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Tank leader!

Post by +german+ » 23 Feb 2003 15:10

Hello!
Please,can somebody give me a picture of the best german tank leader of WW2????
Thank you! :cry:

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Post by Benoit Douville » 24 Feb 2003 01:51

Kurt Knispel with 162+ victories was the best Panzer Ace.

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Post by +german+ » 24 Feb 2003 11:29

Thank you for the information!Do you have a picture please so i add it to my collection!Or you know somebody who have???

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Post by Benoit Douville » 24 Feb 2003 22:05

I was trying to find a picture on the web yesterday but I didn't find it. I have some in my collection but my scanner is Kaput right now...

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Post by Daniel L » 24 Feb 2003 23:21

Image

http://www.tigerinmud.com/Human/knispel/knispel.htm

Here's a picture of Kurt Knispel.

Best regards/ Daniel

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Post by Redbaron1908 » 24 Feb 2003 23:53

thnaks for the picture daniel very intresting when i try to find pictures on the internet i get nothing its usless for me

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Post by John W » 24 Feb 2003 23:58

Benoit Douville wrote:Kurt Knipsel with 162+ victories was the best Panzer Ace.

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No kidding. And here was everyone lionizing Wittmann... :roll:

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Post by Eightball » 25 Feb 2003 22:20

what tank did he operate?

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Post by Redbaron1908 » 25 Feb 2003 22:24

who operated what

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Post by John W » 28 Feb 2003 23:06

:lol: :lol: :lol:

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Post by R-Bob The Great! » 01 Mar 2003 07:48

Sturmgeshutz III?

I think I remember reading that somewere but I may be mistaken with another.

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Tank leader!

Post by Silviu » 02 Mar 2003 17:08

Hi Gents,

SS-Hauptsturmfuhrer Michael Wittmann was the most successful and famous tank commander of World War II. There is no doubt about this !
Not mentioning him when talking about pancer aces is like talking about WW1 fighter aces and not mentioning von Richthoffen. For further reading, check this link.

users.pandora.be/dave.depickere/Text/wittman.html

or order from amazon.com

Tiger Ace/the Life Story of Panzer Commander Michael Wittmann
by Gary L. Simpson
ISBN: 0887405266

Thanks,
Silviu

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Re: Tank leader!

Post by Timo » 02 Mar 2003 19:16

Silviu wrote:SS-Hauptsturmfuhrer Michael Wittmann was the most successful and famous tank commander of World War II. There is no doubt about this !
...No he was not, because there were several tank commanders who scored more kills. He was indeed the most famous, which explains why everybody assumes that he was the most successful.

- Kurt Knispel (s.Pz.Abt. 503) 168 tank kills
- Walter Schroif (s.SS-Pz.Abt.102) 161 tank kills
- Otto Carius (s.Pz.Abt. 502) 150+ tank kills
- Johannes Bölter (s.Pz.Abt. 502) 139-144 tank kills
- Michael Wittmann 138 tank kills
Not mentioning him when talking about pancer aces is like talking about WW1 fighter aces and not mentioning von Richthoffen.
No, its nothing like that because contrairy to Wittmann, who was not the mosy successful ace panzerzace of WW2, Von Richthofen was indeed the most successful fighterpilot in WW1.
or order from amazon.com
Tiger Ace/the Life Story of Panzer Commander Michael Wittmann
by Gary L. Simpson
ISBN: 0887405266
...Hardly worth reading. It's a poor pastice of facts, myths and plain lies from earlier publications. In one word: crap

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Post by Wolfkin » 03 Mar 2003 01:45

Timo,

Do you have more info on Walter Schroif? I can not find too much on him, he did not win the Knight's Cross, so it is hard to find a biography. I have seen him on a Panzer Ace list before but then on other lists his name does not appear. He must have been one of those guys in the shadows, so to speak. Thank you in advance!

Cheers,

Wolfkin

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Post by Timo » 03 Mar 2003 02:05

Untersturmführer Martin Schroif (not Walter. My mistake)
Gressenich , 22.02.1915 - 16.08.1979 (SS-Nr.287 993)
Panzerkommandant im 2.Kompanie/s.SS-Pz.Abt.502

I don't have other details. Perhaps you should try the forum of the s.SS-Pz.Abt.502 veterans at http://www.ss-panzer.de He is listed their in the personalliste.

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