Knight's Cross Holders Identification

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Postby Elwyn W » 15 Jan 2006 14:10

Hi Dieter,

I managed to identify these: / AHF id

1. Fritz Henke (perhaps, blocked)
2. Bruno Bogert
3. Anton Bayer
4. Ruprecht Kral
5. Theodor Hotzy
6. Willi Schaffner (perhaps, blocked)
7. Otto Reichold
8. Siegfried Amerkamp (perhaps, blocked)
9. Adolf Stück
10. Heinrich Kaup
11. Not mentioned and blocked
12. Heinrich Schneider
13. Alois Lehrkinder


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See viewtopic.php?f=5&t=29879&start=6060
from Tue Jan 18, 2011 5:11 pm
Bart V. wrote: Page 105. (11.) could be Andreas Greiner.
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Postby Dieter Zinke » 15 Jan 2006 14:55

What a powerful team !! I' m proud of you, dear experts !!

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Postby Elwyn W » 15 Jan 2006 17:25

More from Ebay:

Second one said Karl Paul??

The first I altered the color to show the signature.

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Postby Denis » 16 Jan 2006 08:36

freiherr wrote:Hi Dieter,

I managed to identify these:

1. Fritze Henke (perhaps, blocked)
2. Bruno Bogert
3. Not Rudolf Bayer, but I have seen this man around...it will take some time, or Denis or Herbert may help
4. Ruprecht Kral
5. Theodor Hotzy
6. Willi Schaffner (perhaps, blocked)
7. Otto Reichold
8. Siegfried Amerkamp (perhaps, blocked)
9. Adolf Stück
10. Heinrich Kaup
11. Not mentioned and blocked
12. Heinrich Schneider
13. Alois Lehrkinder


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Freiherr


This is Anton Bayer.
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Postby Denis » 16 Jan 2006 08:37

freiherr wrote:More from Ebay:

Second one said Karl Paul??

The first I altered the color to show the signature.

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Freiherr

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The second RKT is Karl Pabst.
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Denis

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Postby ritterpanzer » 16 Jan 2006 11:14

Hello!

RK77= Generalmajor Johannes BRUHN

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Pedro.

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Postby Elwyn W » 16 Jan 2006 14:03

Thank you both Denis and Pedro.

But just to be clear, Denis is referring to the skinny RKT being Karl Pabst (and there were two: this was the GebJg) and I have since dug out an inferior quality picture of Pabst -- same signature and the images agreed.

The signature of the hefty fellow in the RK verleihung remains unidentified.

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Postby Gareth Collins » 16 Jan 2006 14:07

Biblio2= Generalleutnant Werner Anton
Biblio11 = poss. Franz Mattenklott? EDIT: scrub that, it is Betzel
Biblio12 = Officer saluting on right looks like Bruno Frankewitz
findrkt9a0lh.jpg=Officer awarding looks bit like Ritter von Thoma, but the camo is making me doubt myself.
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Postby Denis » 16 Jan 2006 14:38

Hello

Biblio9 : this should be a RK Verleihung from members of the KG 53

From left to right (only KC holders)
- the Ofw should be Karl Christmann (to be confirmed since I don't have any pic for him)
- the tall officer : Heinz Gutmann
- the officer whose the face is partially hidden by his visor cap : Heinz Zöllner (to be confirmed since I don't have any pic for him)
- the next one : Ernst-Ascan Gobert
- the following one : Johann Dreher (to confirm)
- then a Major (already RKT) : maybe Karl Rauer (ie The Gruppenkommandeur of the I/KG 53)
The picture would have been taken at the beginning of April, 1944 in Germany.

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Postby Gareth Collins » 16 Jan 2006 19:04

Dieter,
4, 5, 6 are all the same ceremony like Miha stated. The officer presenting the awards (with glasses) is Walther Wadehn which makes them Fallschirmjäger, not Flieger, so the I.D.'s may be off. I suspect it's from 3. Fallschirmjäger-Division which Wadehn was in command from Aug 1944-Jan 1945.

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Postby Miha Grcar » 16 Jan 2006 19:09

Hi Gareth,

I would support my statement with the "Legion Condor" cuff titles and pilot's badges they both wear.

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Postby Gareth Collins » 16 Jan 2006 19:32

Miha Grcar wrote:Hi Gareth,

I would support my statement with the "Legion Condor" cuff titles and pilot's badges they both wear.

best,
Miha


I'm just trying to find a link between Wadehn & the Ritterkreuzträger. After 1941 (with the DKiG it'd need to be post 41) Wadehn commanded training or ground units. You have an excellent point with the LC cuffs though. My apologies.

Another possible for the officer is Walter Boenicke. Any links there between him & KG53?

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Postby Miha Grcar » 17 Jan 2006 13:40

Hi Gareth,

Walter Boenicke was the commander of the 3.Flieger Division and got his RK on 14.5.1944. The ceremony in the photos show the ceremony from 29.2.1944 and the awarding general without an RK (you could have a match there), but when could KG 53 be linked to 3.Flieger Division I could not find anything - no Oob which I could find shows any link of subordination.

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Postby Denis » 18 Jan 2006 09:02

freiherr wrote:From left to right:

Erhard Raus, Josef Rhein, ???


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The RKT at far right is FW Jürgen.
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Postby Elwyn W » 18 Jan 2006 12:41

Awesome, Denis. Scherzer's pic was horrible.

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