indecipherable signatures
indecipherable signatures
Hello
In the last years I' ve been collecting many indecipherable signatures of german Heeres-Offiziere. Now I want to open here this topic for various reasons (first because here i usually post all my questions regarding Heeres-Offiziere, then because here I know + invite Askropp, Dave and all other pen friends + signatures experts to help/cooperate)
To begin with I attach below the first signature (which Graf is it ?)
In particular, what is the first capital letter ?
Then are the 3rd and fifth letters "h" or/and "g" or "f" or what ? Finally, is the line as 4th letter a "c" or "e" or what ?
Thanks in advance to all participants
In the last years I' ve been collecting many indecipherable signatures of german Heeres-Offiziere. Now I want to open here this topic for various reasons (first because here i usually post all my questions regarding Heeres-Offiziere, then because here I know + invite Askropp, Dave and all other pen friends + signatures experts to help/cooperate)
To begin with I attach below the first signature (which Graf is it ?)
In particular, what is the first capital letter ?
Then are the 3rd and fifth letters "h" or/and "g" or "f" or what ? Finally, is the line as 4th letter a "c" or "e" or what ?
Thanks in advance to all participants
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Re: indecipherable signatures
As I already said, it is important to know which document they signed and in which function. The signature alone will be difficult to identify.
There are times in history when staying neutral means taking sides.
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I am now adding the requested info, but as I believe that such info will bring to no positive solution, I rather hope that somebody will be able to simply identify at least some letters, as I asked to, so that I can then maybe get the proper name.
So, this Graf was 3.44 a Maj. and Lehrgr.Kdr. at the Fjk.Lehrg. IV d. Pz.Tr..
Does somebody have/know who is this officer in this position or can rather suggest his name by his signature ?
So, this Graf was 3.44 a Maj. and Lehrgr.Kdr. at the Fjk.Lehrg. IV d. Pz.Tr..
Does somebody have/know who is this officer in this position or can rather suggest his name by his signature ?
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I checked all Grafen in the 1944 DAL, but I found no candidate. I would expect an active officer in this position, but maybe he wasn't.
There are times in history when staying neutral means taking sides.
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What about this one ?
Who led (Otl. ? ) in febr. 43 the remnants of the 385.ID ?
If he/this is not known, which name do You read in the signature ?
Thanks for the name or suggestion
Who led (Otl. ? ) in febr. 43 the remnants of the 385.ID ?
If he/this is not known, which name do You read in the signature ?
Thanks for the name or suggestion
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Probably not, but could the Graf above be V i tz t h u m (tz attached in one letter similar to h) ???
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A new one, Is this officer known or is his signature decipherable ?
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Maybe one of the Reimanns? Just a guess.
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Hello
In T79 R87 I found the following signatures. Can somebody decipher then ?
Thanks
000) 1.43 b.d. 187.Res.Div.
415) 8.43 b. WK. XVII
418) 9.43 b. WK. XVII
540) 9.43 Kdr. Streif.Dienst b. Wehrm.Kdt. Wien
543) 11.43 b. Wehrm.Kdt. Wien
561) 9.43 Kdr. Streif.Dienst b. WK.XVII
566) 9.43 Kdr. Art.E.u.A.Rgt.44
In T79 R87 I found the following signatures. Can somebody decipher then ?
Thanks
000) 1.43 b.d. 187.Res.Div.
415) 8.43 b. WK. XVII
418) 9.43 b. WK. XVII
540) 9.43 Kdr. Streif.Dienst b. Wehrm.Kdt. Wien
543) 11.43 b. Wehrm.Kdt. Wien
561) 9.43 Kdr. Streif.Dienst b. WK.XVII
566) 9.43 Kdr. Art.E.u.A.Rgt.44
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the 2 missing
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Strange that nobody will at least try to give me some name suggestions on the above signatures. Pls.
Enclosed find 3 more. Thanks for any help
Enclosed find 3 more. Thanks for any help
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No answers ? Incredible.......Shall I move all to the topic signatures ?
Anybody has/knows the Kdr. d. Pi.Btls.217 aug. 41 or can decipher his signatures ?
Anybody has/knows the Kdr. d. Pi.Btls.217 aug. 41 or can decipher his signatures ?
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Re: indecipherable signatures
Hi Rossano,
First let me say: I hate signatures, if it´s not clearly signed, it´s almost a pure guess.
Besides, your topic says "indecipherable signatures".
If I shall take a guess, I would say:
#10: first one "Samer"" The second one...?
#11: Hauptmann Wendt. The second one....? the third one starts with An....lans?
#12: Kdr. Pi.Btl 217 Wiest?
Hope this helps a little bit.
Best Regards
Armin
First let me say: I hate signatures, if it´s not clearly signed, it´s almost a pure guess.
Besides, your topic says "indecipherable signatures".
If I shall take a guess, I would say:
#10: first one "Samer"" The second one...?
#11: Hauptmann Wendt. The second one....? the third one starts with An....lans?
#12: Kdr. Pi.Btl 217 Wiest?
Hope this helps a little bit.
Best Regards
Armin
"Ihr verfluchten Racker, wollt ihr denn ewig leben?" Friedrich, II. in der Schlacht von Kolin am 18.Juni 1757 zu seinen zurückgehenden Grenadieren.
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Thanks for trying. I´ll check all........
I hope somebody else will join.......
I hope somebody else will join.......
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Hello
I read "von (or Dr.?) Rudlef (or Rudlof)" but in Internet I found no such names
So, what else can this name be ? Or, who has/knows the Kdr. AA.217 in june 40 ?
Thanks
I read "von (or Dr.?) Rudlef (or Rudlof)" but in Internet I found no such names
So, what else can this name be ? Or, who has/knows the Kdr. AA.217 in june 40 ?
Thanks
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