Unit emblems identification help

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Re: Unit emblems identification help

Post by vk_77 » 30 Jan 2010 15:20

Alan thank you for reply!....5. PzD came in Russia in october 41. I think it is units of 1. PzD. But what means "S"????
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Re: Unit emblems identification help

Post by Gerard Kenny » 19 Mar 2010 02:28

Can anybody help to ID this unit please ?
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Re: Unit emblems identification help

Post by Medi » 08 May 2010 17:19

Gerard Kenny wrote:Can anybody help to ID this unit please ?
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It looks some what like the emblem for the 15. Pz. Div. IMO !

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Re: Unit emblems identification help

Post by s.pak » 16 May 2010 17:25

hello all.

this photo from my collection is from one soldier of 6. Geb-Div, and the truck have pionnier marking on his right wing. is this a Geb-Pi-Btl. 91marking ????
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Re: Unit emblems identification help

Post by gregez » 31 Aug 2010 20:33

Hi,

Please help identify this emblem. The picture was taken in East Prussia, Goldap city area, propably october 1944.
Upper emblem is completely mystery for me. This unit is mostly propably LW unit- soldier who stands on the truck wears LW helmet.
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Re: Unit emblems identification help

Post by Jeremiah29 » 04 Jan 2011 21:14

Hello Gents,
I would like to find out to which unit belong the following emblem (Wolfsangel) seen at Brest (Brittany, France).
It seems that the picture was taken in summer 1940, because of others pictures showing some heavy smokes of destruction in the harbor. At this time, the sector of Brest was normaly occupied by elements of 5. Panzer-Division and 2.Infanterie-Division (mot.).
I found a few units with this emblem, but no one was at Brest... :?

[img][img]http://i32.servimg.com/u/f32/11/32/67/16/brest_11.jpg[/img][/img]

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Re: Unit emblems identification help

Post by John Hilly » 05 Jan 2011 13:16

Isn't that the emblem of the 2. SS "Das Reich"?

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Re: Unit emblems identification help

Post by Jeremiah29 » 05 Jan 2011 21:01

No, no !
2. SS-PD had a Wolfsangel too, but the division on my picture belongs to Heer, not to Waffen-SS... and the 2. SS-PD never came at Brest during the war... :milwink:

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Post by Alanmccoubrey » 05 Jan 2011 22:50

Jeremiah29 wrote:No, no !
2. SS-PD had a Wolfsangel too, but the division on my picture belongs to Heer, not to Waffen-SS... and the 2. SS-PD never came at Brest during the war... :milwink:

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Laurent, Are you absolutely sure on the date ? If you look carefully at the signboard you'll see the 1940 insignia of 5. Panzer-Division at either end. Also the canopy of the Bedford truck has a swastika painted on it, not a very common thing in 1944.
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Re: Unit emblems identification help

Post by Jeremiah29 » 06 Jan 2011 09:11

Hello Alan !
Look at my first post, I talk about 1940, not 1944... :milwink:
Your eyes are very good :D : I don't saw the emblem of 5. Pz.Div. because my spirit was occupied by the large Wolfsangel... 8O
So it's well the 5. Panzer-Division of Gen. Lemelsen after the division arrived on June 19, 1940.

Many thanks for your help !!! :D

Have you got an idea for the Wolfsangel and the word behind ?.. "Vaterkraft" or something like that ..

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Re: Unit emblems identification help

Post by reinaart » 26 Jan 2011 12:14

The word is "Unterkunft", which means something like "lodgings" :milwink: . I wonder if anyone can identify the following sign. To me it looks like a rearing horse, a winged horse or lion. This pic is also in Panzer Tracts 7-2 and Thomas Jentz wasn't able to identify it. For some reason I think I have seen it before....
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It also looks like this sign of 70. ID, which might make some sense in that there could be a connection to 65. ID which was equipped with the MarderI:
http://www.balsi.de/Weltkrieg/Einheiten ... tseite.htm
There is another pic of a MarderI from this unit driving through a town which looks French. I wonder if this could be Saint Omer (July 1943).Thanks in advance.

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Re: Unit emblems identification help

Post by Jeremiah29 » 27 Jan 2011 14:24

Hi Reinaart !
Many thanks for the word "Unterkunft" ! :D

Laurent

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Re: Unit emblems identification help

Post by Alanmccoubrey » 27 Jan 2011 17:55

Arjan, the 70. ID had a horse insignia didn't it ? To me that looks a bit like the "acorn and oakleaves" insignia of 716. ID which certainly had this type of vehicle. I'm not sure that the same can be said for 70. ID as it wasn't formed until June 1944 in Holland.
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Re: Unit emblems identification help

Post by reinaart » 27 Jan 2011 21:41

Thanks for your input Alan. You are right of course that 70. ID didn't have any MarderI's. What I actually meant is that to me the emblem looks like a horse, which might make sense as many German infantry divisions have a horse or horses in their emblems. The problem I have with the oak leaves emblem (716. ID) you suggest is that it almost seems to be a mirror image of the emblem present on the MarderI in question. I'm still more inclined to believe that the emblem is a stylized winged horse (more stylized than eg the Pegasus emblem of 352. ID ). I wonder what emblems 343. ID and 348. ID used because these are also units that had the MarderI. So far I haven't been able to find anything on the signs of these two divisions.

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Arjan

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Re: Unit emblems identification help

Post by Alanmccoubrey » 28 Jan 2011 15:10

Arjan, I don't know what their insignia was either. As for the mirror image, it wouldn't be the first time an insignia was painted the wrong way around.
On the topic of 343. ID both Lexikon der Wehrmacht and Zetterling in his Normandy book show this division without any SP Anti-tank at all. This surprised me as the division does appear on the list of Lorraine/Pak 40 "owners" !
Alan

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