Österreichs Generale im Deutschen Heer 1938-1945

[iggy88]

Re Johann Tarbuk, Edler von Sensenhorst:
Just a small addition. Per the KTB for 369. ID, he was briefly Kommandeur des Aufstellungsstabes der 369. (kroat.) Infanterie-Division from 29 Aug 1942 until the Auflösung of the Aufstellungsstab on 1 Sep 1942.

[iggy88]

Re Hermann Bacher:
A few additions/corrections from the KTB of Befehlshaber Straße Kertsch.
Höherer Pionierführer für den Übergang Kertsch (06 Feb 1943-29 Apr 1943)
Erholungsurlaub (29 Apr 1943-29 Mai 1943)
m.d.F.b., Generalkommando z.b.V. von Förster (29 Mai 1943-15 Jun 1943) (for Förster's Urlaub)
zugleich, m.d.W.d.G.b. Befehlshaber Straße Kertsch (29 Mai 1943-15 Jun 1943) (for Förster's Urlaub)

[askropp]

A while ago, I thought that Pummerer was a Luftwaffe officer because I discovered he was mentioned as such in the Personalveränderungen from May 1943. But now, I read his card in the Generalskartei and he was obviously a Heer officer after all (see also the photo). The card says:

14.11.1939 Beauftragter der Waffenabteilung in der Amtsgruppe für Industrielle Rüstung / Waffen und Gerät im Heereswaffenamt (Wa I Rü / WuG 2) zur Betreuung der Industrien in den Bereichen der Rüstungsinspektionen XVII, XVIII, Protektorat und Generalgouvernement
01.12.1942 Führerreserve OKH (XVII)
10.04.1943 Führerreserve OKH (WaA) [see the corresponding Personalveränderung]

Now, although Pummerer was ostensibly placed into the FR, he must have continued his work for the Waffenamt as we have a continuous stream of Beurteilungen (from February 1941 to March 1944) by General Leeb and the Chefs of the Waffenabteilung, Hans Leyers and Eugen Kurz. They all praise his invaluable service for the Abteilung. Apparentlly, neither Pummerer's Mob.-Verwendung nor his z.V.-Stellung were ever rescinded.

30.01.1942 KVK II mit Schwertern

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[Frech]

Dear Askropp,

thank you very much it´s an interesting information. Would you mind to provide the card for my collection?

Kindest

Christian

[askropp]

1.) As his Karteikarte calls him "Matthias", may I ask if the spelling "Mathias" is confirmed by original sources? Jake?

2.) Jake, in the "Dates of Death" thread, you spoke in favor of Rajon Welisch as the probable area of death (rather than Tschernigow-Gomel) because you attributed Arko 125 to VI. AK which was operating near Welisch. But my sources indicate that Arko 126 belonged to VI. AK and that Arko 125 was subordinated to LVI. Panzerkorps, which was indeed operating near Tschernigow-Gomel. Maybe a note of Raab's disappearance could be found in the KTB of LVI. PzK, but it is not yet available online. On his card, "20.09.1943" is given as the date on which he went missing (added in handwriting).

[JakeV]

Hello,

All primary sources (that is, the Taufeintrag and both the Trauungseinträge of his two marriages) invariably use the spelling Mathias Josef Otto Raab.

By the way, some more genealogical information:

* 15.06.1885 in Laas (Gemeinde Flattach)/Bezirk Spittal an der Drau/Kärnten

Eltern: Volksschul-Lehrer (zuletzt Oberlehrer in Grades) Mathias Raab (* 17.07.1853 in Geras/Niederösterreich; † 26.08.1941 in Klagenfurt) & Josefine, geb. Archer (* 01.08.1858 in St. Veit an der Glan; † 03.07.1950 in Klagenfurt)

1. Heirat am 13.09.1917 in Buchenberg/Steiermark mit Adolfine, geb. Schwab (* 10.05.1892 in Wohancic/Mähren; † 23.02.1919 in Buchenberg/Steiermark)
[Raab's first marriage ended in quite a tragic way, as his first wife died of pulmonary tuberculosis approximately one month after giving birth to a daughter that died shortly after birth.]
2. Heirat am 03.04.1924 in Villach mit Elvira, geb. Koban (* 06.05.1903 in Villach; † 06.10.1965 in Klagenfurt)

As for the question of his death, I was confident in citing that website, as the informations available to me at the time made the version of Welisch more likely.

A somewhat perplexing question arises from the official Beurkundung of his death:

Declared dead with 17.03.1943, effective as of 15.04.1947, according to the decision of the Landesgericht Klagenfurt in 1947; The Sterbeurkunde was issued by the Sterberegister Wien Innere Stadt-Mariahilf Nr. 2365/1947. Why the date of 17.03. was chosen, is a mystery to me, as he was surely still alive in March. For example, the commander of Beobachtungs-Abteilung 7 Josef Brennfleck wrote in his diary: "18. März 1943: »Ein Glück ist, daß ich wieder meinen alten General [Raab] habe, der uns sehr schätzt und auch sehr unterstützt«".

Best regards

Jacob

[graveland]

Thank you, boys.

[Rossano]

Hello Jacob
very interesting. As to Beob.Abt.7 already in march 43, how is this possible ? Tessin reads that after Stalingrad a new Abt. 7 was established only by end 43............
Also, as Brennfleck is totally unknown to me, may I have his data (rank + assignments 40-45) ?
Thanks, Rossano

[JakeV]

Yes, you are right, one of my sources was apparently mistaken. The correct Einheit should be the Beobachtungsabteilung 41. As for Brennfleck, I do not have any further data, as the info comes from the biorgaphy Georg Angermaier, 1913-1945 (1994), and not a military history book or an official document.

[Rossano]

OK, now it has more sense. I still missed this Abt. (and its Kdr.), thanks
Can You at least tell me Brennfleck's rank ? It seems unlikely to me that Angermaier mentioned him in his biography without his rank........

[JakeV]

In 1940, his rank was mentioned as Hauptmann and Kommandeur of Beobachtungsabteilung 7 in München.

[Rossano]

Sorry but I have in 1940 other higher officers as Kdre. of Abt.7, maybe was he "in the Abt." or shortly as "a deputy" ? By the way, sure that he commanded in 1943 the Abt.41 ? Source ?

[JakeV]

[Sorry for usurping the thread, maybe the last messages should be split]

As I mentioned above, Brennfleck is mentioned passim in Antonia Leugers: Georg Angermaier, 1913–1945, Matthias-Grünewald-Verlag, 1994. In page 66 is written: Am 7. August wandte sich Miltenberger nach einem Textentwurf von Angermaier an den Kommandeur der BE7 in München, Hauptmann Brennfleck. Apparently, I misread the text again, for the unit is Beobachtungs-Ersatzabteilung 7.

[Rossano]

That' s it at last, many thanks ! One last effort, what' s Your source for him as Kdr. Abt.41 in 43 ?

[JakeV]

A short passage in page 157 that claimed the BA41 enjoyed a very good reputation and reads "Im April [1943] erhielt Brennfleck die Spange zum EK I als Auszeichnung für die Leistungen seiner Abteilung. Im Mai notierte er, sein Wort gelte bei höheren Stellen mehr als das seines Regiments-Kommandeurs".