Sturmgeschütz Abteilung 667.

[hero.]

Hello Martin !

Thank you very much for all the detailed informations and the
superb explanation of the roles of the supporting units in combat !

Really appreciated !

Best regards,

hero.

[Darkhorse]

Found an awesome picture to back up an argument I was having with a local guy who said StuG's were just for killing MG nests and couldn't fight with tanks. Thought I'd share it here.

[JABIER]

Hello,

From "The German Wehrmacht in the last days of the war", by Professor Percy Ernst Schramm. FMS C-020

On 11 January an order of the Fuehrer (effective at 0145 hours on 12 January) directed that the 7th Parachute Division, reinforced by 384th and 667th Assault Gun Brigades and the 10th SS Panzer Division should be committed as soon as possible in a attack from the area Forstfeld-Binheim towards Drusenheim by way of Roeschwoog in order to stablish a connection with the 503d Infantry Division.

[Freebird]

Darkhorse,

No, although already ordered to be formed several months earlier the 4th (infantry), 5th and 6th (Pz. II) batteries did not join the brigade at the front until June 1944 after formation and training had been completed. During the following summer battles the brigade was almost destroyed and when it was reformed later only a new 4th (infantry) battery was raised again.

Battlefield reconnaisance had to be provided by the higher command the brigade was subordinated to. The 5th and 6th (Pz. II) batteries were not used for recce but simply for fire support. Together with the 4th (infantry) battery they were supposed to eliminate all possible flank threats - except tanks - to the Sturmgeschütze whith their limited arcs of fire, i.e. smother enemy positions with machine gun and 20 mm rapid fire to keep away enemy infantry trying to attack with any close combat a/t weapons and keep enemy a/t crews from properly operating their guns etc.

The brigade had a Pionier-Zug in the 4th (infantry) battery, that's all.

Martin Block

Did not some of the Stug brigades have a battalion of motorized infantry attached?

[Alanmccoubrey]

Where did you get that idea ?

[Freebird]

]
Jul 44 almost wiped out during the Soviet summer offensive
Fall 44 remnants consolidated with remnants of Sturmgeschütz-Brigade 245 and rebuilt
Sep-Oct 44 the Netherlands, assigned to Kampfgruppe Chill

Is There a good reference for their actions in Sept 1944?

They don't appear to have faced XXX Corps, so I'm assuming that they would have engaged Richie's XII Corps in the Turnhout / Tilburg area?

[Ron_Wynn]

First Canadian Army, II Canadian Corps during the Battle of the Scheldt in the Woensdrecht - Bergen op Zoom areas. Attached to Kampfgruppe Chill.

[Tom Peters]

From the hits in the records you can infer where it was located:


667 Stug Brig (sturm artillerie structure)



Findbuch 12482 Akte 383 (Art.Rgt.1712 KTB Oct-Dec)

Nov 14 (026)



Findbuch 12482 Akte 433 (Pz.Gr.Rgt.104 KTB Sep-Dec 1944)

Nov 22 (141)
Nov 23 (143)
Nov 23 (144)



220-2.1 (XX corps G-2 periodic reports March 1945)

Mar 24 (per. rpt. 227)



RH26-905/2 (Div.905 KTB)

Jan 19 (043)
Jan 21 (046b)



Findbuch 12475 Akte 270 (47th Pz. Korps KTB Nov.1-24)

Nov 20 (178)
Nov 20 (184)
Nov 21 (199)
Nov 22 (226)
Nov 22 (237b)
Nov 23 (254)
Nov 23 (255)
Nov 23 (256)

Nov 24 (267)



212-2.1 (XII Corps G-2 periodic reports March 1945)

Mar 19 (per. rpt. 217)
Mar 20 (per. rpt. 218)
Mar 21 (per. rpt. 219) (“stug 665”)
Mar 23 (per. rpt. 221)



Findbuch 12473 Akte 53 (15/25th Army KTB ?))

Nov 15 (002)
Nov 15 (016)
Nov 15 (021)
Nov 15 (147)




RH26-905/1 (Div.905 KTB)

Jan 19 (010)
Jan 22 (013) (“stug 664”)



Findbuch 12475 Akte 276 (47th Pz Korps KTB Nov-Dec 1944)

Nov 25 (013)
Nov 25 (029)
Nov 26 (041)
Nov 29 (134)



203-2.1 (III Corps G-2 periodic reports April 1945)

April 19 (per. rpt. 129)
April 20 (per. rpt. 130)
April 21 (per. rpt. 131)
April 22 (per. rpt. 132)



206-2.1 (VI Corps G-2 periodic reports April 1945)

April 10 (per. rpt. 238)



WO-171-4029 (Br. VIII corps INT SUM February 1945)

Feb 25 (IS#193)



215-2.1 (XV corps G-2 periodic reports March 1945)

Mar 24 (per. rpt. 222)
Mar 28 (per. rpt. 226)
Mar 29 (per. rpt. 227)
Mar 30 (per. rpt. 228)
Mar 31 (per. rpt. 229)



206-2.1 (VI corps G-2 periodic reports March 1945)

March 27 (per. rpt. 224)



215-2.1 (XV Corps G-2 periodic reports December 1944)

Dec 5 (per. rpt. 113)



WO-171-4076 (British XXX Corps INT SUM reports February 1945)

Feb 26 (INT SUM #610)



WO-171-2697 (II Canadian Corps November 1944)

Nov 16 (INT SUM #83)



216-2.1 (XVI corps G-2 per. rpts. February 1945)

Feb 26 (per. rpt. 21)



WO-171-342 (Br. XXX Corps INT SUM October 1944)

Oct 26 (INT SUM #530)



T314 R1133 (47th Pz Korps)

Nov 26 (663)
Nov 22 (667)



WO-171-288 (Br. VIII Corps Oct.44 INT SUM)

Oct 22 (INT SUM #92)
Oct 24 (INT SUM #94)
Oct 26 (INT SUM #96)



RH24-47/251 (47th Pz Korps)

Nov 26 (210)
Nov 26 ? (215) (s)
Nov 23 (216)
Nov 22 (217)
Nov 22 (218)
Nov 22 (219)
Nov 23 (252)
Nov 22 (255)
Nov 22 (257)



N-756-90 (Vopersal XII SS Corps)

093.jpg

094.jpg



208-2.1 (VIII Corps G-2 December 1944)

Dec 12 (per. rpt. 178)



208-2.1 (VIII Corps G-2 November 1944)

Nov 9 (per. rpt. 145)



207-2.1 (VII corps G-2 December 1944)

Dec 10 (per. rpt.188)



T78 R270

Nov 20 (6217920)
Dec 20 (6218029)



T78 R314

Dec 17 (6267035)
Dec 20 (6267072)



207-2.1 (VII Corps G-2 November)

Nov 1



RH24-80/70 (LXXX Corps)

March 19 (342)



T78 R398

(6368189)



T78 R624

April 14 (512) ("Stug.665")
April 15 (521)



T78 R720 (frame numbers approximate, starting form H16/159)

Feb 5 (127)



T311 R016 (HeeresGroup D)

Oct 4 (7017466)
Oct 5 (7017475)
Oct 8 (7017487)
Oct 10 (7017497)


T311 R017 (Heeresgroup D)

Oct 26 (7018052)
Oct 26 (7018055)
Nov 3 (7018311)
Nov 10 (7018511)


T311 R018 (Heeresgroup D)

Nov 16 (7020405)
Dec 4 (7020523)
Dec 4 (7020680)
Dec 16 (7020717)



T311 R020 (Heeresgroup D)

Oct 12 (7022960)
Oct 13 (7022988)
Oct 14 (7023018)
Oct 15 (7023049)
Oct 16 (7023083)
Oct 18 (7023108)
Oct 19 (7023155)
Oct 20 (7023165)



T311 R030 (Heeresgroup D)

Oct 4 (7037233)
Oct 4 (7037277)
Oct 8 (7037342)
Oct 10 (7037390)
Nov 20 (7037752)
Nov 20 (7037755)
Nov 23 (7037832)
Nov 25 (7037909)
Nov 28 (7038016)
Nov 28 (7038030)
Nov 29 (7038051)
Nov 30 (7038083)
Dec 4 (7038240)
Dec 5 (7038288)



T311 R031 (Heeresgroup D)

Dec 16 (7038584)
Dec 16 (7038605)
Dec 17 (7038621)



T314 R1594 (LXXXI Corps)

Nov 25 (0633)
Nov 26 (0635)
Nov 29 (0658)
Nov 29 (0659)
Nov 29 (0660)
Nov 30 (0663)
Nov 26 (0828)
Nov 29 (0834)



T314 R1595 (LXXXI Corps)

Nov 26 (0399)
Nov 27 (0401)
Nov 26 (0404)
Nov 26 (0410)
Nov 26 (0416) (s)
Nov 27 (0430) (s)
Nov 28 (0441) (s)
Nov 29 (0452)
Nov 26 (651)
Nov 29 (667)
Nov 30 (674)
Dec 22 (849)
Nov 25 (1084)
Nov 26 (1101) (s)
Nov 28 (1114)



T314 R1596 (LXXXI Corps)

Nov 27 (590)
Nov 28 (592)



T314 R1597 (LXXXI Corps)

Nov 25 (205)


LXXXVIII KTB (T314 R1623)

Oct 15
Oct 16
Oct 18
Oct 19
Nov 7
Nov 14
Nov 15


T314 R1625 (LXXXVIII anlage)

Oct 19 (000536)
Oct 18 (000540)
Oct 18 (000541)
Nov 15 (000353)
Nov 15 (000356)
Nov 14 (000359)
Nov 13 (000370)
Nov 11 (000378)
Nov 10 (000385)
Nov 7 (000402)
Nov 7 (000404)


T314 R1626 (LXXXVIII anlage)

Sept 29 (000364)
Oct 21 (000274)
Oct 16 (000294)
Oct 16 (000295)
Oct 14 (000296)
Oct 14 (000297)
Nov 15 (000204)
Nov 8 (000216)


T314 R1627 (LXXXVIII anlage)

Nov 8 (000862)
Nov 14 (000916)
Nov 15 (000922)




T314 R1667 (LXXXVIII anlage)

Nov 14 (000832)
Nov 9 (000902)



T311 R4, 75805, frame 7003433 (Oct 5)
T311 R4, 75805, frame 7003443 (Oct 6)
T311 R4, 75805, frame 7003447 (Oct 6)
T311 R4, 75805, frame 7003541 (Oct 10)
T311 R4, 75805, frame 7003549 (Oct 10)
T311 R4, 75805, frame 7003554 (Oct 6)
T311 R4, 75805, frame 7003570 (Oct 12)



Tagesmeldung OB West (T78 R313, H22/61)

Oct 18
Oct 20


Tagesmeldung OB West (T78 R313, H22/62)

Nov 10


Tagesmeldung OB West (T78 R313, H22/63)

Nov 25
Nov 28
Nov 29
Nov 30



T78 R408

(6376839)
(6376840)
(6376845)
(6376846)
(6377426)
(6377427)



T78 R415

(6383507)


T78 R418

Oct 6 (6387828)
Nov 23 (6387956)


T78 R520

Oct 10 (431)
Oct 20 (451)
Dec 11 (586)
Dec 20 (613)





T311 R145 (HeeresGroup G)

Jan 10 (7190994)
Jan 12 (7191004)
Jan 12 (7191005)
Jan 12 (7191007)
Jan 26 (7191074)
Jan 26 (7191077)
Jan 27 (7191082)
Feb 4 (7191133)
Feb 4 (7191136)
Jan 26 (7191607)
Jan 26 (7191614)
Jan 26 (7191617)
Jan 26 (7191619) (s)
Jan 27 (7191628)
Feb 4 (7191837)
Feb 4 (7191845)
Feb 5 (7191868)
Feb 5 (7191873)
Feb 5 (7191874)
Feb 6 (7191898)
Feb 8 (7191938)
Feb 8 (7191939)
Feb 8 (7191940)
Feb 10 (7191968)
Feb 10 (7191987)
Feb 11 (7192004)
Feb 12 (7192012)
Feb 22 (7192284)
Feb 25 (7192340)



T311 R146 (HeeresGroup G)

Jan 16 (7192431)
March 4 (7192994)



T312 R111 (1st Parachute Army - misfiled from 1st Army)

March 13 1945 (7640233)

Mad Dog

[Piet Duits]

Oh boy, do I have some additional information for you guys

The Sturm-Artilerie-Brigade 667 was 4th Army reserve in June 44.
The 4. (Sturmgeschütz-Begleit) Batterie (chef Oblt Schäfer) and 5. (Begleit-Panzer) Batterie (Führer Oblt. Bertuch) reached the 4th Army on 28.5.1944, whilst the 6. (Begleit-Panzer) Batterie (Führer Oblt. Harnack) reached the area of Chljustino on the 13.6.44.
They had the first casualty of the upcoming offensive on the 21.6.1944. All in all, the number of recorded KIA and WIA were light, however there were many MIA's.
On the 27.7.44 the remnants of the Brigade were 7 Offiziere, 4 Beamte, 115 Uffz. and 375 Mannsch.
Over the period of 21.6.-21.7.44 the Brigade lost 17 Offz., 1 Beamter, 100 Uffz. and 224 Mannsch.
Amongst the losses were the Brigade CO, Major Rudolf Zettler. The 5. and 6. Begl.Pz. Battr. lost all 6 of their officers, the 4. StuG.Begl. Battr. Chef was with the 7 remaining officers.
The Stab und Stabsbatterie were nearly completely intact, having only lost 22 men, of which were 5 Offz., 1 Beamte, 5 Uffz. and only 11 Mannsch.
The 1. Battr. lost 2 Offz., 17 Uffz. and 28 Mannsch.,
The 2. Battr. lost 2 Offz., 14 Uffz. and 25 Mannsch.
The 3. Battr. lost 2 Offz., 22 Uffz. and 47 Mannsch.
The 4. Battr. lost 12 Uffz. and 75 Mannsch. (SOLL: 1/30/177)
The 5. Battr. lost 3 Offz., 18 Uffz. and 26 Mannsch. (SOLL 3/39/50)
The 6. Battr. lost 3 Offz., 12 Uffz. and 17 Mannsch. (SOLL 3/39/50)

Sources: T78 R269, BA B 563/110520, T312 R242

[pintere]

Oh boy, do I have some additional information for you guys

The Sturm-Artilerie-Brigade 667 was 4th Army reserve in June 44.
The 4. (Sturmgeschütz-Begleit) Batterie (chef Oblt Schäfer) and 5. (Begleit-Panzer) Batterie (Führer Oblt. Bertuch) reached the 4th Army on 28.5.1944, whilst the 6. (Begleit-Panzer) Batterie (Führer Oblt. Harnack) reached the area of Chljustino on the 13.6.44.
They had the first casualty of the upcoming offensive on the 21.6.1944. All in all, the number of recorded KIA and WIA were light, however there were many MIA's.
On the 27.7.44 the remnants of the Brigade were 7 Offiziere, 4 Beamte, 115 Uffz. and 375 Mannsch.
Over the period of 21.6.-21.7.44 the Brigade lost 17 Offz., 1 Beamter, 100 Uffz. and 224 Mannsch.
Amongst the losses were the Brigade CO, Major Rudolf Zettler. The 5. and 6. Begl.Pz. Battr. lost all 6 of their officers, the 4. StuG.Begl. Battr. Chef was with the 7 remaining officers.
The Stab und Stabsbatterie were nearly completely intact, having only lost 22 men, of which were 5 Offz., 1 Beamte, 5 Uffz. and only 11 Mannsch.
The 1. Battr. lost 2 Offz., 17 Uffz. and 28 Mannsch.,
The 2. Battr. lost 2 Offz., 14 Uffz. and 25 Mannsch.
The 3. Battr. lost 2 Offz., 22 Uffz. and 47 Mannsch.
The 4. Battr. lost 12 Uffz. and 75 Mannsch. (SOLL: 1/30/177)
The 5. Battr. lost 3 Offz., 18 Uffz. and 26 Mannsch. (SOLL 3/39/50)
The 6. Battr. lost 3 Offz., 12 Uffz. and 17 Mannsch. (SOLL 3/39/50)

Sources: T78 R269, BA B 563/110520, T312 R242

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