Awardholders / unit
RE : Michael the Brave, Kommandobehörden, added
RE : Stug
Excellent, Shawn, to go for completion of this section. All added (Fechtel -> 78. Sturm-Div)
Re-organized, now another "all" list on [page 5] : http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic. ... 596#950596
I have added (hopefully) all KC holders ; section prepared for your further additions.
KC, None : 200, 204, 226, 239, 242, 261, 278, 281, 287, 301, 311, 325, 333, 428, 902, 907, 908, 911, 913, 914, 915, 916, 918, 1170, 1180, "Burg"
Added to Lw [page 82] : Fallschirm-Sturmgeschütz-Brigade 12
http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic. ... 29#1089429
Notes on the "unofficial/to confirm" will be added soon.
regards, Bernd
RE : Stug
Excellent, Shawn, to go for completion of this section. All added (Fechtel -> 78. Sturm-Div)
Re-organized, now another "all" list on [page 5] : http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic. ... 596#950596
I have added (hopefully) all KC holders ; section prepared for your further additions.
KC, None : 200, 204, 226, 239, 242, 261, 278, 281, 287, 301, 311, 325, 333, 428, 902, 907, 908, 911, 913, 914, 915, 916, 918, 1170, 1180, "Burg"
Added to Lw [page 82] : Fallschirm-Sturmgeschütz-Brigade 12
http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic. ... 29#1089429
Notes on the "unofficial/to confirm" will be added soon.
regards, Bernd
More award holders of Sturmgeschütz units...
Best regards,
Shawn
SOURCE: Scheibert & Dörr.
Sturmgeschütz-Abteilung / -Brigade 242
German Cross in Gold
Benz, Ernst, 17.03.1944, Hauptmann, Stu.Gesch.Abt. 243
Berneis, Herbert, 15.04.1944, Wachtmeister, 2./Stu.Gesch.Brig. 242
Kutscher, Wilhelm, 03.10.1944, Oberleutnant, 3./He.Stu.Gesch.Brig. 242
Army Honor Roll Clasp
Dahlke, Walther, 25.02.1945, Hauptmann d.R., 1./He.Stu.Gesch.Brig. 242
Commendation Certificate of the Commander-in-Chief of the Army
None
Sturmgeschütz-Abteilung / -Brigade 243
German Cross in Gold
Gerlitz, Günter, 01.04.1942, Leutnant d.R., Stu.Gesch.Abt. 243
Keishold, Siegfried, 17.12.1943, Hauptmann, Stu.Gesch.Abt. 243
Kreutz, Gustav, 28.06.1944, Oberwachtmeister, 2./Stu.Gesch.Brig. 243
Krieg, Gerhard, 06.12.1943, Oberwachtmeister, 1./Stu.Gesch.Abt. 243
Malzan, Friedrich, 26.09.1942, Oberleutnant, 2./Stu.Gesch.Abt. 243
Robel, Heinz, 28.05.1944, Leutnant, Stu.Gesch.Brig. 243
Rübig, Heinz, 28.05.1944, Hauptmann d.R., Stu.Gesch.Brig. 243
Army Honor Roll Clasp
Causemann, [first name not listed], 20.10.1941, Leutnant, 2./Stu.Gesch.Abt. 243
Folle, Eberhard, 07.09.1943, Oberleutnant, 1./Stu.Gesch.Abt. 243
Commendation Certificate of the Commander-in-Chief of the Army
Jesch, [first name not listed], 22.10.1941 (464), Leutnant, 2./Stu.Gesch.Abt. 243
Kühne, [first name not listed], 22.10.1941 (463), Leutnant, 2./Stu.Gesch.Abt. 243
Sturmgeschütz-Abteilung / -Brigade 249
German Cross in Gold
Bitsch, Peter, 30.11.1944, Leutnant d.R., 1./He.Stu.Gesch.Brig. 249
Giebel, Heinz, 22.09.1943, Fahnenjunker-Wachtmeister, 1./Stu.Gesch.Abt. 249
Kranz, Rudolf, 28.05.1944, Hauptmann, Stu.Gesch.Brig. 249
Kreimel, Alois, 21.08.1942, Leutnant d.R., 2./Stu.Gesch.Abt. 249 (mot)
Reichmann, Walter, 28.11.1944, Oberwachtmeister, 1./He.Stu.Gesch.Brig. 249
Sing, Kurt, 24.07.1943, Wachtmeister d.R., 2./Stu.Gesch.Abt. 249
German Cross in Silver
Waldenburger, Max, 19.12.1944, technischer Inspekteur (K), Stb. 4./Stu.Gesch.Brig. 249
Army Honor Roll Clasp
Galle, Friedrich, 17.03.1944, Wachtmeister, 2./Stu.Gesch.Abt. 249
Hinze, Alfred, 27.11.1944, Hauptmann d.R., 2./He.Stu.Gesch.Brig. 249
Koch, Hans, 15.03.1945, Leutnant d.R., 2./He.Stu.Gesch.Brig. 249
Lochoki, Josef, 15.03.1945, Wachtmeister, 2./He.Stu.Gesch.Brig. 249
Ruprecht, Hans-Joachim, 25.11.1944, Leutnant, 1./He.Stu.Gesch.Brig. 249
Stöber, Helmut, 05.05.1944, Oberleutnant, 2./Stu.Gesch.Brig. 249
Commendation Certificate of the Commander-in-Chief of the Army
Klute, Alex, 27.08.1943 (1987), Oberleutnant, Battr.Chef 2./Stu.Gesch.Abt. 249
Sturmgeschütz-Abteilung / -Brigade 259
German Cross in Gold
Hummel, Maximilian, 17.09.1944, Leutnant d.R., 3./Stu.Gesch.Brig. 259
Kienle, Hans, 21.10.1944, Oberwachtmeister, 3./Stu.Gesch.Brig. 259
Schmidhäuser, Erich, 24.03.1945, Leutnant d.R., 3./Stu.Gesch.Brig. 259
Stuiver, Johannes, 30.11.1944, Unteroffizier, 2./Stu.Gesch.Brig. 259
Wohlfarth, Werner, 15.04.1945, Oberleutnant d.R., 1./Stu.Gesch.Brig. 259
Army Honor Roll Clasp
Emde, Adolf, 27.12.1943, Oberleutnant, 2./Stu.Gesch.Abt. 259
Heins, Walter, 07.11.1943, Hauptmann, 1./Stu.Gesch.Abt. 259
Commendation Certificate of the Commander-in-Chief of the Army
None
Sturmgeschütz-Abteilung / -Brigade 261
German Cross in Gold
Schmähl, Günther, 19.10.1944, Oberleutnant d.R., Stu.Gesch.Brig. 261
Army Honor Roll Clasp
None
Commendation Certificate of the Commander-in-Chief of the Army
None
Sturmgeschütz-Abteilung / -Brigade 270
German Cross in Gold
Bergholz, Karl, 19.12.1943, Major, Stu.Gesch.Abt. 270
Kaulbars, Joachim, 03.08.1943, Leutnant, 1./Stu.Gesch.Abt. 270
Kessler, Gottfried, 26.11.1943, Leutnant d.R., 3./Stu.Gesch.Abt. 270
Kupczyk, Richard, 23.05.1944, Oberwachtmeister, 3./Stu.Gesch.Brig. 270
Westerkamp, Otto, 03.01.1944, Wachtmeister, 2./Stu.Gesch.Abt. 270
Army Honor Roll Clasp
None
Commendation Certificate of the Commander-in-Chief of the Army
None
Sturmgeschütz-Abteilung / -Brigade 278
German Cross in Gold
Joost, Heinrich, 28.06.1944, Stabswachtmeister, 1./Stu.Gesch.Brig. 278
Stier, Johannes, 15.06.1944, Hauptmann, Stu.Gesch.Brig. 278
Army Honor Roll Clasp
None
Commendation Certificate of the Commander-in-Chief of the Army
None
Sturmgeschütz-Abteilung / -Brigade 279
German Cross in Gold
Barth, Erwin, 27.11.1944, Oberwachtmeister, 3./Stu.Gesch.Brig. 279
Gaa, Karl, 22.03.1945, Leutnant d.R., Stu.Gesch.Brig. 279
Heise, Hans-Joachim, 15.12.1944, Hauptmann, Stu.Gesch.Brig. 279
Neusens, Albert, 27.11.1944, Oberwachtmeister, Stu.Gesch.Brig. 279
Stahlhacke, Gerhard, 09.03.1945, Oberleutnant, 1./Stu.Gesch.Brig. 279
Army Honor Roll Clasp
Erfkamp, Herinrich, 25.03.1945, Unteroffizier, 3./Stu.Gesch.Brig. 279
Schlagenhof, Eduard, 15.03.1945, Unteroffizier, 3./Stu.Gesch.Brig. 279
Scholz, Werner, 00.00.1945, Leutnant d.R., 3./Stu.Gesch.Brig. 279
Stahlhacke, Gerhard, 15.12.1944, Leutnant, 1./Stu.Gesch.Brig. 279
Commendation Certificate of the Commander-in-Chief of the Army
None
Best regards,
Shawn
SOURCE: Scheibert & Dörr.
Sturmgeschütz-Abteilung / -Brigade 242
German Cross in Gold
Benz, Ernst, 17.03.1944, Hauptmann, Stu.Gesch.Abt. 243
Berneis, Herbert, 15.04.1944, Wachtmeister, 2./Stu.Gesch.Brig. 242
Kutscher, Wilhelm, 03.10.1944, Oberleutnant, 3./He.Stu.Gesch.Brig. 242
Army Honor Roll Clasp
Dahlke, Walther, 25.02.1945, Hauptmann d.R., 1./He.Stu.Gesch.Brig. 242
Commendation Certificate of the Commander-in-Chief of the Army
None
Sturmgeschütz-Abteilung / -Brigade 243
German Cross in Gold
Gerlitz, Günter, 01.04.1942, Leutnant d.R., Stu.Gesch.Abt. 243
Keishold, Siegfried, 17.12.1943, Hauptmann, Stu.Gesch.Abt. 243
Kreutz, Gustav, 28.06.1944, Oberwachtmeister, 2./Stu.Gesch.Brig. 243
Krieg, Gerhard, 06.12.1943, Oberwachtmeister, 1./Stu.Gesch.Abt. 243
Malzan, Friedrich, 26.09.1942, Oberleutnant, 2./Stu.Gesch.Abt. 243
Robel, Heinz, 28.05.1944, Leutnant, Stu.Gesch.Brig. 243
Rübig, Heinz, 28.05.1944, Hauptmann d.R., Stu.Gesch.Brig. 243
Army Honor Roll Clasp
Causemann, [first name not listed], 20.10.1941, Leutnant, 2./Stu.Gesch.Abt. 243
Folle, Eberhard, 07.09.1943, Oberleutnant, 1./Stu.Gesch.Abt. 243
Commendation Certificate of the Commander-in-Chief of the Army
Jesch, [first name not listed], 22.10.1941 (464), Leutnant, 2./Stu.Gesch.Abt. 243
Kühne, [first name not listed], 22.10.1941 (463), Leutnant, 2./Stu.Gesch.Abt. 243
Sturmgeschütz-Abteilung / -Brigade 249
German Cross in Gold
Bitsch, Peter, 30.11.1944, Leutnant d.R., 1./He.Stu.Gesch.Brig. 249
Giebel, Heinz, 22.09.1943, Fahnenjunker-Wachtmeister, 1./Stu.Gesch.Abt. 249
Kranz, Rudolf, 28.05.1944, Hauptmann, Stu.Gesch.Brig. 249
Kreimel, Alois, 21.08.1942, Leutnant d.R., 2./Stu.Gesch.Abt. 249 (mot)
Reichmann, Walter, 28.11.1944, Oberwachtmeister, 1./He.Stu.Gesch.Brig. 249
Sing, Kurt, 24.07.1943, Wachtmeister d.R., 2./Stu.Gesch.Abt. 249
German Cross in Silver
Waldenburger, Max, 19.12.1944, technischer Inspekteur (K), Stb. 4./Stu.Gesch.Brig. 249
Army Honor Roll Clasp
Galle, Friedrich, 17.03.1944, Wachtmeister, 2./Stu.Gesch.Abt. 249
Hinze, Alfred, 27.11.1944, Hauptmann d.R., 2./He.Stu.Gesch.Brig. 249
Koch, Hans, 15.03.1945, Leutnant d.R., 2./He.Stu.Gesch.Brig. 249
Lochoki, Josef, 15.03.1945, Wachtmeister, 2./He.Stu.Gesch.Brig. 249
Ruprecht, Hans-Joachim, 25.11.1944, Leutnant, 1./He.Stu.Gesch.Brig. 249
Stöber, Helmut, 05.05.1944, Oberleutnant, 2./Stu.Gesch.Brig. 249
Commendation Certificate of the Commander-in-Chief of the Army
Klute, Alex, 27.08.1943 (1987), Oberleutnant, Battr.Chef 2./Stu.Gesch.Abt. 249
Sturmgeschütz-Abteilung / -Brigade 259
German Cross in Gold
Hummel, Maximilian, 17.09.1944, Leutnant d.R., 3./Stu.Gesch.Brig. 259
Kienle, Hans, 21.10.1944, Oberwachtmeister, 3./Stu.Gesch.Brig. 259
Schmidhäuser, Erich, 24.03.1945, Leutnant d.R., 3./Stu.Gesch.Brig. 259
Stuiver, Johannes, 30.11.1944, Unteroffizier, 2./Stu.Gesch.Brig. 259
Wohlfarth, Werner, 15.04.1945, Oberleutnant d.R., 1./Stu.Gesch.Brig. 259
Army Honor Roll Clasp
Emde, Adolf, 27.12.1943, Oberleutnant, 2./Stu.Gesch.Abt. 259
Heins, Walter, 07.11.1943, Hauptmann, 1./Stu.Gesch.Abt. 259
Commendation Certificate of the Commander-in-Chief of the Army
None
Sturmgeschütz-Abteilung / -Brigade 261
German Cross in Gold
Schmähl, Günther, 19.10.1944, Oberleutnant d.R., Stu.Gesch.Brig. 261
Army Honor Roll Clasp
None
Commendation Certificate of the Commander-in-Chief of the Army
None
Sturmgeschütz-Abteilung / -Brigade 270
German Cross in Gold
Bergholz, Karl, 19.12.1943, Major, Stu.Gesch.Abt. 270
Kaulbars, Joachim, 03.08.1943, Leutnant, 1./Stu.Gesch.Abt. 270
Kessler, Gottfried, 26.11.1943, Leutnant d.R., 3./Stu.Gesch.Abt. 270
Kupczyk, Richard, 23.05.1944, Oberwachtmeister, 3./Stu.Gesch.Brig. 270
Westerkamp, Otto, 03.01.1944, Wachtmeister, 2./Stu.Gesch.Abt. 270
Army Honor Roll Clasp
None
Commendation Certificate of the Commander-in-Chief of the Army
None
Sturmgeschütz-Abteilung / -Brigade 278
German Cross in Gold
Joost, Heinrich, 28.06.1944, Stabswachtmeister, 1./Stu.Gesch.Brig. 278
Stier, Johannes, 15.06.1944, Hauptmann, Stu.Gesch.Brig. 278
Army Honor Roll Clasp
None
Commendation Certificate of the Commander-in-Chief of the Army
None
Sturmgeschütz-Abteilung / -Brigade 279
German Cross in Gold
Barth, Erwin, 27.11.1944, Oberwachtmeister, 3./Stu.Gesch.Brig. 279
Gaa, Karl, 22.03.1945, Leutnant d.R., Stu.Gesch.Brig. 279
Heise, Hans-Joachim, 15.12.1944, Hauptmann, Stu.Gesch.Brig. 279
Neusens, Albert, 27.11.1944, Oberwachtmeister, Stu.Gesch.Brig. 279
Stahlhacke, Gerhard, 09.03.1945, Oberleutnant, 1./Stu.Gesch.Brig. 279
Army Honor Roll Clasp
Erfkamp, Herinrich, 25.03.1945, Unteroffizier, 3./Stu.Gesch.Brig. 279
Schlagenhof, Eduard, 15.03.1945, Unteroffizier, 3./Stu.Gesch.Brig. 279
Scholz, Werner, 00.00.1945, Leutnant d.R., 3./Stu.Gesch.Brig. 279
Stahlhacke, Gerhard, 15.12.1944, Leutnant, 1./Stu.Gesch.Brig. 279
Commendation Certificate of the Commander-in-Chief of the Army
None
NKSiG winners
Hello.
I have found more winners that are not listed in this thread.
Ottmann, Werner, Award date unknwon, SS-Hauptsturmführer d.R., SS-Panzergrenadier-Bataillon 506/6.SS-Gebirgs-Division "Nord"
Source: http://www.ww2awards.com/person/9001
Porsch, Frithjof-Elmo, 8-8-1943, SS-Untersturmführer, SS-Panzerjagd-Kompanie Dora II
Source: http://www.ww2awards.com/person/9027
Timm, Peter W., Award date unknwon, SS-Untersturmführer, SS-Fallschirmjäger-Bataillon 500
Source: http://www.ww2awards.com/person/9197
I have found next discrepancy in the award date:
Jöres, Walter, 24-1-1945, Major, Kampfgruppe 1. Infanterie-Division
Source: http://www.ww2awards.com/person/8864
In the 13-9-2007 at 19:28h, I wrote:
Best regards.
Jordi
I have found more winners that are not listed in this thread.
Ottmann, Werner, Award date unknwon, SS-Hauptsturmführer d.R., SS-Panzergrenadier-Bataillon 506/6.SS-Gebirgs-Division "Nord"
Source: http://www.ww2awards.com/person/9001
Porsch, Frithjof-Elmo, 8-8-1943, SS-Untersturmführer, SS-Panzerjagd-Kompanie Dora II
Source: http://www.ww2awards.com/person/9027
Timm, Peter W., Award date unknwon, SS-Untersturmführer, SS-Fallschirmjäger-Bataillon 500
Source: http://www.ww2awards.com/person/9197
I have found next discrepancy in the award date:
Jöres, Walter, 24-1-1945, Major, Kampfgruppe 1. Infanterie-Division
Source: http://www.ww2awards.com/person/8864
In the 13-9-2007 at 19:28h, I wrote:
Besides I haven't found them in this thread so I miss them as NKSiG winners.Post subject: NKSiG
Hello.
I am not able to find what division these two NKSiG winners were attached:
Gössmann, Franz, 1-2-1945, Oberfeldwebel, 2. / Grenadier- Regiment 199 "List"
Source: http://www.ww2awards.com/person/5267
Kaiser, Andreas, 1-2-1945, Unteroffizier, 8./Grenadier-Regiment 199 "List"
Source: http://www.ww2awards.com/person/8871
I have doubts about 57.Infanterie-Division, Korps-Abteilung G or 299.Infanterie-Division, although I would bet 299.ID for the award date.
What do you think?
Best regards.
Jordi
Best regards.
Jordi
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I recommend to delete Mr.Fairatale Posch/Petterson immideatly...Porsch, Frithjof-Elmo, 8-8-1943, SS-Untersturmführer, SS-Panzerjagd-Kompanie Dora II
Source: http://www.ww2awards.com/person/9027
Jan-Hendrik
More award holders of Sturmgeschütz units...
Best regards,
Shawn
SOURCE: Scheibert & Dörr.
Sturmgeschütz-Abteilung / -Brigade 280
German Cross in Gold
Herrmann, Kurt, 28.08.1944, Oberwachtmeister, 2./Stu.Gesch.Brig. 280
Huse, Herbert, 29.02.1944, Oberwachtmeister, 2./Stu.Gesch.Abt. 280
Stollmann, Albert, 15.12.1944, Oberleutnant, 1./Stu.Gesch.Brig. 280
Army Honor Roll Clasp
Meining, Fritz, 17.06.1944, Leutnant, Stu.Gesch.Brig. 280
Commendation Certificate of the Commander-in-Chief of the Army
None
Sturmgeschütz-Abteilung / -Brigade 281
German Cross in Gold
None
Army Honor Roll Clasp
None
Commendation Certificate of the Commander-in-Chief of the Army
Haker, Alfred, 25./27.03.1943 (3029), Fahnenjunker-Oberwachtmeister, 1./Stu.Gesch.Abt. 281
Sturmgeschütz-Abteilung 287
German Cross in Gold
None
Army Honor Roll Clasp
None
Commendation Certificate of the Commander-in-Chief of the Army
None
Sturmgeschütz-Abteilung / -Brigade 300
German Cross in Gold
Bluttner, Heinz, 28.05.1944, Oberleutnant d.R., 3./Stu.Gesch.Brig. 300
Haar, Kurt, 22.03.1945, Oberwachtmeister d.R., 2./He.Stu.Gesch.Brig. 300
Klute, Axel, 28.05.1944, Hauptmann, 2./Stu.Gesch.Brig. 300
Martin, Herbert, 26.09.1944, Hauptmann, He.Stu.Gesch.Brig. 300
Timpe, Heinz, 28.02.1945, Leutnant, 1./He.Stu.Gesch.Brig. 300
Army Honor Roll Clasp
Carls, Gerhard, 05.10.1944, Oberleutnant, 1./He.Stu.Gesch.Brig. 300
Kühnel, Joachim, 05.11.1944, Leutnant, 2./He.Stu.Gesch.Brig. 300
Commendation Certificate of the Commander-in-Chief of the Army
Bluttner, Heinz, 27.11.1944 (4681), Hauptmann, Battr.Chef 3./Stu.Gesch.Abt. 300
Sturmgeschütz-Abteilung / -Brigade 301
German Cross in Gold
Fiebig, Walter, 30.09.1944, Wachtmeister, 1./He.Stu.Gesch.Brig. 301
Hoepfl, Helmut, 05.04.1944, Leutnant, 1./Stu.Gesch.Brig. 301
Sekirka, Jan, 20.06.1944, Hauptmann, Stu.Gesch.Brig. 301
Army Honor Roll Clasp
None
Commendation Certificate of the Commander-in-Chief of the Army
None
Sturmgeschütz-Abteilung / -Brigade 303
German Cross in Gold
None
Army Honor Roll Clasp
None
Commendation Certificate of the Commander-in-Chief of the Army
None
Sturmgeschütz-Abteilung / -Brigade 311
German Cross in Gold
Kaufmann, Ludwig, 22.09.1944, Oberleutnant, He.Stu.Gesch.Brig. 311
Army Honor Roll Clasp
None
Commendation Certificate of the Commander-in-Chief of the Army
None
Sturmgeschütz-Abteilung / -Brigade 322
German Cross in Gold
Vincon, Siegfried, 27.01.1945, Hauptmann d.R., 3./Stu.Gesch.Brig. 322
Army Honor Roll Clasp
Rentzow, Adolf, 17.04.1944, Hauptmann, 1./Stu.Gesch.Brig. 322
Commendation Certificate of the Commander-in-Chief of the Army
None
Sturmgeschütz-Abteilung / -Brigade 325
German Cross in Gold
Rieske, Kurt, 28.06.1944, Oberwachtmeister, 3./Stu.Gesch.Brig. 325
Army Honor Roll Clasp
None
Commendation Certificate of the Commander-in-Chief of the Army
Schönmann, Richard, 25.02.1945 (5529), Hauptmann, 1./He.Stu.Art.Brig. 325
Best regards,
Shawn
SOURCE: Scheibert & Dörr.
Sturmgeschütz-Abteilung / -Brigade 280
German Cross in Gold
Herrmann, Kurt, 28.08.1944, Oberwachtmeister, 2./Stu.Gesch.Brig. 280
Huse, Herbert, 29.02.1944, Oberwachtmeister, 2./Stu.Gesch.Abt. 280
Stollmann, Albert, 15.12.1944, Oberleutnant, 1./Stu.Gesch.Brig. 280
Army Honor Roll Clasp
Meining, Fritz, 17.06.1944, Leutnant, Stu.Gesch.Brig. 280
Commendation Certificate of the Commander-in-Chief of the Army
None
Sturmgeschütz-Abteilung / -Brigade 281
German Cross in Gold
None
Army Honor Roll Clasp
None
Commendation Certificate of the Commander-in-Chief of the Army
Haker, Alfred, 25./27.03.1943 (3029), Fahnenjunker-Oberwachtmeister, 1./Stu.Gesch.Abt. 281
Sturmgeschütz-Abteilung 287
German Cross in Gold
None
Army Honor Roll Clasp
None
Commendation Certificate of the Commander-in-Chief of the Army
None
Sturmgeschütz-Abteilung / -Brigade 300
German Cross in Gold
Bluttner, Heinz, 28.05.1944, Oberleutnant d.R., 3./Stu.Gesch.Brig. 300
Haar, Kurt, 22.03.1945, Oberwachtmeister d.R., 2./He.Stu.Gesch.Brig. 300
Klute, Axel, 28.05.1944, Hauptmann, 2./Stu.Gesch.Brig. 300
Martin, Herbert, 26.09.1944, Hauptmann, He.Stu.Gesch.Brig. 300
Timpe, Heinz, 28.02.1945, Leutnant, 1./He.Stu.Gesch.Brig. 300
Army Honor Roll Clasp
Carls, Gerhard, 05.10.1944, Oberleutnant, 1./He.Stu.Gesch.Brig. 300
Kühnel, Joachim, 05.11.1944, Leutnant, 2./He.Stu.Gesch.Brig. 300
Commendation Certificate of the Commander-in-Chief of the Army
Bluttner, Heinz, 27.11.1944 (4681), Hauptmann, Battr.Chef 3./Stu.Gesch.Abt. 300
Sturmgeschütz-Abteilung / -Brigade 301
German Cross in Gold
Fiebig, Walter, 30.09.1944, Wachtmeister, 1./He.Stu.Gesch.Brig. 301
Hoepfl, Helmut, 05.04.1944, Leutnant, 1./Stu.Gesch.Brig. 301
Sekirka, Jan, 20.06.1944, Hauptmann, Stu.Gesch.Brig. 301
Army Honor Roll Clasp
None
Commendation Certificate of the Commander-in-Chief of the Army
None
Sturmgeschütz-Abteilung / -Brigade 303
German Cross in Gold
None
Army Honor Roll Clasp
None
Commendation Certificate of the Commander-in-Chief of the Army
None
Sturmgeschütz-Abteilung / -Brigade 311
German Cross in Gold
Kaufmann, Ludwig, 22.09.1944, Oberleutnant, He.Stu.Gesch.Brig. 311
Army Honor Roll Clasp
None
Commendation Certificate of the Commander-in-Chief of the Army
None
Sturmgeschütz-Abteilung / -Brigade 322
German Cross in Gold
Vincon, Siegfried, 27.01.1945, Hauptmann d.R., 3./Stu.Gesch.Brig. 322
Army Honor Roll Clasp
Rentzow, Adolf, 17.04.1944, Hauptmann, 1./Stu.Gesch.Brig. 322
Commendation Certificate of the Commander-in-Chief of the Army
None
Sturmgeschütz-Abteilung / -Brigade 325
German Cross in Gold
Rieske, Kurt, 28.06.1944, Oberwachtmeister, 3./Stu.Gesch.Brig. 325
Army Honor Roll Clasp
None
Commendation Certificate of the Commander-in-Chief of the Army
Schönmann, Richard, 25.02.1945 (5529), Hauptmann, 1./He.Stu.Art.Brig. 325
Per the 2006 edition of Dörr, his award date is 24.03.1945.Jöres, Walter, 24-1-1945, Major, Kampfgruppe 1. Infanterie-Division
Source: http://www.ww2awards.com/person/8864
Best regards,
Shawn
RE :
The fact that Porsch is listed on ww2awards and is asked here by Jordi is a proof that the whole matter is an obstinate phenomen / myth / issue.
1) a sample of what is written / available on him out of many stuff ; everyone can take the info and draw his own conclusions :
German wikipedia entry, pro his story / claims : http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frithjof_Elmo_Porsch
Ingo Petersson homepage (take a look in the guestbook with many pro and contra) : http://www.zbv500.de.vu/
AHF threads :
Porsch : http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic.php?t=85408
Btl 500 : http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic.php?t=73703
Ingo Peterssen : http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic.php?t=80077
Feldgrau, RE: SS-Sturm-Btl 500 : http://www.feldgrau.net/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=128771&
another board discussion with hard facts / research : http://forum.balsi.de/index.php?action= ... replies=27
2) The facts about his awards I'm aware / result of the above material :
Only EK1 is confirmed. No official records about any other award. Not listed in serious / latest publications.
3) Two points I noticed which would be (minimum) my arguments that Porsch / Peterssen did write fiction based on his experiences as a young W-SS soldier he in fact was and that the awards he claimed to have received are totally unlogical and unconfirmed.
a) NKiG, 8-8-1943, SS-Panzerjagd-Kompanie Dora II
the unit didn't exist in 1943 ! ; in 1945, if so
b) Re: SS-Sturm-Btl 500 ; the unit as described by Peterssen/Porsch is not confirmed as to have existed in this way. It is unclear (to me) wether eventually "SS-Fsch.Jäg.Btl 500" is meant (or is meant to be the base of the fictional story). One detail which appears : 100+ NKiG holders in his unit is absolutely impossible IMO after all I learned from examinating awards ; take the life expectancy of a frontline soldier and the statiscial chance to have 100+ of men with 50 Nahkampftage within one unit ! Look at any other unit for comparisn.
Take a look here (outstanding contribution by Charles Trang) : RFSS-Sondertruppen 500 series, original documents, oct 1944 and feb 1945 (Stand: 1.3.45) ; no SS-Sturm-Btl 500
http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic.php?t=120816
So, as long as no proofs are provided Porsch won't be listed here.
Bernd
Page 99 of the thread and Porsch appears.. Well, the issue is raised once, let's treat it calmly and objectively like all the stuff.Porsch, Frithjof-Elmo, 8-8-1943, SS-Untersturmführer, SS-Panzerjagd-Kompanie Dora II
Source: http://www.ww2awards.com/person/9027
The fact that Porsch is listed on ww2awards and is asked here by Jordi is a proof that the whole matter is an obstinate phenomen / myth / issue.
1) a sample of what is written / available on him out of many stuff ; everyone can take the info and draw his own conclusions :
German wikipedia entry, pro his story / claims : http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frithjof_Elmo_Porsch
Ingo Petersson homepage (take a look in the guestbook with many pro and contra) : http://www.zbv500.de.vu/
AHF threads :
Porsch : http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic.php?t=85408
Btl 500 : http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic.php?t=73703
Ingo Peterssen : http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic.php?t=80077
Feldgrau, RE: SS-Sturm-Btl 500 : http://www.feldgrau.net/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=128771&
another board discussion with hard facts / research : http://forum.balsi.de/index.php?action= ... replies=27
2) The facts about his awards I'm aware / result of the above material :
Only EK1 is confirmed. No official records about any other award. Not listed in serious / latest publications.
3) Two points I noticed which would be (minimum) my arguments that Porsch / Peterssen did write fiction based on his experiences as a young W-SS soldier he in fact was and that the awards he claimed to have received are totally unlogical and unconfirmed.
a) NKiG, 8-8-1943, SS-Panzerjagd-Kompanie Dora II
the unit didn't exist in 1943 ! ; in 1945, if so
b) Re: SS-Sturm-Btl 500 ; the unit as described by Peterssen/Porsch is not confirmed as to have existed in this way. It is unclear (to me) wether eventually "SS-Fsch.Jäg.Btl 500" is meant (or is meant to be the base of the fictional story). One detail which appears : 100+ NKiG holders in his unit is absolutely impossible IMO after all I learned from examinating awards ; take the life expectancy of a frontline soldier and the statiscial chance to have 100+ of men with 50 Nahkampftage within one unit ! Look at any other unit for comparisn.
Take a look here (outstanding contribution by Charles Trang) : RFSS-Sondertruppen 500 series, original documents, oct 1944 and feb 1945 (Stand: 1.3.45) ; no SS-Sturm-Btl 500
http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic.php?t=120816
So, as long as no proofs are provided Porsch won't be listed here.
Bernd
RE : NKiG points of notice by Jordi
Jöres, 1. Inf.Div : listed per Dörr (though it could be a typo (?) ; let's go with Dörr then)
Ottmann, SS-Pz.Gren.Btl 506 / 6. SS-Geb.Div "Nord" : added and corrected
Porsch : see above
Timm, SS-Fsch.Jäg.Btl 500 : I take it, he is not confirmed by Dörr ; so, no listing, or is any other base available ?
Gössmann and Kaiser, GR 199 "List" : hm, good point, Jordi
Late award date (Shawn, confirmed by Dörr ?)
GR 199 "List" end of unit history in june 1944 with 57. Inf.Div ; wasn't reformed and 299. Inf.Div had 500er Rgts.
I take it they had 50 Nahkampftage in summer 1944 already and this was noticed later (remember the Konopka case). As I see no other conclusion / possibility I tend to list them with 57. Inf.Div.
Bernd
Jöres, 1. Inf.Div : listed per Dörr (though it could be a typo (?) ; let's go with Dörr then)
Ottmann, SS-Pz.Gren.Btl 506 / 6. SS-Geb.Div "Nord" : added and corrected
Porsch : see above
Timm, SS-Fsch.Jäg.Btl 500 : I take it, he is not confirmed by Dörr ; so, no listing, or is any other base available ?
Gössmann and Kaiser, GR 199 "List" : hm, good point, Jordi
Late award date (Shawn, confirmed by Dörr ?)
GR 199 "List" end of unit history in june 1944 with 57. Inf.Div ; wasn't reformed and 299. Inf.Div had 500er Rgts.
I take it they had 50 Nahkampftage in summer 1944 already and this was noticed later (remember the Konopka case). As I see no other conclusion / possibility I tend to list them with 57. Inf.Div.
Bernd
RE :
We had it with the review of this unit : Stug.Abt 270 permanently assigned since sept 1943 (until 02.06.1944 = redesignation -> 1. Skijäger-Div ; later renamed "152").
So, if I'm correct, Kupczyk is to add (missed by V.S.)
Kaulbars to list with the (independent) Abt. then.
Bernd
Bergholz, Kessler and Westerkamp are listed with 1. Skijäger-Brigade [page 11].Sturmgeschütz-Abteilung / -Brigade 270
German Cross in Gold
Bergholz, Karl, 19.12.1943, Major, Stu.Gesch.Abt. 270
Kaulbars, Joachim, 03.08.1943, Leutnant, 1./Stu.Gesch.Abt. 270
Kessler, Gottfried, 26.11.1943, Leutnant d.R., 3./Stu.Gesch.Abt. 270
Kupczyk, Richard, 23.05.1944, Oberwachtmeister, 3./Stu.Gesch.Brig. 270
Westerkamp, Otto, 03.01.1944, Wachtmeister, 2./Stu.Gesch.Abt. 270
We had it with the review of this unit : Stug.Abt 270 permanently assigned since sept 1943 (until 02.06.1944 = redesignation -> 1. Skijäger-Div ; later renamed "152").
So, if I'm correct, Kupczyk is to add (missed by V.S.)
Kaulbars to list with the (independent) Abt. then.
Bernd
More award holders of Sturmgeschütz units…
Best regards,
Shawn
SOURCE: Scheibert & Dörr.
Sturmgeschütz-Abteilung / -Brigade 200 (Feld)
German Cross in Gold
None
Army Honor Roll Clasp
None
Commendation Certificate of the Commander-in-Chief of the Army
None
Sturmgeschütz-Abteilung / -Brigade 341
German Cross in Gold
None
Army Honor Roll Clasp
None
Commendation Certificate of the Commander-in-Chief of the Army
None
Sturmgeschütz-Abteilung / -Brigade 394
German Cross in Gold
Jena Freiherr von, Carl-Friedrich, 30.11.1944, Hauptmann, Stu.Gesch.Brig. 394
Schmock, Gert, 28.04.1945, Hauptmann, He.Stu.Gesch.Brig. 394
Army Honor Roll Clasp
None
Commendation Certificate of the Commander-in-Chief of the Army
None
Sturmgeschütz-Abteilung 428
German Cross in Gold
None
Army Honor Roll Clasp
None
Commendation Certificate of the Commander-in-Chief of the Army
None
Sturmgeschütz-Abteilung / -Brigade 600
German Cross in Gold
Harder von, Ernst, 11.04.1944, Major, Stu.Gesch.Brig. 600
Schneider, Otto, 26.11.1943, Oberwachtmeister, 2./Stu.Gesch.Abt. 600
Zimmer, Fritz, 02.05.1944, Oberwachtmeister, 2./Stu.Gesch.Brig. 600
Army Honor Roll Clasp
Borgsmüller, Alfred, 00.00.1945, Leutnant d.R., 3./He.Stu.Gesch.Brig. 600
Buchwieser, Ludwig, 00.00.1945, Major d.R., Stu.Gesch.Brig. 600
Rieger, Friedrich, 27.08.1944, Unteroffizier, 1./He.Stu.Gesch.Brig. 600
Wüst, Walter, 00.00.1945, Leutnant, 1./He.Stu.Gesch.Brig. 600
Commendation Certificate of the Commander-in-Chief of the Army
None
Lehr-Abteilung / Sturmgeschütz-Brigade 902
German Cross in Gold
None
Army Honor Roll Clasp
None
Commendation Certificate of the Commander-in-Chief of the Army
Landgraf-Dietz, Richard, 17.08.1944 (3727), Oberwachtmeister, Zugfhr. 3./Stu.Gesch.Brig. 902
Mucke, Rolf, 25.11.1944 (4537), Oberleutnant, 2./Stu.Gesch.Abt. 902
Sturmgeschütz-Abteilung / -Brigade 904
German Cross in Gold
Adamowitsch, Felix, 29.02.1944, Oberleutnant, Stu.Gesch.Abt. 904
Beise, Walter, 25.10.1943, Leutnant d.B., Stu.Gesch.Abt. 904
Hanke, Wilhelm, 28.11.1944, Oberwachtmeister, 3./He.Stu.Gesch.Brig. 904
Klingler, Helmut, 25.03.1944, Leutnant, Stu.Gesch.Abt. 904
Kuhn, Leonard, 21.10.1944, Hauptmann d.R., He.Stu.Gesch.Brig. 904
Michaelis, Wilhelm, 28.04.1945, Oberwachtmeister, 1./He.Stu.Gesch.Brig. 904
Poorten, Heinrich, 28.04.1945, Wachtmeister, 1./He.Stu.Gesch.Brig. 904
Türke, Kurt, 20.09.1943, Hauptmann, Stu.Gesch.Abt. 904
Army Honor Roll Clasp
Türke, Kurt, 15.09.1944, Major, He.Stu.Gesch.Brig. 904
Commendation Certificate of the Commander-in-Chief of the Army
None
Sturmgeschütz-Abteilung / -Brigade 905
German Cross in Gold
Braun, Jobst Veit, 17.03.1944, Major, Stu.Gesch.Abt. 905
Army Honor Roll Clasp
None
Commendation Certificate of the Commander-in-Chief of the Army
Chorinsky, Viktor, 17.07.1943 (3578), Oberleutnant, Battr.Chef 2./Stu.Gesch.Abt. 905
Sturmgeschütz-Abteilung / -Brigade 907
German Cross in Gold
Knief, Albert, 13.12.1944, Leutnant, He.St.Gesch.Battr. 907
Schröder, Erich, 13.01.1945, Major, He.Stu.Gesch.Brig. 907
Army Honor Roll Clasp
None
Commendation Certificate of the Commander-in-Chief of the Army
None
Sturmgeschütz-Abteilung / -Brigade 909
German Cross in Gold
Feiler, Wolfgang, 03.08.1943, Oberleutnant, 3./Stu.Gesch.Abt. 909
Montag, Alfred, 03.08.1943, Oberleutnant, 2./Stu.Gesch.Abt. 909
Riehl, Wilhelm, 15.09.1943, Oberwachtmeister, 2./Stu.Gesch.Abt. 909
Zimmermann, Rolf, 18.03.1945, Leutnant d.R., Stu.Gesch.Brig. 909
Army Honor Roll Clasp
Montag, Alfred, 27.01.1944, Hauptmann, 2./Stu.Gesch.Abt. 909
Commendation Certificate of the Commander-in-Chief of the Army
Kröger, Burghard, 17.05.1944 (3256), Leutnant, Zugfhr. i. d. Stu.Gesch.Brig. 909
Montag, Alfred, 27.09.1943 (2137), Oberleutnant, Battr.Chef i. d. Stu.Gesch.Abt. 909
Sturmgeschütz-Abteilung / -Brigade 911
German Cross in Gold
Focht, Walter, 05.03.1944, Leutnant d.R., le.Stu.Gesch.Abt. 911
Hensen, Rudolf, 14.07.1944, Leutnant d.R., Stu.Gesch.Brig. 911
Naßhan, Rupprecht, 02.09.1943, Wachtmeister, 1./le.Stu.Gesch.Abt. 909
Army Honor Roll Clasp
Lindenmayr, Josef, 17.01.1944, Wachtmeister, 1./le.Stu.Gesch.Abt. 911
Wilhelm, Georg, 07.08.1943, Oberstleutnant, le.Stu.Gesch.Abt. 911
Commendation Certificate of the Commander-in-Chief of the Army
None
Sturmgeschütz-Abteilung / -Brigade 914
German Cross in Gold
None
Army Honor Roll Clasp
None
Commendation Certificate of the Commander-in-Chief of the Army
None
Best regards,
Shawn
SOURCE: Scheibert & Dörr.
Sturmgeschütz-Abteilung / -Brigade 200 (Feld)
German Cross in Gold
None
Army Honor Roll Clasp
None
Commendation Certificate of the Commander-in-Chief of the Army
None
Sturmgeschütz-Abteilung / -Brigade 341
German Cross in Gold
None
Army Honor Roll Clasp
None
Commendation Certificate of the Commander-in-Chief of the Army
None
Sturmgeschütz-Abteilung / -Brigade 394
German Cross in Gold
Jena Freiherr von, Carl-Friedrich, 30.11.1944, Hauptmann, Stu.Gesch.Brig. 394
Schmock, Gert, 28.04.1945, Hauptmann, He.Stu.Gesch.Brig. 394
Army Honor Roll Clasp
None
Commendation Certificate of the Commander-in-Chief of the Army
None
Sturmgeschütz-Abteilung 428
German Cross in Gold
None
Army Honor Roll Clasp
None
Commendation Certificate of the Commander-in-Chief of the Army
None
Sturmgeschütz-Abteilung / -Brigade 600
German Cross in Gold
Harder von, Ernst, 11.04.1944, Major, Stu.Gesch.Brig. 600
Schneider, Otto, 26.11.1943, Oberwachtmeister, 2./Stu.Gesch.Abt. 600
Zimmer, Fritz, 02.05.1944, Oberwachtmeister, 2./Stu.Gesch.Brig. 600
Army Honor Roll Clasp
Borgsmüller, Alfred, 00.00.1945, Leutnant d.R., 3./He.Stu.Gesch.Brig. 600
Buchwieser, Ludwig, 00.00.1945, Major d.R., Stu.Gesch.Brig. 600
Rieger, Friedrich, 27.08.1944, Unteroffizier, 1./He.Stu.Gesch.Brig. 600
Wüst, Walter, 00.00.1945, Leutnant, 1./He.Stu.Gesch.Brig. 600
Commendation Certificate of the Commander-in-Chief of the Army
None
Lehr-Abteilung / Sturmgeschütz-Brigade 902
German Cross in Gold
None
Army Honor Roll Clasp
None
Commendation Certificate of the Commander-in-Chief of the Army
Landgraf-Dietz, Richard, 17.08.1944 (3727), Oberwachtmeister, Zugfhr. 3./Stu.Gesch.Brig. 902
Mucke, Rolf, 25.11.1944 (4537), Oberleutnant, 2./Stu.Gesch.Abt. 902
Sturmgeschütz-Abteilung / -Brigade 904
German Cross in Gold
Adamowitsch, Felix, 29.02.1944, Oberleutnant, Stu.Gesch.Abt. 904
Beise, Walter, 25.10.1943, Leutnant d.B., Stu.Gesch.Abt. 904
Hanke, Wilhelm, 28.11.1944, Oberwachtmeister, 3./He.Stu.Gesch.Brig. 904
Klingler, Helmut, 25.03.1944, Leutnant, Stu.Gesch.Abt. 904
Kuhn, Leonard, 21.10.1944, Hauptmann d.R., He.Stu.Gesch.Brig. 904
Michaelis, Wilhelm, 28.04.1945, Oberwachtmeister, 1./He.Stu.Gesch.Brig. 904
Poorten, Heinrich, 28.04.1945, Wachtmeister, 1./He.Stu.Gesch.Brig. 904
Türke, Kurt, 20.09.1943, Hauptmann, Stu.Gesch.Abt. 904
Army Honor Roll Clasp
Türke, Kurt, 15.09.1944, Major, He.Stu.Gesch.Brig. 904
Commendation Certificate of the Commander-in-Chief of the Army
None
Sturmgeschütz-Abteilung / -Brigade 905
German Cross in Gold
Braun, Jobst Veit, 17.03.1944, Major, Stu.Gesch.Abt. 905
Army Honor Roll Clasp
None
Commendation Certificate of the Commander-in-Chief of the Army
Chorinsky, Viktor, 17.07.1943 (3578), Oberleutnant, Battr.Chef 2./Stu.Gesch.Abt. 905
Sturmgeschütz-Abteilung / -Brigade 907
German Cross in Gold
Knief, Albert, 13.12.1944, Leutnant, He.St.Gesch.Battr. 907
Schröder, Erich, 13.01.1945, Major, He.Stu.Gesch.Brig. 907
Army Honor Roll Clasp
None
Commendation Certificate of the Commander-in-Chief of the Army
None
Sturmgeschütz-Abteilung / -Brigade 909
German Cross in Gold
Feiler, Wolfgang, 03.08.1943, Oberleutnant, 3./Stu.Gesch.Abt. 909
Montag, Alfred, 03.08.1943, Oberleutnant, 2./Stu.Gesch.Abt. 909
Riehl, Wilhelm, 15.09.1943, Oberwachtmeister, 2./Stu.Gesch.Abt. 909
Zimmermann, Rolf, 18.03.1945, Leutnant d.R., Stu.Gesch.Brig. 909
Army Honor Roll Clasp
Montag, Alfred, 27.01.1944, Hauptmann, 2./Stu.Gesch.Abt. 909
Commendation Certificate of the Commander-in-Chief of the Army
Kröger, Burghard, 17.05.1944 (3256), Leutnant, Zugfhr. i. d. Stu.Gesch.Brig. 909
Montag, Alfred, 27.09.1943 (2137), Oberleutnant, Battr.Chef i. d. Stu.Gesch.Abt. 909
Sturmgeschütz-Abteilung / -Brigade 911
German Cross in Gold
Focht, Walter, 05.03.1944, Leutnant d.R., le.Stu.Gesch.Abt. 911
Hensen, Rudolf, 14.07.1944, Leutnant d.R., Stu.Gesch.Brig. 911
Naßhan, Rupprecht, 02.09.1943, Wachtmeister, 1./le.Stu.Gesch.Abt. 909
Army Honor Roll Clasp
Lindenmayr, Josef, 17.01.1944, Wachtmeister, 1./le.Stu.Gesch.Abt. 911
Wilhelm, Georg, 07.08.1943, Oberstleutnant, le.Stu.Gesch.Abt. 911
Commendation Certificate of the Commander-in-Chief of the Army
None
Sturmgeschütz-Abteilung / -Brigade 914
German Cross in Gold
None
Army Honor Roll Clasp
None
Commendation Certificate of the Commander-in-Chief of the Army
None
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NKSiG winners
Hello.
I have found another NKSiG winners that are not listed in this thread:
Seitz, Josef
Source:http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic. ... z&start=30
Pacher, Karl
Source: http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic. ... z&start=75
Best regards.
Jordi
I have found another NKSiG winners that are not listed in this thread:
Seitz, Josef
Source:http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic. ... z&start=30
Pacher, Karl
Source: http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic. ... z&start=75
Best regards.
Jordi
Bernd,
Gössmann, Franz, 01.02.1945, Oberfeldwebel, Zugfhr. 2./Gren.Rgt. 199 “List” (He received his DKiG and Knight’s Cross with this regiment in 57. Inf.Div.)
Kaiser, Andreas, 01.02.1945, Unteroffizier, Gruppenfhr. 8./Gren.Rgt. 199 “List”
I agree with your assessment that these were likely late awards that were finally noticed in early 1945 after the debacle of Hgr. Mitte in the summer of 1944.
Of note, the addendum in the back of Scheibert’s DKiG book has two late awards for soldiers of Inf.Rgt. 199 that we’ve counted provisionally with the 57. Inf.Div.: Inkmann and Rader. Also, note the late award of the EBS to Heß.
Best regards,
Shawn
Good catch by Jordi – both appear in the 2006 edition of Dörr:Gössmann and Kaiser, GR 199 "List" : hm, good point, Jordi
Late award date (Shawn, confirmed by Dörr ?)
GR 199 "List" end of unit history in june 1944 with 57. Inf.Div ; wasn't reformed and 299. Inf.Div had 500er Rgts.
I take it they had 50 Nahkampftage in summer 1944 already and this was noticed later (remember the Konopka case). As I see no other conclusion / possibility I tend to list them with 57. Inf.Div.
Gössmann, Franz, 01.02.1945, Oberfeldwebel, Zugfhr. 2./Gren.Rgt. 199 “List” (He received his DKiG and Knight’s Cross with this regiment in 57. Inf.Div.)
Kaiser, Andreas, 01.02.1945, Unteroffizier, Gruppenfhr. 8./Gren.Rgt. 199 “List”
I agree with your assessment that these were likely late awards that were finally noticed in early 1945 after the debacle of Hgr. Mitte in the summer of 1944.
Of note, the addendum in the back of Scheibert’s DKiG book has two late awards for soldiers of Inf.Rgt. 199 that we’ve counted provisionally with the 57. Inf.Div.: Inkmann and Rader. Also, note the late award of the EBS to Heß.
Best regards,
Shawn