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Re: Organisation of SS-Pz-Gren-Div-Leibstandarte SS Adolf Hitler

Post by Leipzig » 31 May 2009 13:36

Lehmann indicated in "The Leibstandarte III pp 148 that “ The Sturmgeschuetzabteilung LAH (minus the 2. Batterie) is to be subordinated to the 2. Panzergrenadier-Regiment LAH". Through out the ongoing descriptions of the battles for Karkov etc he breaks down 2 Panzergrenadier-Regiment into the three fighting groups I, II and Peipers armour reinforced III. I could not find any information though showing just how the 1 and 3 batterie were split up within what Lehmann called the Reinforced 2. Panzergrenadier-Regiment. Is it assumed that both batterie went to Peipers III ?

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Re: Organisation of SS-Pz-Gren-Div-Leibstandarte SS Adolf Hitler

Post by j keenan » 31 May 2009 17:36

No they would have supported all three battle group's

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Re: Organisation of SS-Pz-Gren-Div-Leibstandarte SS Adolf Hitler

Post by Leipzig » 01 Jun 2009 02:02

Are there any sources or references that indicate just how the 1 & 3 Batterie of the Sturmgeschützabteilung of LAH were allocated to the re-enforced 2 Panzergrenadier-Regiment for that period of time ie operations involving Karkov, Bolgorod etc. It even appears that this arrangement was utilised months later for Operation Zitadell etc.

Further, during this particular period of time, what Sturmgeschuez variant would have been utilised by the Sturmgeschützabteilung of LAH ?

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Re: Organisation of SS-Pz-Gren-Div-Leibstandarte SS Adolf Hitler

Post by Endzeit Jan » 01 Jun 2009 08:14

Hi
For addition

Kommandeur Ogruf Sepp DIETRICH

Ia Ostubaf. Rudolf LEHMANN
Ib Ostubaf. Herbert EWERT
IIa Stubaf.Hans-Jürgen SCHILLER
IIb Ustuf. Hans RITZ

SS-Grenadier-Regiment 1 Staf Fritz WITT
Stabskompanie
16.Flak-Kompanie
17.Infanterie-Geschütz-Kompanie
18.Panzerjäger-Kompanie
I.Bataillon Stubaf Albert FREY
1.Kompanie Hstuf Heinrich SPRINGER
2.Kompanie
3.Kompanie
4.Kompanie Hstuf Hans WALDMÜLLER
5.Kompanie
II.Bataillon Stubaf Max HANSEN
6.Kompanie Hstuf WEITHER
7.Kompanie Ostuf DENECKE
8.Kompanie
9.Kompanie
10.Kompanie
III.Bataillon Stubaf. Wilhelm WEIDENHAUPT
Hstuf Hubert MEYER (Betwenn Feb.14th and March.09Th)
11.Kompanie
12.Kompanie
13.Kompanie
14.Kompanie
15.Kompanie

SS-Grenadier-Regiment 2 Staf Theodor WISCH
Stabskompanie
16.Flak-Kompanie
17.Infanterie-Geschütz-Kompanie
18.Panzerjäger-Kompanie
I.Bataillon Stubaf Hugo KRASS
1.Kompanie
2.Kompanie Hstuf Hans BECKER
3.Kompanie Hstuf BEUTLER
4.Kompanie
5.Kompanie
II.Bataillon Stubaf Rudolf SANDIG
6.Kompanie Hstuf Hans SCAPPINI
7.Kompanie
8.Kompanie
9.Kompanie
10.Kompanie
III.(Gep) Bataillon Stubaf Jochen PEIPER
11.Kompanie
12.Kompanie
13.Kompanie
14.Kompanie Hstuf Rolf KOLITZ
15.Kompanie

SS.Panzer-Regiment 1 Ostubaf Georg SCHÖNBERGER
Stabskompanie
Schwere Panzer-Kompanie Hstuf Heinrich KLING
Panzer-Pionier-Kompanie
Panzer-Werkstatt-Kompanie
I.Abteilung Stubaf Max WÜNSCHE
Stabskompanie
1.Kompanie Hstuf Arnold JÜRGENSEN
2.Kompanie Ostuf Wilhelm BECK
3.Kompanie
II.Abteilung Stubaf Martin GROSS
Stabskompanie
5.Kompanie Hstuf SCHMIDT
6.Kompanie Hstuf Hans PFEIFFER
7.Kompanie

SS.Sturmgeschütz-Abteilung.1 Stubaf Hein Von WESTERNHAGEN
Stabsbatterie
1.Batterie Hstuf Heinrich HEIMANN
2.Batterie (?) Ostuf HOLST or Hstuf Emil WIESEMANN
3.Batterie Hstuf Karl RETTLINGER

SS.Aufklarürungs-Abteilung.1 Stubaf Kurt MEYER
1.Kompanie (Rank ?) Gerhard BREMER
2.Kompanie Hstuf Herman WEISER
3.Kompanie (Rank ?) Gustav KNITTEL
4.Panzer-Späh-Kompanie
5.Kompanie Hstuf Erich OLBOETER

SS.Artillerie-Regiment.1 (Rank ?)Walter STAUDINGER
Stabsbatterie Ostuf. Krüger
Beobachtungs-Batterie Hstuf Willy MULLER
Werfer-Batterie
I.Abteilung Stubaf. Franz STEINECK
1.Batterie
2.Batterie
3.Batterie
II.Abteilung Stubaf. Ernst LUHMANN
4.Batterie
5.Batterie
6.Batterie
III.Abteilung Stubaf Fritz SCHRÖDER
7.Batterie
8.Batterie
9.Batterie
IV.Abteilung Hstuf. Leopold SeDLACZEK
10.Batterie (Werfer)
11.Batterie
12.Batterie Hstuf Erich URBANITZ

SS.Panzerjäger-Abteilung.1 Stubaf Jakob HANREICH
1.Kompanie Hstuf Karl Heinz PRINZ
2.Kompanie
3.Kompanie

SS.Flak-Abteilung.1 Stubaf Bernhard KRAUSE
Stabsbatterie
1.Batterie
2.Batterie
3.Batterie
4.Batterie
5.Batterie

SS.Pionier-Bataillon.1 Ostubaf. Christian HANSEN
1.Kompanie
2.Kompanie
3.Kompanie
4.Kompanie

SS.Nachrichten-Abteilung.1 Stubaf. Eugen Metz
1.Panzer(Fe)-Kompanie
2.Panzer(Fe)-Kompanie

SS.Wirtschafts-Bataillon.1 Ostubaf. Ernst Meyer

SS.Sanitäts-Abteilung.1 Ostubaf. Dr. Besuden

SS.Nachschub-Deinst.1 Stubaf Bernhard SIEBKEN

SS.Instandsetzungs-Abteilung.1 Stubaf.Helmuth Groß

VII.LSSAH
1.Kompanie
2.Kompanie
3.Kompanie
4.Kompanie
5.Kompanie

cheers Jan

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Re: Organisation of SS-Pz-Gren-Div-Leibstandarte SS Adolf Hitler

Post by Harro » 01 Jun 2009 10:47

No clue why somebody deleted my post so I'll repost...
Endzeit Jan wrote:Hi
For addition

Kommandeur Ogruf Sepp DIETRICH

Ia Ostubaf. Rudolf LEHMANN
Ib Ostubaf. Herbert EWERT
IIa Stubaf.Hans-Jürgen SCHILLER
IIb Ustuf. Hans RITZ

SS-Grenadier-Regiment 1 Staf Fritz WITT
Stabskompanie
16.Flak-Kompanie
17.Infanterie-Geschütz-Kompanie
18.Panzerjäger-Kompanie
I.Bataillon Stubaf Albert FREY
1.Kompanie Hstuf Heinrich SPRINGER
2.Kompanie
3.Kompanie
4.Kompanie Hstuf Hans WALDMÜLLER
5.Kompanie
II.Bataillon Stubaf Max HANSEN
6.Kompanie Hstuf WEITHER
7.Kompanie Ostuf DENECKE
8.Kompanie
9.Kompanie
10.Kompanie
III.Bataillon Stubaf. Wilhelm WEIDENHAUPT
Hstuf Hubert MEYER (Betwenn Feb.14th and March.09Th)
11.Kompanie
12.Kompanie
13.Kompanie
14.Kompanie
15.Kompanie

SS-Grenadier-Regiment 2 Staf Theodor WISCH
Stabskompanie
16.Flak-Kompanie
17.Infanterie-Geschütz-Kompanie
18.Panzerjäger-Kompanie
I.Bataillon Stubaf Hugo KRASS
1.Kompanie
2.Kompanie Hstuf Hans BECKER
3.Kompanie Hstuf BEUTLER
4.Kompanie
5.Kompanie
II.Bataillon Stubaf Rudolf SANDIG
6.Kompanie Hstuf Hans SCAPPINI
7.Kompanie
8.Kompanie
9.Kompanie
10.Kompanie
III.(Gep) Bataillon Stubaf Jochen PEIPER
11.Kompanie
12.Kompanie
13.Kompanie
14.Kompanie Hstuf Rolf KOLITZ
15.Kompanie

SS.Panzer-Regiment 1 Ostubaf Georg SCHÖNBERGER
Stabskompanie
Schwere Panzer-Kompanie Hstuf Heinrich KLING
Panzer-Pionier-Kompanie
Panzer-Werkstatt-Kompanie
I.Abteilung Stubaf Max WÜNSCHE
Stabskompanie
1.Kompanie Hstuf Arnold JÜRGENSEN
2.Kompanie Ostuf Wilhelm BECK
3.Kompanie
II.Abteilung Stubaf Martin GROSS
Stabskompanie
5.Kompanie Hstuf SCHMIDT
6.Kompanie Hstuf Hans PFEIFFER
7.Kompanie

SS.Sturmgeschütz-Abteilung.1 Stubaf Hein Von WESTERNHAGEN
Stabsbatterie
1.Batterie Hstuf Heinrich HEIMANN
2.Batterie (?) Ostuf HOLST or Hstuf Emil WIESEMANN
3.Batterie Hstuf Karl RETTLINGER

SS.Aufklarürungs-Abteilung.1 Ostubaf Kurt MEYER
Stabskompanie Ostuf Fritz MONTAG
1.Kompanie Hstuf Gerhard BREMER
2.Kompanie Ostuf Herman WEISER
3.Kompanie Hstuf Gustav KNITTEL
4.Panzer-Späh-Kompanie Ostuf Karl BöTTCHER
5.Kompanie Hstuf Erich OLBOETER

SS.Artillerie-Regiment.1 (Rank ?)Walter STAUDINGER
Stabsbatterie Ostuf. Krüger
Beobachtungs-Batterie Hstuf Willy MULLER
Werfer-Batterie
I.Abteilung Stubaf. Franz STEINECK
1.Batterie
2.Batterie
3.Batterie
II.Abteilung Stubaf. Ernst LUHMANN
4.Batterie
5.Batterie
6.Batterie
III.Abteilung Stubaf Fritz SCHRÖDER
7.Batterie
8.Batterie
9.Batterie
IV.Abteilung Hstuf. Leopold SeDLACZEK
10.Batterie (Werfer)
11.Batterie
12.Batterie Hstuf Erich URBANITZ

SS.Panzerjäger-Abteilung.1 Stubaf Jakob HANREICH
1.Kompanie Hstuf Karl Heinz PRINZ
2.Kompanie
3.Kompanie

SS.Flak-Abteilung.1 Stubaf Bernhard KRAUSE
Stabsbatterie
1.Batterie
2.Batterie
3.Batterie
4.Batterie
5.Batterie

SS.Pionier-Bataillon.1 Ostubaf. Christian HANSEN
1.Kompanie
2.Kompanie
3.Kompanie
4.Kompanie

SS.Nachrichten-Abteilung.1 Stubaf. Eugen Metz
1.Panzer(Fe)-Kompanie
2.Panzer(Fe)-Kompanie

SS.Wirtschafts-Bataillon.1 Ostubaf. Ernst Meyer

SS.Sanitäts-Abteilung.1 Ostubaf. Dr. Besuden

SS.Nachschub-Deinst.1 Stubaf Bernhard SIEBKEN

SS.Instandsetzungs-Abteilung.1 Stubaf.Helmuth Groß

VII.LSSAH
1.Kompanie
2.Kompanie
3.Kompanie
4.Kompanie
5.Kompanie

cheers Jan

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Re: Organisation of SS-Pz-Gren-Div-Leibstandarte SS Adolf Hitler

Post by Ste » 02 Jun 2009 09:22

On 15.2.1943, near Bereka, was in action Frey's batalion or the pioneer?Or toghether, mixed?

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Re: Organisation of SS-Pz-Gren-Div-Leibstandarte SS Adolf Hitler

Post by Christoph Awender » 02 Jun 2009 09:51

HEllo Harro,

I deleted your post.. it is a quote.. same post as from Jan or did I miss something?

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Re: Organisation of SS-Pz-Gren-Div-Leibstandarte SS Adolf Hitler

Post by Jan-Hendrik » 02 Jun 2009 11:11

No, Timo added and corrected some points in the quoted list :wink:

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Post by Christoph Awender » 02 Jun 2009 13:26

Jan-Hendrik wrote:No, Timo added and corrected some points in the quoted list :wink:

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Ah Ok.. please don´t use the quite function then but just copy and paste.

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Re: Organisation of SS-Pz-Gren-Div-Leibstandarte SS Adolf Hitler

Post by Harro » 02 Jun 2009 13:56

Indeed, I added some names, ranks and a company to the Aufklärungsabteilung and quoted the complete list to keep the overview in intact :)

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Re: Organisation of SS-Pz-Gren-Div-Leibstandarte SS Adolf Hitler

Post by Harro » 02 Jun 2009 13:58

Ste wrote:On 15.2.1943, near Bereka, was in action Frey's batalion or the pioneer?Or toghether, mixed?
3./AA LAH (Knittel) saw action at Bereka that day and suffered heavy casualties.

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Re: Organisation of SS-Pz-Gren-Div-Leibstandarte SS Adolf Hitler

Post by Daniel L » 04 Oct 2009 18:12

Where can I find a list which details the type and numbers of the various vehicles and artillery/mortar pieces which the division had available during the fighting for Kharkov?

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Re: Organisation of SS-Pz-Gren-Div-Leibstandarte SS Adolf Hitler

Post by Ste » 13 Oct 2009 19:42

I have one question about the Panzer Rgt:every abteilung had 3 or 4 Kompanies?and who was in command of the 7th?Astheger or Alt?

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Re: Organisation of SS-Pz-Gren-Div-Leibstandarte SS Adolf Hitler

Post by j keenan » 15 Oct 2009 16:43

Hi Ste
Astegher,Hans SS-Obersturmfhurer 7.2.42-22.2.42
Alt,Heinrich SS-Obersturmfhurer 11.11.42-24.2.43
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Post by Ste » 02 Apr 2010 13:37

Hstuf Weither was killed in war?

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