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Post by Michael Miller » 09 Sep 2003, 21:14

Kocjo~

Could you possibly post your photo of SS-Staf. Lurker?

Thanks in advance.

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Post by K.Kocjancic » 09 Sep 2003, 21:24

Michael Miller wrote:Kocjo~

Could you possibly post your photo of SS-Staf. Lurker?

Thanks in advance.

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Still don't have a scener sorry.


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Post by K.Kocjancic » 17 Sep 2003, 12:48

Michael Miller wrote:Kocjo~

Could you possibly post your photo of SS-Staf. Lurker?

Thanks in advance.

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Here is it! :) :D
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Post by Michael Miller » 17 Sep 2003, 15:55

Excellent photo! Thank you!

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Post by K.Kocjancic » 17 Sep 2003, 16:00

Can you tell which class is it?

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First Class Order.

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Post by Edward L. Hsiao » 18 Sep 2003, 23:31

Hello There!

The Croatian Crown of King Zwonimir 1st Class is what this SD officer is wearing.

Edward

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Post by K.Kocjancic » 18 Sep 2003, 23:39

Edward L. Hsiao wrote:Hello There!

The Croatian Crown of King Zwonimir 1st Class is what this SD officer is wearing.

Edward
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Ernst Deutsch

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Post by Edward L. Hsiao » 05 Dec 2003, 00:47

Gentlemen!

A possible good candidate for the Croatian Iron Trefoil First Class is SS-Standartenführer Ernst Deutsch,C.O. of SS-Frw. Gebirgsjäger Rgt. 13/"Prinz Eugen" He was a holder of the German Cross in Gold.
I'm sure there were high ranking SS officers of the 4. SS-Polizei-Grenadier Division in the Southeastern Front that had been awarded either the Croatian Iron Trefoil I. Class or the King Zwonimir Crown I. Class. :)

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and an other one too

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Post by Dieter Zinke » 05 Dec 2003, 21:08

Hi,
I'm sure there is also another recipient of an "Halsorden" from Croatia

This is Generalarzt der Reserve z.V. Hofrat Prof. Dr. med. Hans von Haberer-Kremshohenstein

I saw a picture showing him in the "Wehrmedizinische Rundschau" (date?)
sitting beside Generalarzt der Reserve Geheimrat Prof. Dr. med. Ferdinand Sauerbruch (both with the KC, -i.e. Sauerbruchs KVK) in Vienna. There was an anniversary festive hour in the university (50 years after the death of the developper of the ventricle-resection Prof. Theodor Billroth).

Von Haberer, the director of the chir. clinic in Cologne (previously in Düsseldorf, Graz, Innsbruck and also Vienna) was for a short time at the university of Agram (Zagreb) as guest.

There is a med. dissertation describing him (Dissertation der Medizinischen Fakultät der Universität Köln) also with declaration of all his decorations.

Please contact for the dissertation [email protected]

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Post by Dieter Zinke » 06 Dec 2003, 10:52

Requin Marteau wrote:Generalleutnant Helmuth von Pannwitz received a Order of the Crown of King Zvonimir 1. kl mit Stern u. Schwertern.

Thierry
Hi Thierry,

I don't think so. In his personal file, tere is nothing about this, but: 00.12.1942 "Kgl. Rumän. Orden Michael der Tapfere, III. Class".

From Romania, not from Croatia

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Two Possible Ones

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Post by Edward L. Hsiao » 13 Jan 2004, 07:03

Hi Fellows!

Two more possible holders of the Croatian Iron Trefoil 1st Class and Croatian King Zwonimir Crown 1st Class from the Kriegsmarine. :idea:

FKpt. Herbert Max Schultz who commanded the First Schnellboot-Division from July 1943 to March 1945 in the Adriatic Sea.

FKpt. Felix Fischer who commanded the 21st U-Boot-Jagd-Flottille from August 1944 to October 1944. I forgot which area the flottille operates.

I'm still having a "soar throat" which means longing for a neck order not just the Knight's Cross. It's not for me but for those Germans who might be a holder of a neck order! :lol:

Sincerely,

Edward :)

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Post by K.Kocjancic » 09 Apr 2004, 12:11

Hi!

Could you make a list, so that we know, which one you already have?

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Post by K.Kocjancic » 09 Apr 2004, 12:15

SS-Oberf. Dr. Kurt-Peter Müller, Divisionsarzt of the 7. SS-Frw.Geb.Div. "Prinz Eugen" was awarded:
"Kreuz Erster Klasse mit Schwertern" or "Großkreuz mit Schwertern und Bruststern" of Zvonimir orden.

Source: Kumm: 7. SS-Frw.Geb.Div. "Prinz Eugen" im Bild, page 26

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Post by K.Kocjancic » 09 Apr 2004, 12:19

Another:

SS-Ostubaf. Zimmermann, CO of SS-Pion.Btl. 7; Kreuz Erste Klasse mit Schwertern of Zvonimir orden

Source: Kumm: 7. SS-Frw.Geb.Div. "Prinz Eugen" im Bild, page 106

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Post by Stauffenberg II » 09 Apr 2004, 12:21

It would be easier to obtain the whole list from the President of Croatia than playing around (struggling) with some uncertain names.

I have tried to get that info, too, by contacting the Decoration and Awards Office:
http://www.predsjednik.hr/default.asp?r ... a=&jezik=2
http://www.predsjednik.hr/default.asp?r ... a=&jezik=2

So far no success. Again would be a job for a Croatian. It´s time to get that award lists once and for all.

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