Knight's Cross Holders Identification

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Re: Knight's Cross Holders Identification

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Post by Bernd R » 11 Feb 2009, 19:56

Someone from Kharkov,

one clear and two hm, thanks :)
I have captioned Horst Müller, II./KG 76, a double pic.

Löwe I wanted to keep in reserve, not 100% about that, re: Hein I'm not convinced and would like to re-ask.

The Nicolussi-Leck / Hein correction :
http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic. ... 91#p649691
The man on the pic in question is wearing a HJ badge. None of the three Hein pics we have already shows that badge. ?? . Also, doesn't the (sloppy) cap style speak for Nicolussi-Leck ? So, hmm, are you 100% ? Do others confirm Hein ?

The Erich Löwe case :
can nearly drive one mad - or it is very much clear. Löwe was presented to be Löwe for sure by Elwyn (Federl book)
Erich Löwe
and was identified to be Löwe, too, indeed
pic in question : http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic. ... 12#p515312
later, 2x Löwe : http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic. ... 4#p1278044
and one more time (see my follow-up post, too) : http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic. ... 4#p1266524

Elwyn once said about the pic in question :
I suspect what you posted as Löwe was not him but Mj Richard Laukat, Kdr II/ArtRgt 103/ 4Pz. He resembled Löwe but Löwe was just a little heavier.
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My pic is Löwe -- it comes from Christian Federl's "Die Ritterkreuzträger der Deutsche Panzerdivisionen" and I have found it to be totally accurate so far. I had your pic down as Löwe too initially from, I think, a French website that talked about 23rd Pz quite a bit. But I noticed the difference and subsequently found one caption that said your pic is Laukat. I will keep an eye out. Fortunately 4Pz was probably the most well photographed and documented Pz Div.

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Freiherr
Well, is in a single pic of the Löwe pics NOT Löwe ?
And, has someone LAUKAT for comparisn ?

Best regards
Bernd

PS: just seen the other ids, great ! My request about Löwe needed too much time. :oops:

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Re: Knight's Cross Holders Identification

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Post by Bernd R » 11 Feb 2009, 21:07

Panknin and the "Immelmann" group pic done. Thanks / Bernd


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Re: Knight's Cross Holders Identification

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Post by Someone from Kharkov » 12 Feb 2009, 09:20

Bernd,
I agree that Nicolussi-Leck/Hein case is still debatable. But as regards to Löwe, I'm sure 101% :)

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Post by John Toner » 12 Feb 2009, 16:10

I also believe it to be Loewe based on many other photos of the man.

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Re: Knight's Cross Holders Identification

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Post by John Toner » 13 Feb 2009, 11:59

I think that RKT 4 posted by Freiherr on 23 August 2003 is Ulrich von Canstein.

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Post by John Toner » 13 Feb 2009, 12:05

On the subject of Löwe/Laukat, here is a Kai Winkler picture of Laukat for comparison.

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Re: Knight's Cross Holders Identification

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Post by Bernd R » 13 Feb 2009, 15:25

Thanks John ! I find it very hard to differentiate from the facial features. They really look similar. But here are many very good in that and perhaps another comment comes in on this aspect. At the end of the day my vote is 100% nevertheless. :) And, Someone from Kharkov, I buy your 101% of course.
I found another argument for Löwe. The Bundesarchiv caption says summer 1941 - Laukat received the KC in Oct 41 (though the BA captions are to handle with care).
As this is the almost unanimous id right now I have taken the best quality pics (p 228) on the index and captioned all others (pp. 45, 47, 220) with Löwe. Laukat taken on the index, too.

/ Bernd

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Re: Knight's Cross Holders Identification

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Post by Bernd R » 13 Feb 2009, 16:15

John Toner wrote:I think that RKT 4 posted by Freiherr on 23 August 2003 is Ulrich von Canstein.

John
John, let me say hm.., please.
This is another one from the reserve issues. Other colleagues said von Canstein, too. Freiherr says definitely No. http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic. ... 42#p400642
He was captured by British troops in Bremerhaven - if this is the story of the pic, there is a mismatch concerning von Canstein. If I'm correct his last postion was Kdr. Reiter-Regiment 41. The cavalry surrendered to the British (!) in Austria.
http://www.historic.de/Militar/Personen ... nstein.htm
A few times I asked myself who could be an officer with Stug wrapper in Bremerhaven. No clue.
The id itself looks ok to me. :?

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Re: Knight's Cross Holders Identification

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Post by Ruslan M » 13 Feb 2009, 16:47

Page 92,

RKT28.jpg Not Rudolf Schniewindt, he was never RKT holder. It's General der Artillerie Johann Sinnhuber.


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Re: Knight's Cross Holders Identification

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Post by graveland » 13 Feb 2009, 20:46

Bernd,

I am very sorry, but I think that I forget the pages for the new IDs. I will try to find them. By the way, a new man...

- Page 239: Günther Hoffmann-Schoenborn (Bundesarchiv_Bild_101I-140-1207-37,_Russland,_Soldaten_auf_Schützenpanzer.jpg)

Kind regards,

Gregg.

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Re: Knight's Cross Holders Identification

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Post by John Toner » 14 Feb 2009, 05:40

Here are two un-named RKTs from the Bundesarchiv images. Does anyone recognise them?
Thanks
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Re: Knight's Cross Holders Identification

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Post by John Toner » 14 Feb 2009, 05:47

Hello Berndt

Thanks for the comment about Canstein. The only other image I have of the man is the enclosed drawing (source: Lexikon der Wehrmacht). I think there is a strong resemblance.

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Re: Knight's Cross Holders Identification

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Post by Someone from Kharkov » 14 Feb 2009, 08:40

Unknown from Bundesarchiv.jpg
Stabsarzt Dr. Hans Joachim Schulz-Merkel, Oberstleutnant Ernst Wilhelm Hoffmann

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Re: Knight's Cross Holders Identification

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Post by John Toner » 14 Feb 2009, 09:44

Thanks very much. This is from the same source.
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Re: Knight's Cross Holders Identification

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Post by Someone from Kharkov » 14 Feb 2009, 09:49

Ingo wrote:Unknown Marine-RKT.
It's Friedrich Guggenberger

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