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Re: Awardholders / unit

Post by W.Vermeer » 16 Jan 2010 14:36

Mistaken writing of names is not uncommon in the Ehrenblatt, so this might very well be the same person.

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Sturmgeschütz Brigade 232

Post by copiloto » 17 Jan 2010 22:24

Hello everybody.
An addition for the DKiG won by Sturmgeschütz Brigade 232:

Friedel, Herbert; 19-7-1944; Wachtmeister; 2./Sturmgeschütz Brigade 232;

Source: http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=9046

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Re: Awardholders / unit

Post by W.Vermeer » 02 Feb 2010 10:51

On page 48 there are the data
Groß, Martin, 24.04.1943, SS-Sturmbannführer, SS-Pz.Rgt. 1 LSSAH

In P/S it states 28th March 1943 for the awarding, has this been discussed yet?

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Re: Awardholders / unit

Post by chris44 » 02 Feb 2010 13:54

Hi
the documents in his P-files
confirmes 28.03.1943 for DKIG (as P/S does)

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Re: Awardholders / unit

Post by Gastolli » 27 Feb 2010 12:00

Hi all,

Marquart, Rolf
20.08.1941 = Anerkennungsurkunde
28.05.1944 = Deutsches Kreuz in Gold

I'm pretty sure he should be listed under Pz.Rgt. 11 for his DKiG-award instead of Pz.Rgt. 10:

Won the AU as chief of the 3. Kp. in Pz.Abt. 65 which later became I./Pz.Rgt. 11. He is mentioned in the history of Pz.Rgt. 11 as Kompaniechef on 17.10.1941.

He is also listed as Hauptmann and chief of 4./Pz.Rgt. 11 per 01.08.1942 in the KTB of I./Pz.Rgt. 11.

Finally he is mentioned again in the history of Pz.Rgt. 11 on 28.03.1944 as taking over the I. Abt. from Hptm. Metzler (wounded) only to get wounded too the same day in his tank "921" after an attack against an "Pakfront".

He got the award 2 months later...

What do you think?

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Re: Awardholders / unit

Post by W.Vermeer » 07 Mar 2010 14:50

P/S states Marquart with I. / Panzer-Regiment 10 on the awarding of the DKiG.

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Re: Awardholders / unit

Post by Gastolli » 07 Mar 2010 15:14

This is what the book says, but I don't believe it (see above) :-)

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Re: Awardholders / unit

Post by W.Vermeer » 07 Mar 2010 15:39

Patzwall/Scherzer researched that, your data give no conclusive evidence of the awarding date, as you state it misses two months. There is a strong possibility, but without conclusive sources on the actual data there is hardly a case to doubt researched data. You could always write Patzwall or Scherzer off course???? :D

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Re: Awardholders / unit

Post by Gastolli » 09 Mar 2010 00:41

Aehm,

you might know that the proposal for an award like the DKiG and the award date usually are separated by MORE than 2 months because of all the written comments needed from Division, Korps, Armee, Heeresgruppe and finally Berlin !?

I'm VERY convinced that Marquart belonged to Pz.Rgt. 11 !

Nethertheless it's an good idea to try to contact the authors - in my opinion it's an simple typing error...

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Re: Awardholders / unit

Post by shogun » 10 Apr 2010 01:13

Interesting---I have been researching a promotion document which appears to be handsigned by Hitler in Sept 1936 for a Friedrich Evers when he was appointed to the general staff of X Armee Corps. At the time he was listed as a major (E) and appears to have been a reserve officer who was recalled to serve in a staff position when the big build up of the Wehrmacht really went into full tilt. The document is countersigned by Von Blomberg and appears to be handsigned by Hitler, not stamped or autopenned. Looks like he received the German Cross in Silver in 1944

"Evers, Friedrich, 12.07.1944, Major d.R., Div.Nachsch.Tr. 8"

and was categorized as a reserve officer later in the war. Am I correct in assuming that is what the d.R. refers to?

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Re: Awardholders / unit

Post by W.Vermeer » 10 Apr 2010 19:01

d.R means der Reserve and indeed is a reserve officer.

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Re: Awardholders / unit-Fredrich Evers, Cross in Silver

Post by shogun » 11 Apr 2010 19:40

Thanks for the info----I am going to post a link to my website which displays an image of this promotion document for Fredrich Evers along with a separate image of a close up of Hitler's signiture. Looking at the signiture it appears genuine to me--I can see the distinct brush marks from the pen that makes me think it is handwritten--thoughts anyone? Thanks for looking.
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Sturmgeschütz-Abteilung / -Brigade 280

Post by copiloto » 29 Aug 2010 12:00

Hello everybody.
I have found a winner of the Ehrenblatt that is missed for Sturmgeschütz Brigade 280:

Mathes, Josef; 25.10.1944; Oberwachtmeister; Sturmgeschütz Brigade 280;

Source: http://www.die-sturmartillerie.com/ehrenblatt.htm

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Re: Awardholders / unit

Post by LRRPS » 08 Sep 2010 22:26

New holder of the CCC in Gold. Leutnant Heinz Weinland, 22.4.1945, "verliehen durch Kdr. der 719 I.D.". Source is Soldbuch entry.

Excellent thread here: http://www.wehrmacht-awards.com/forums/ ... p?t=459907

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Re: EKiG 712.I.D.

Post by sealander » 27 Oct 2010 14:42

USAF1986 wrote:Here are the recipients of the German Cross in Gold/Silver (no Close Combat Clasps in Gold in 1986 edition of Dörr/Thomas) who received their awards while assigned to the 712. Infanterie-Division.

As always, additions/corrections would be most appreciated!

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Shawn

SOURCES:
• Scheibert, Horst. Die Träger des Deutschen Kreuzes in Gold (Das Heer). Podzun-Pallas Verlag, Friedberg, Germany, 1983.
• Scheibert, Horst. Die Träger des Deutschen Kreuzes in Gold (Kriegsmarine, Luftwaffe, Waffen-SS) und Deutschen Kreuzes in Silber (Heer, Kriegsmarine, Luftwaffe, Waffen-SS). Podzun-Pallas Verlag, Friedberg, Germany, no date.

712. Infanterie-Division

German Cross in Gold
Kratzer, Wilhelm, 13.12.1944, Hptm., II./Art.Rgt. 1712

German Cross in Silver
Dentler, Dr. Hans, 15.03.1945, Stabsarzt d.R., San.Kp. 712
Neumann, Friedrich-Wilhelm, 30.10.1943, Gen.Lt., Kdr. 712. Inf.Div.
Rädler, Oscar, 30.10.1943, Oberst d.R., Gren.Rgt. 732
sorry Shawn
but on Neumann and Raedler you may have the date right but to my knowledge the year should be 1944, after the fighting in Belgium
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