 2: his day of birth seems to be 04.02.1891

[Rossano]

Hello Dave
I wanted to help Alex but I found nothing else on his Massmann.
But by checking I found instead (in my names list for T77 R949) in dec. 41 an Art.Hptm. d.Ldw. Ing. Maßmann. If You have him, first name ?

[Dave Danner]

Walter Maßmann, born 04.02.1891 in Lobenstein, Fürstentum Reuß jüngere Linie, was a Leutnant der Reserve (24.10.1915) in Altmärkisches Feldartillerie-Regiment Nr. 40. He was twice wounded and according to the regimental history received the EK1 in July 1918. There are no rolls for the Fürstlich reußisches Ehrenkreuz from the jüngere Linie, so I cannot say for certain, but it's possible he received the 3. Klasse mit Schwertern of the Ehrenkreuz as well.

I don't have anything on a Hptm.d.L. Maßmann.

EDIT TO ADD: When requesting information on reserve or Landwehr officers, it would be helpful to include their Meldeamt/Kontrollbezirk if it is known, as this can help narrow down the possibilities.

[Melax]

Thanks Dave

PS: is it possible to see if this (bad quality) piucture is Massmann ? could the ribbons match?

[Rossano]

Hello Dave
To Your note :
"EDIT TO ADD: When requesting information on reserve or Landwehr officers it would be helpful to include their Meldeamt/Kontrollbezirk if it is known"
Unfortunately about Hptm. d.L. Ing. Maßmann there was no add. data (Stadt,WMA,Bez.,WK.) in PV.
Apart that do You have maybe the Oberst (RDA. 1.1.41 (2)) Grosser, and also a misterious Oberst Paßmann Rolf ? (In Hans´ list there is an Art.Otl. Paßmann Karl, nothing on him too ?)

[Dave Danner]

The Feldspange shows the 1914 EK2 with 1939 Spange, the Ehrenkreuz für Frontkämpfer, and the Treudienst-Ehrenzeichen for civil servants. If it is him, it would indicate he did not get the Fürstlich reußisches Ehrenkreuz, but I can't say one way or the other.

Grosser is Johann, *3.8.1895. I will post a bio later. I don't have anything on Paßmann.

[Melax]

thanks again Dave

[Melax]

Just got some new informations, from the Landesarchiv Potsdam:


Hauptmann d.R. Walter Massmann

* 04.02.1891 in Lobenstein/Fürstentum Reuß (Thüringen)
† ??.??.????

Vater: (wahrscheinlich Karl Massmann, Oberbaurat a.D.)
Mutter: Elisabeth geb. Scholtz

oo xx.xx.xxxx Hanna Iwand (?-?)
wohl keine Kinder


Eintritt ins Heer 1914, Art.Reg. 75 (Halle/Saale)

1915 Unteroffizier und Geschützführer
1915 Offizierslehrgang
1916 Wachtmeister (Dave has him as Leutnant since 24.10.1915)
1916 Leutnant und Batterieführer Altmärkisches Feldartillerie-Regiment Nr. 40

1938 Oberleutnant
1939 Hauptmann (bis Kriegsende !)

1933-1936 SA-Mitglied
1933-1945 NSDAP-Mitglied

1939-1941 Batteriechef AR 208 (Polen, Frankreich)
1941-1943 Batteriechef 1./HKAA 903 (Rumänien, Ukraine)
1943-1945 Heereswaffenamt in Berlin & Wolfrathshausen
xx.1945 amerikanische Kriegsgefangenschaft
09.1945 aus amerikanischer Kriegsgefangenschaft entlassen

the officer on the picture is him indead

---

Rossano, do you have him with the Heereswaffenamt in your list by chance?


thanks,
Alexander

[Jan-Hendrik]

6./AR 208 was Stamm for HKAA 903! Kdr. was Major Dr. Wilhem Czernak.

Source:

Uwes Vol.15

Jan-Hendrik

[Melax]

Hi Jan,

yes I know, Czermak was my grandfathers cousin

Alexander