Awards (OL, Sw. & Diam.) personally bestowed by Hitler

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Re: Awards (OL, Sw. & Diam.) personally bestowed by Hitler

Post by FANGIO » 13 Aug 2009 02:20

Hi everybody.

Hope this pic hasn't been posted yet. It shows Hermann Priess receiving the Oakleaves from Hitler.
Any idea on the date and place?
Source: http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/sh ... 9&page=125
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Re: Awards (OL, Sw. & Diam.) personally bestowed by Hitler

Post by bake » 14 Aug 2009 20:55

Hello Fangio

Yes, this picture was posted the Jul 27 but in a smaller size.

Info: After 09/09/43, FHQ, Wolfsschanze.
WSS ceremony
- SS-Brigaf. Hermann Priess (297. EL)

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Re: Awards (OL, Sw. & Diam.) personally bestowed by Hitler

Post by bake » 23 Aug 2009 21:58

From :Militaria321.com

May 12 or 13, 1940, FHQ (Felsennest), Germany
LW ceremony (for the EK2, EK1 and RK) to reward the Eben Emael fighters
- Egon Delica
- Walter Koch
- Joachim Meißner
- Gustav Altmann
- Rudolf Witzig
- Otto Zierach
- Helmut Ringler
- Walter Kiess
- Rolf Jäger
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Re: Awards (OL, Sw. & Diam.) personally bestowed by Hitler

Post by goofy » 24 Aug 2009 20:49

2 Wittmann photos from bundesarchiv...
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Re: Awards (OL, Sw. & Diam.) personally bestowed by Hitler

Post by FANGIO » 24 Aug 2009 21:22

Great pics!

They seem to be different ocassions, am I right?

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Re: Awards (OL, Sw. & Diam.) personally bestowed by Hitler

Post by bake » 24 Aug 2009 22:28

Hello Fangio


The first picture is Wittmann awarded Schwerter at the Berghof in Jun 1944 and
the second one is Wittmann bestowed the Eichenlaub at Rastenburg Jan 1944.

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Re: Awards (OL, Sw. & Diam.) personally bestowed by Hitler

Post by bake » 29 Aug 2009 16:34

****NEW****** and *******UPDATE********

from: http://www.read-all-about-ot.org

- 11/11/1943, location: Wolfsschanze
WH Ceremony
General der Infanterie Friedrich Hoßbach ( 298 EL)
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Re: Awards (OL, Sw. & Diam.) personally bestowed by Hitler

Post by mjölnir » 01 Sep 2009 07:01

Hello bake!

There is a mistake in the date of Hossbach's ceremony. Hitler was on November 11th, 1943, not at the Wolfsschanze. Hossbach was awarded on September 11th, 1943. Hitler was from September 11th untill November, 7th, at the Wolfsschanze. Then on 8. and 9. November at Munich. From 10th till 15th November he was at his Berghof. After 16.11. untill end of the year he was at Wolfsschanze.
It's a mistake in Hitler's itinerar. So the ceremony must be before 8. November 1943 (my opinion) or after November 15th (I think too late!).
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Re: Awards (OL, Sw. & Diam.) personally bestowed by Hitler

Post by bake » 03 Sep 2009 20:24

Thank`s mjölnir

Did you able to post the Hitler`s location date for 1943 and 1944 or PM me the info.

We back to square one

- After 11/09/1943, location: Wolfsschanze
WH Ceremony
Geneal der Infanterie Friedrich Hoßbach ( 298 EL)

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Re: Awards (OL, Sw. & Diam.) personally bestowed by Hitler

Post by mjölnir » 07 Sep 2009 07:57

Hello bake!
Look here:
viewtopic.php?f=45&t=145970

There you find Hitler's itinerar fromm 1933-1945.
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Re: Awards (OL, Sw. & Diam.) personally bestowed by Hitler

Post by bake » 12 Sep 2009 01:14

***NEW***
From: www.heinzschnaufer.be

27/11/44, Berlin
LW ceremony :
- Major Wolfgang Schnaufer (21. brill.)
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Cherkassy Pocket - Lieb-Degrelle-Gille

Post by Colonel Kurtz » 15 Sep 2009 03:15

Hello,

Here is some information concerning the awards bestowed on several commanders following the breakout of the Cherkassy pocket (Korsun-Shevchenkovskii).

Following the breakout of the Cherkassy pocket (16-18. February 1944), SS-Gruppenführer Herbert-Otto Gille of SS-Wiking Division, SS-Hauptstürmführer Léon Degrelle of SS-Brigade Wallonien and Generalleutnant Theobald Lieb (m.d.F.b.) of XXXXII AK flew to Rastenburg aboard a Ju-52 on the evening of 20. February 1944. Upon arrival, the SS officers were transported by limousine to their quarters. Lieb seems to have reached the Wolfsschanze by other means. This may explain why Theobald Lieb received his Eichenlaub (400) in a separate ceremony. Gille and Degrelle were together when Hitler bestowed the Schwertern (47) to the former and the Ritterkreuz to the latter.

Many notes on this website mention the awards ceremony was on 18. February. Also note that the “official” date for Lieb’s award is 18. February while Gille and Degrelle’s date for their respective awards is 20. February. The ceremony actually took place on 20. February 1944.

Picture No.1 (Lieb and Hitler) can be found at the BPK site.
http://bpkgate.picturemaxx.com/webgate_cms/

Picture No.2 (Degrelle-Gille-Fegelein-Hitler) is taken from the following AHF page.
http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic.php?t=46430&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=675

Go to the following AHF page for more photos of Hitler with Degrelle and Gille.
http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=46430&start=750

Note how Hitler is warm to Degrelle in the photos. Upon meeting Degrelle, Hitler would have mentioned “I’ve been very worried about you”. Degrelle apparently received the Eichenlaub on 25. August 1944 (not confirmed – I find no sources to this effect). Upon receiving his Oakleaves, Hitler would have told him, "Si j'avais eu un fils, j'aurais aimé qu'il fût comme vous" - "If I had a son, I would want him to be like you." (Interview given by Léon Degrelle to Jean Kapel in Histoire magazine; No. 19, septembre 1981). This statement is contested by Degrelle’s biographer, Jean-Marie Frérotte in Léon Degrelle, le dernier fasciste (Bruxelles, Paul Legrain, 1987). After the ceremony Degrelle would have said of Hitler, “I saw in his eyes that he looked at me like a son”.

Although taken 6 months earlier, the photos of the Cherkassy ceremony show a warmth that Hitler rarely demonstrates to other soldiers.

A short video of the three officers in audience with the Führer is found at the following:
http://www.gutenberg-e.org/esk01/video/esk01_vid241.html
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZOcrOqJgF50

In these videos, we can clearly see that Lieb’s ceremony was independent from the SS officers. The ceremony was in the same room though, as one can see from the map in the background on the wall.

Following the ceremony, a press conference was held in which the three officers made statement which were broadcast live throughout Germany. Dr. Otto Dietrich, an SS-Obergruppenführer and the Reichspressechef (Reichs Press Chief) was present for this conference.

Dieter Zinke posted a good picture of the press conference at the following page.
http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=61927

Picture No. 3 (following the ceremony) can be found at the following website.
http://home.arcor.de/degrelle/Tscherkassy/Tscherkassy.htm

I hope this information may be useful to you !

Am looking for info on Degrelle’s Eichenlaub award. What recipient number did he have if he did receive the award ? I have SS-Untersturmführer Bruno Hinz (559) on 23. August 1944 and Obst. Helmuth Mäder (560) on 27. August 1944. The das-ritterkreuz.de website has no metion of Degrelle receiving the Oakleaves to the Knight’s Cross.



Merci beaucoup !

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Re: Awards (OL, Sw. & Diam.) personally bestowed by Hitler

Post by Bernd R » 15 Sep 2009 20:03

Concerning Degrelle's Eichenlaub :
Oakleaves
Degrelle, Léon [EL o.Nr.] 27.08.1944 SS-Sturmbannführer Kdr 5. SS-Frw-Sturm-Brig „Wallonien“ / Kampfgruppe Wagner / Armee-Abt Narwa / HGr Nord

Quoted from here awardholders/unit sticky, page 19
"EL o.Nr." means "without number". Foreigners higher awards were issued without a "number".

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Re: Awards (OL, Sw. & Diam.) personally bestowed by Hitler

Post by bake » 16 Sep 2009 00:05

Thank`s guys for your participation :)

Anyone has on hand a nice and clear copy ( Film) of the awards ceremony of Degrelle ,Gille and Lieb.

The youtube copy is a very poor quality film and the other one is dark.

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Re: Awards (OL, Sw. & Diam.) personally bestowed by Hitler

Post by AlifRafikKhan » 18 Sep 2009 12:06

Better quality pic of Erwin Rommel receiving Eichenlaub from Hitler...

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