Additional info on Korvettenkapitän Hans Bartels

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Additional info on Korvettenkapitän Hans Bartels

Post by kstdk » 10 Nov 2005 00:20

Hello all
I am looking for ANY additional informations about Korvettenkapitän Hans Bartels.
It is for a follow up on an article that we have had in a Danish Newspaper this last sunday regarding the sinking of 4 danish fishingvessels in feb. 1940 ( yes, 2 month before the invasion of Denmark ) where 17 men died.
Bartels was the commander of the M 1 which sunk these boats, all fishingboats from Esbjerg.
I am curious to know some details about this man !!!
I have made a Google search, and a search on this forum as well and found some interesting info.
But some is still missing, so.....anybody able to help with some "massive" info on this man.

Bartels:
Born: 05.07.1910 in Frankfurt / Main
Died: 31.07.1945 in Rendsburg in a accident
Anybody know about that accident ????

Service:
05.03.39 - 26.05.40 Kapitänleutnant, Kommandant M 1
27.05.40 - 06.12.42 Küstensicherungsverbande beim Admiral Norwegische Westküste: 51. - 53. - 55. Vorpostenflotille
07.12.42 - 11.08.43 I. Offizier Z 24
12.08.43 - ??.08.44 Kommandant T 14
??.08.44 - 08.05.45 Kleinkampfverbände ( Lehrkdo. 250 / Chef Biberflotillen 261-262-263-264-265-266-267-268-269-270 )

Anybody know some additional info on his servicecareer in the above mentioned units ??
Any info on Z 24 and T 14 ??
I am also most interested in his time with the Kleinkampfverband in France, Belgien and Holland. !!!
Hans Bartels has published a book: "Tigerflagge heiss vor" - Ritterkreuzträger Kapitänleutnant Hans Bartels erzählt.
Deutsher Heimatverlag / Bielefeld, Gieseking 1943.
Anybody know this book ?? - Or any other available sources ?

Info:
http://www.freewebs.com/graham7760/thegermanbieber.htm
http://www.deutsche-marinesoldaten.de/l ... artels.htm
http://www.lexikon-der-wehrmacht.de/Gli ... verb-R.htm
http://uboat.net/types/biber.htm
http://home.lyse.net/akhuseb/roda.htm
http://www.uboatwar.net/midgetflot.htm
http://www.uboatwar.net/midgets.htm
http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic. ... ns+bartels
The above links all mention Bartels - so, dear friends - any additional info on this topic is most welcome :)

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Kurt - kstdk

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Post by mjölnir » 10 Nov 2005 14:27

Hello Kstdk!
I have read Bartels' book some years ago. It's about his operations during the nowegian campaign, when he gets the Knightscross. You can find some books at zvab.com, for example.
The book was edited in 1941 at first time.
Have you looked at "das-ritterkreuz.de"?
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Post by kstdk » 10 Nov 2005 17:20

Hello Mjölnir
Thanks for your responce !!
Yes, i have seen the links mentioned, very good info there as well, thanks.
About the book, is it worth buying, it can be purchased in antiquarian bookshops as well at about 35 Euro !!
mjölnir wrote:Hello Kstdk!
I have read Bartels' book some years ago. It's about his operations during the nowegian campaign, when he gets the Knightscross. You can find some books at zvab.com, for example.
The book was edited in 1941 at first time.
Have you looked at "das-ritterkreuz.de"?
mjölnir
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Post by Steen Ammentorp » 12 Nov 2005 10:27

Hi Kstdk,

They do have a copy of the book at the Kongelige Bibliotek as the only library in Denmark. However it is located in the Danish Collection (Danske samling) from where you not normaly allowed to loan it. You can of course see it at the library.

Now since it is not a Danish title it is possible that you could get it through a inter-library loan to your local library and use it in the reference room. If you are located in Copenhagen then it is of course easier to go to the Kongelige Bibliotek.

This would allow you to check the book before buying it.

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Post by stril » 15 Nov 2005 00:05

Hello
What newpaper pubished that article ? Any possibility to get hold of a copy ? As you know Kurt, he was doing duty in my hometown for some years.
I add a little "cutout", front of a fishingboat having the emblem of the Tigerverband.
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Post by stril » 17 Jan 2006 17:28

Hello
Ill have another try in this matter. Anyone know what newspaper that had the article, and what about the follow up ? Published ?
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Post by kstdk » 17 Jan 2006 18:02

Hello Stril
Sorry, did not see you first posting !! I of course have a scann of the article, as i was involved in the story. I have send a mail to your private e-mail. !!
It was "Jydske Vestkysten" in Esbjerg that had the article in a special series.
6. november 2005: http://www.jv.dk/dc/soeg:search_string= ... gory=combi
But. you can not read the article here unless you buy acces !!!
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Post by kstdk » 10 Nov 2006 22:26

Hello all
For a follow up special for the members who can read Danish - some articles from an Esbjerg local paper:
http://esbjerg.hveruge.dk/a.php?i=1672
http://esbjerg.hveruge.dk/a.php?i=1671
http://esbjerg.hveruge.dk/a.php?articleId=1673
http://esbjerg.hveruge.dk/a.php?i=1686
All articles:
http://esbjerg.hveruge.dk/browser.php?p ... 160&page=4
Danish television, see video: http://tvsyd.dk/page/13?article_id=18264
NB: Still searching for informations about Bartels !!!!!!!!!!!
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Post by kstdk » 14 Feb 2007 21:30

Hello all
I am still searching for further informations about Hans Bartels. Also a good picture of him for an article about the 4 fishing vessels he rammed and sund with M1 in february 1940 in Danish waters out of Esbjerg.
Also seeking information about his whereabouts in Norway 1940 - 42 - and his service with the Kleinstkampfmittel units in France, Belgium and Holland 1943 - 45. Also informations about the accident during which he was killed in Rendsburg in june 45.
All the above sources has been worked through, and other searches on the internet has not given any conclusive answers - so i am counting on help here in this excellent forum :)
NB: Ther are new developenents in this matter here: http://esbjerg.ny.hveruge.dk/scr.php?sc ... cle&i=1687
See number 4 and 5 for more details, only in Danish, sorry.
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Post by kstdk » 04 Mar 2007 13:59

Hello all
Still searching for all relevant informations about:
Hans Bartels
Vorpostenflotillen
Zerstörer Z 24
Torpedoboot T 18
Lehrkommando 250
Minenkommando in Rendsburg 1945

See latest developemant here (in Danish only, sorry): http://esbjerg.hveruge.dk/
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Re: Additional info on Korvettenkapitän Hans Bartels

Post by kstdk » 05 Apr 2010 10:46

Hello
To follow up on this - we are still working with this case. I found a picture of Hans Bartels (source mentioned in the picture).
I shows ( I think) the day that he got the Ritterkreuz. He is accompanied by General Falkenhorst and Admiral von Schrader from his ship M 1 to the ceremony where he got his Ritterkreuz. That would date the picture to 16. maj 1940.
Still - any new / other information about Hans Bartels are most welcome, specially about his career after M 1 and in the time late in the war are most interesting - but very little information are to be found.
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Re: Additional info on Korvettenkapitän Hans Bartels

Post by kstdk » 03 Nov 2012 14:13

Hello all
I am still reserching this regarding Minensuchboot M1 and Kptlt. Hans Bartels. So any news and / or pictures etc. will be interesting.
The latest in this story is that NDR had made a documentary regarding the Kriegsmarine, it can be seen here:
http://mediathek.daserste.de/sendungen_ ... iegsmarine
But - all info will be most welcome. Also some new photos here.
http://www.dws.org.pl/viewtopic.php?f=88&t=9159&start=0
Any one here who is a member on this forum, who might put me in contact with "Darek L.MiG Miładowski" who owns these pictures???
Any help will be welcome, as I do not understand Polish :)
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Re: Additional info on Korvettenkapitän Hans Bartels

Post by Doktor Krollspell » 04 Nov 2012 01:24

Hello Kurt!
I found some information about Hans Bartels in Helmut Blocksdorf's "Das Kommando der Kleinkampfverbände der Kriegsmarine" (2003)...
Bartels took command of Schwerpunktraum Niederrhein on March 11, 1945, with the Tarnbezeichnung "Lederstrumpf". This command included Kampfschwimmer and was reinforced with the K-Flottille 218.
On April 20, 1945, two Kampfgruppen (with Kampfschwimmer) from the Sonderverband "Lederstrumpf" was relocated to the Magdeburg area, and equopped with Treibminen and "Spezialsprenggeräten" for blowing up the bridges over the Elbe at Barby. (No more information is known about this)
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Re: Additional info on Korvettenkapitän Hans Bartels

Post by kstdk » 04 Nov 2012 10:57

Hello Krollspell
Thank you very much for that information - that was indeed new to me :) It is not easy to find anything regarding the Kleinkampfmittel at the end of the war, and I still have not found out what really happened in the accident in which Bartels died in Rendsburg. I suppose though, that it was a explosion during mine clearing as prisoner of war with the British - but what really happened??? Again thanks for the additional info on Bartels. Anyone for more??
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Kurt - kstdk

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