Award List - Romanian Order of Michael the Brave

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Post by Victor » 03 Aug 2003, 20:58

Sorry, I could not find the royal decree which awarded him the Order.
USAF1986 wrote: 38. cpt. Schneider: 3rd class by Royal Decree no. 1362/8 May 1942 (liaison officer to the 4th Mountain Division)
81. cpt. Erwin Schneider: 3rd class by Royal Decree no. 361/15 February 1943 (liaison officer 4th Mountain Division; see no. 38 )
Maybe there was a mistake in the book-keeping? I do not know. But, as I said, the same class of the same version was never awarded twice.
USAF1986 wrote: 39. cpt. Hans Dieter Schiel: 3rd class by Royal Decree no. 1362/8 May 1942 (70th Pioneer Battalion)
67. lt. Hans Dietrich Scheil: 3rd class by Royal Decree no. 3035/6 October 1942 (post mortem; 70th Pioneer Battalion; see no. 39 in the list)
This award was later canceled, as I mentioned.
USAF1986 wrote: 133. 2nd lt. Egbert von Stuemer: 3rd class by Royal Decree no. 712/30 March 1944 (?)
134. 2nd lt. Egbert von Stuemer: 3rd class by Royal Decree no. 721/30 March 1944 (?)
That is obviously my mistake. A Copy and Paste mistake that is. The correct decree is 712, not 721.
USAF1986 wrote: surprisingly, Oberst (later Generalleutnant) Karl-Albrecht von Groddeck did not die from his wounds in May 1942! Although badly wounded while commanding the Motorized Brigade “Groddeck” in the Crimea – his regular position was commander of Infantry Regiment 120 (Motorized) – von Groddeck remained in hospital and reserve status until 10 July 1943. At that time, he took temporary command of the 11th Infantry Division followed by command of the 161st Infantry Division on 22 August 1943. He was severely wounded again on 28 August 1943 and died in a hospital in Breslau on 10 January 1944. I reread the applicable chapter in Lost Victories and noted von Manstein said that von Groddeck was mortally wounded in May 1942.
Interesting.
As a side note, col. Radu Korne (later brig. gen.) took over after Groddek was wounded (well he already commanded most of the brigade, the Korne Motorized Detachment that is). Korne was also wounded, but lighter and could lead his formation to Kerch.
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#32

Post by USAF1986 » 03 Aug 2003, 20:58

USAF1986 wrote: Just curious, is that the correct date for number 25 (Jeschonnek). It seems as of the date is out of sequence compared to the decree numbers.
You're quite correct, I was looking at the wrong line when I wrote that!

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Post by Stauffenberg II » 04 Aug 2003, 01:35

8O Three days away and suddenly ...

... a whole award list in online. Thank you very much Victor!

Could you also give sources for the recipients of the

Crown of Romania and the
Star of Romania?

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Post by Victor » 04 Aug 2003, 07:30

Sorry, no. At least not yet. Maybe I will manage to get my hands on some documents soon and I will look also for foreign receivers, not only Romanian airmen. But I don't promise anything.

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Post by Dan E. Moe » 04 Aug 2003, 12:36

If I'm not mistaken, Mannerheim, then a general of the Imperial Russian Army, also received a WWI issue of the Order of Michael the Brave, 3rd Class for the defense of the Transylvanian Alps during the fighting in Romania, 1916-1917. As Mannerheim later recollected (and somewhat complained!) in his memoirs:[/quote]


I thought that Mannerheim served with the German army during 1st World war, Did he do that after the the communist took over Russia?

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Post by USAF1986 » 04 Aug 2003, 19:49

Carl Gustaf Emil Mannerheim joined the Imperial Russian Army as a cavalryman in 1888. During WWI, he commanded a cavalry brigade, the 12th Cavalry Division and later a cavalry corps. In September 1917, he transferred to the officer reserve and, on 1 January 1918, resigned from the Imperial Russian Army due to the independence of Finland – he had been offered command of the army of Finland. During Finland’s War of Independence, the Finns were aided by German forces under Generalmajor Rüdiger Graf von der Goltz. As seen in many photos, Mannerheim received the Iron Cross 1st and 2nd Classes during this period.

Of note, Mannerheim reached the rank of Lieutenant-General in the Imperial Russian Army and, among other Russian decorations, received the coveted Order of St. George, 4th Class (see picture) and the Sword of St. George during WWI.

This website is highly recommended; a very detailed and well-done biography of Marshal of Finland Mannerheim!

http://www.mannerheim.fi/

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Post by Stauffenberg II » 05 Aug 2003, 10:52

Gen. Lt. Rupp
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Post by USAF1986 » 05 Aug 2003, 17:24

Here is Luftwaffe GM Dipl. Ing. Gerhard Bassenge displaying what appears to be the ribbon of his Romanian Order of Michael the Brave, 3rd Class à la the EK II through his buttonhole. The top of the upraised wings of the Romanian Air Force Pilot’s Badge can be seen next to his German Cross in Gold.

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Post by Stauffenberg II » 07 Aug 2003, 18:17

106. col Johannes Steffler: 3rd class by Royal Decree no. 1438/20 May 1943 (4th Corps)
The award must be seen de facto posthumously. Obst. i. G. Johannes Steffler, the former Ia 1. Infanteriedivision, died in a Soviet POW-Camp on 21.03.1943.

Source: Deutsche Kriegsgräberfürsorge
Nachname: Steffler
Vorname: Johannes Konrad
Dienstgrad: Oberst
Geburtsdatum: 21.05.1899
Geburtsort: Glatz
Todes-/Vermisstendatum: 21.03.1943
Todesort: Kgf.Lag. Frolowo

Johannes Konrad Steffler ist vermutlich als unbekannter Soldat auf die Kriegsgräberstätte in Rossoschka-Sammelfriedhof (Rußland) überführt worden.
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Post by Stauffenberg II » 08 Aug 2003, 00:27

Maybe the Mieth pic doesn´t show Mieth?

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Post by USAF1986 » 08 Aug 2003, 00:41

Although a poor image (scanned from a Xeroxed copy of Mieth's service record) for comparison, I believe that's Mieth in the photo displaying the 3rd Class.

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Post by USAF1986 » 29 Sep 2003, 18:46

RE #66 on the list (Oberstleutnant Ludwig Zoller): I’ve been stumped by this officer for a while. I was going through my recently acquired copy of Die Dienstlaufbahnen der Offiziere des Generalstabes des deutschen Heeres, 1935-1945, Band 2: L-Z (Biblio Verlag, Osnabrück, Germany, 1998) by Christian Zweng and found the following officer that appears to fit the bill:

Oberst Ludwig Zöller (born 16.03.1903)
Oberst: 01.05.1943 (1b)
EK I

28.08.1939: Operations Officer (Ia) of the 254th Infantry Division.
30.09.1940: 4th General Staff Officer (Id) on the General Staff of the German Army Mission in Romania (on 16.04.1941 Ia).
01.06.1941: Operations Officer (Ia) on the General Staff of the LIV Army Corps.
19.08.1941: Sick, Army High Command Leader Reserve.
15.09.1941: Operations Officer (Ia) on the General Staff of the German Army Mission in Romania.
10.09.1942: Chief of the General Staff of the German Army Mission in Romania.
20.01.1943: Army High Command Leader Reserve, duties determined by the Commander-in-Chief of Army Group Don; employed as the Chief of the General Staff of General Command z.b.V. Mieth.
20.07.1943: Chief of the General Staff of the IV Army Corps.
10.10.1943: Army High Command Leader Reserve, duties determined by the Army Personnel Officer (P 3).
05.01.1944: Chief of the General Staff of the LXXXVI Army Corps.
15.04.1945: Army High Command Leader Reserve.

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#43

Post by Stauffenberg II » 29 Sep 2003, 20:02

Great job Shawn!

I´m still wondering about the award for Gen. d. Art. Lindemann, which was cancelled later. I can´t imagine how this happened exactly.

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Post by Stauffenberg II » 29 Sep 2003, 20:29

I try to deliver a theory.

Maybe there were two decrees regarding Lindemann like there were two for Schiel. Maybe the 2nd decree for Lindemann is not mentioned in the book. Maybe only the 2nd decree for Lindemann was cancelled like it happened with Schiel.

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Post by Victor » 04 Nov 2005, 15:47

Victor wrote: 1. gen. Eugen Ritter von Schobert: 3rd class by Royal Decree no. 2355 bis/22 August 1941 (CO of 11th Army)
2. lt. gen. Erik Hansen: 3rd class by Royal Decree no. 2355 bis/22 August 1941 (CO 54th Corps)
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13. lt. gen. Mattenklett: 3rd class by Royal Decree no. 2628/19 September 1941 (?)
Antonescu decorated Schobert and Hansen with the Mihai Viteazul Order 3rd class on 2 August 1941, at Fauresti, a village Northeast of Chisinau

The following day, on 3 August 1941, he had a meeting with Franz Mattenklott, during an inspection of the Romanian 15th and German 72nd Divisions and awarded gim with the same order.

Obviously the decrees were issued later, as mentioned in a previous post.

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