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Paulus with Reichenau?

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Post by Elwyn W » 30 Nov 2003, 03:25

Found this on Militariaweb.com. Paulus on extreme right. Is it Reichenau sitting down? Any idea who the other guys were? And the staff officers?

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Post by VJK » 30 Nov 2003, 13:24

Hi Freiherr!

Yes, that's definately von Reichenau. Can't help with the others I'm afraid.

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Post by Stauffenberg II » 30 Nov 2003, 13:52

But I may help further!

This group of persons (Reichenau, Paulus and a third to be named) could be the Staff of the 10th or renamed 6th Army in 1939-1940. The third man would then be Gen. d. Art. Anton Freiherr von Mauchenheim genannt Bechtolsheim, the Ia of the Army. Check out Mauchenheims nose at http://www.islandfarm.fsnet.co.uk

This would be the 1st good pic of Mauchenheim.

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Post by VJK » 30 Nov 2003, 14:57

Hi Stauffenberg II !

I think you are on a winner there!! The nose seems to be the same, and the background data all fits. If only the pic was a bit clearer, but I guess one shouldn't be too greedy!!

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Post by Elwyn W » 30 Nov 2003, 16:14

HI Stauffenberg II,

You are Gooooooood! Even a blind squirrel can find its nuts sometimes as they say.

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Post by Steen Ammentorp » 05 Dec 2003, 10:41

Hi,
I was wondering whether the picture was taken at the time of capitulation of the Belgian Army, and the person sitting next to von Reichenau is lieutenant-General O.J.J. Derousseaux, the Belgian DCGS? I also think the man on the LEFT is also a Belgian officer.

LEFT NOT RIGHT :?

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Re: Paulus with Reichenau?

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Post by Dieter Zinke » 05 Dec 2003, 12:12

freiherr wrote:Found this on Militariaweb.com. Paulus on extreme right. Is it Reichenau sitting down? Any idea who the other guys were? And the staff officers?

Cheers
Freiherr



Hi,

the photo was taken on 28.05.1940.
You see from left to right (only the germans apart from von Reichenau and - indeed - Paulus):
Oberleutnant von Luttitz,
Hauptmann Paltzo,
Oberst Anton Reichhard Freiherrr von Mauchenheim genannt von Bechtoldsheim (I a AOK 6)

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Post by Elwyn W » 05 Dec 2003, 15:16

Thanks Oberstab!

Sorry, one more time -- the first guy from the left -standing- or the second guy from the left -sitting next to Reichenau- is a ObLt von Luttittz?

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Post by Dieter Zinke » 05 Dec 2003, 19:35

freiherr wrote:Thanks Oberstab!

Sorry, one more time -- the first guy from the left -standing- or the second guy from the left -sitting next to Reichenau- is a ObLt von Luttittz?

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Freiherr,
I will try it again and have also to do a correction:
left to right: Derousseaux, Hauptmann Paltzo, von Reichenau, Mauchenheim-Bechtoldsheim, Paulus

von Luttitz is not on this picture

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Post by Michael Miller » 05 Dec 2003, 19:44

Would that be the same Paltzo who later served as representative of the Reichspropagandaministerium in the Ukraine?

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Post by Elwyn W » 04 Jul 2005, 00:14

Some very interesting pics from the Pallas collection:

(1) In Pic#1, we now have a better view of Mauchenheim-Bechtoldsheim. There was a very young looking GenMj sitting at the end of the table all the way to the right. Could it possibly be Walter Warlimont? I hesitate because the Belgian surrender was in May 40. Warlimont according to http://www.feldgrau.com was made a GenMj in Aug 40.

(2) In Pic#2, Paulus seems to be now between Reichenau and Derousseaux. Who was the general now on the extreme right? He seemed to have glasses on and he did not have the spange to the EK II.

(3) In Pic#3, alll was said and done. The "IIa" walking out was the same as the one in this!!
http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic. ... er+schuler
But the Belgian officer in the color pic did not look like Derousseaux oo Liagre (I can't find a Liagre. But I already see Pallas having quite a few spelling mistakes )
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Post by Elwyn W » 04 Jul 2005, 00:21

OK, now:

(4) Pic#0, before the ceremony, Derousseaux and "Liagre" going in, Paulus saluting.
(5) Pic#4 "Liagre" coming out.
(6) Pic#5, in the library of the Chateau D'Anvaing. Who was the general on the extreme left?

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Post by J.N. Houterman » 04 Jul 2005, 10:50

The unknown young general is not Warlimont, but Joachim von Kortzfleisch:

Belgian_surrender1.jpg (extreme right)
Belgian_surrender5.jpg (extreme left)

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Post by Elwyn W » 04 Jul 2005, 17:56

Thank you Hans.

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Post by J.N. Houterman » 04 Jul 2005, 18:04

Must admit, though, that I'm not 100 % certain for this photo:
Belgian_surrender5.jpg (extreme left)

I am certain for the other one.

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Hans

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