Panzerjägerabt. 1 during the second Ladoga battle

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Panzerjägerabt. 1 during the second Ladoga battle

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Post by Daniel L » 15 Jan 2005, 16:55

Does anyone know about a place called Emga, Strella (or something like that) south of Ladoga. The Panzerjägerabteilung of the 1. Infanterie Division fought there in the winter of 1943 (2nd Ladoga battle 11.1. - 5.4.43). I would like to have the name confirmed or corrected.

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Post by Ron Klages » 15 Jan 2005, 20:03

Daniel,

I believe you are looking for the town of MGA which is 46km south-east of the center of Leningrad [St.Petersburg].

There was a great amount of fighting in and around this area since it was close to the most eastern extent of HG Nord and was a front line most of their time in the area.

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Post by Daniel L » 15 Jan 2005, 20:52

Thanks Ron. Very nice that someone was able to help me with this. So where or what is Strella (Strela?) then, a village outside Mga or a region? Also, can someone confirm that the German spelling of the city is Emga?

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Post by Balsi » 15 Jan 2005, 21:45

I have here a detailed map of the "Leningradski Krai".
Schmitz/Thiess tells that the 1. ID (mot.) fought sputh of Ladoga-Sea, south of Gaitolovo.
Tessin said - south of Ladoga-Sea, Pogostje pocket, south of Kolpino (18. Armee)

south of Gailovo are the cities/villages:

Apraksin, Micailovskii, Slawjanka, Nasija, Poretschie

southeast:
Sologubovka, Pucholovo

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Post by Balsi » 15 Jan 2005, 21:54

there is a city of Strelna.. but southwest of St. Petersburg
and Strelno southeast of Wolchow

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Post by Ron Klages » 19 Jan 2005, 10:21

Daniel,

Are you talking about the German word stelle meaning a place, a point, a spot or a position. In German it would be possible to see "stellen am MGA" meaning positions in MGA. A stellung is a military position. Just a possibility.

MGA is the way the Germans write it and on current maps it appears as MGA

Here is some info from the web site on train schedules from St. Petersburg. You can see Mga called out.

 in St.Petersburg: January 19, 2005; 11:24am (GMT+4);  Weather: -6°CC, 21°F.
Search:
 railwaycommunication
System of railways.Terminals. 

Ladozhsky Railway Terminal
Metro station “Ladozhskaya"
Next to the metro station

(Long-distance trains)
Arhanguelsk, Astana, Babaevo, Chelyabinsk, Ekaterinburg, Helsinki, Karaganda, Kostomuksha, Murmansk, Pestovo, Petrozavodsk, Pitkyaranta, Syktivkar, Vologda, Vorkuta

(Local trains)
Budogozh, Gory, Mga, Nevdubstroy, Pupishevo, Rzhevka, Volhovstroy, Voybo


Hope this might clear up you query.

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Post by Daniel L » 20 Jan 2005, 02:57

Hi Ron and Balsi,

its written "Emga/Strella". However, it's supposed to be one geographical position, not for example "Emga and Strelna". Could it be a line of defense?

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Post by Balsi » 20 Jan 2005, 10:05

Hi Daniel,

from where do you take this info from?

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Post by Daniel L » 20 Jan 2005, 12:43

Hi Robert,

a veteran wrote it to me in a letter.

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Post by Ron Klages » 21 Jan 2005, 03:55

Daniel,

I just received a book on the 11. ID which was fighting in the same battles as the I. ID and in checking through the maps and text I can find nothing that resembles Strella. What I do find is that Mga was a critical point in the defense of the German line and the Soviets were attempting to bust through from the area to the east from Wolchow in early 1943. I believe the information you have is talking about the defensive position in and around Mga since it was a significant location. The area between Mga and Schüsselburg on the coast of the Ladoga See was fought for intensely by both sides. and the Germans had several defensive lines in the area. The germand managed to keep the heights at Ssinjawino.

That about all I could put together.

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Post by Daniel L » 21 Jan 2005, 12:48

Thanks Ron, your help is most appreciated! I think my question is answered now.

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Post by Jan-Hendrik » 21 Jan 2005, 15:10

The fights around Mga are were detailled worked out in Hasso G. Stachows "Tragödie an der Newa" , but i don´t know if there is already an edition in english language .

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Post by Daniel L » 25 Jan 2005, 01:25

Thanks Jan-Hendrik!

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Re: Panzerjägerabt. 1 during the second Ladoga battle

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Post by Ken S. » 19 Jul 2019, 17:58

This is an old thread but in case it's of use, this map shows the position of 1.ID on January 13, 1943. Unfortunately most of the placenames are difficult to read.

https://1infanteriedivision.files.wordp ... 4/map6.jpg

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