21. and 22. SS-Pz.Gren.Rgt. - Sept/Oct 1944

[radevich]

Obersturmbannführer SATTLER Karl

SS-Nr.: 46.237

Promotions:
SS-Untersturmführer: 20.04.1936

[corridor]

Richter went half october to FEB 10 in Goor untill december.
He took over command of the FEB.

[Kriegsberichter]

Thanks Corridor, explanes that he was not with the Pz.Gren Regts !

[Tom Peters]

Do any of you guys have the 10th SS (or 9th) material from BAMA ? While I dont have the index in front of me, I seem to recall those RS- files had some potential.

Mad Dog

[Pena V]

FEB 10 = SS-Feld-Ersatz-Bataillon 10?

Pena V

[Jampe]

FEB 10 = SS-Feld-Ersatz-Bataillon 10?

Pena V

Yes, FEB 10 is abbrev. for (SS-)Feld-Ersatz-Bataillon 10

/Jampe

[Orpoman]

Hello

I did some time ago in another forum very interesting parts of the Kriegstagebuch (KTB) SS-Pz.Gren.Rgt. 21 "Frundsberg" set, from period March / April 1945.

http://www.forum-der-wehrmacht.de/threa ... adid=20057

Best Regards Daniel

[Pena V]

Thanks to Radevich's comment on Sattler's promotion date I started digging deeper and just found out that there are actually two Sattlers in Waffen-SS - Carl and Karl! To this date I have happily mixed them. Here they are:

Obersturmbannführer SATTLER Carl
Born: 06 Oct 1891
Died: ?
SS-Nr.: 19 474 (joined 1931)

Promotions:
02 Apr 1932 Sturmführer
15 Sep 1932 Sturmhauptführer
09 Nov 1933 Sturmbannführer
16 Mar 1934 Obersturmbannführer
03 Jun 1934 Standartenführer
20 Apr 1935 Oberführer
08 Jan 1940 Obersturmbannfuhrer (Waffen-SS)

Assignments:
01 Jun 1939 - 18 Dec 1940...SS-Totenkop-Infanterie-Ersatz-Bataillon II
08 Jul 1941 - 21 Oct 1941....SS-Infanterie-Regiment 10
- 29 Apr 1942..................SS-Totenkopf-Infanterie-Ersatz-Bataillon III
- 1943..........................with 1. SS-Infanterie-Brigade
1943............................WIA
(Jan 1944) - (Jan 1944)......with HSSPF Russland-Süd
(Jun 1944) - (Jun 1944)......with SS-Personal-Haupt-Amt

Major awards:
EK II

Sturmbannführer SATTLER Karl
Born: 15 Jan 1913
Died: 30 Nov 1996
SS-Nr.: 46 237

Promotions:
20 Apr 1936 Untersturmführer
30 Jan 1938 Obersturmführer
20 Apr 1940 Hauptsturmführer

Assignments:
20 Apr 1944 - 1944........SS-Unterführer-Schule "Radofzell"
1944 - 1944................IIa/SS-Panzergrenadier-Regiment 21
(Oct 1944) - (Oct 1944)...III/SS-Panzergrenadier-Regiment 21
(16 Jan 1945)..............KG Sattler

Major Awards:
26 Oct 1941 EK II
19 Dec 1941VR 3 (finn.)
14 Apr 1944 EK I
16 Jan 1945 RK

Regards,

Pena V

[radevich]

Obersturmbannführer SATTLER Carl

SS-Nr.: 19 474 (joined 1931)

Promotions:

08 Jan 1940 Obersturmbannfuhrer (Waffen-SS)

Assignments:
01 Jun 1939 - 18 Dec 1940...SS-Totenkop-Infanterie-Ersatz-Bataillon II

Kdr. SS-Totenkop-Infanterie-Ersatz-Bataillon II: 08.01.1940 - 18.12.1940

[Revellations]

Do any of you guys have the 10th SS (or 9th) material from BAMA ? While I dont have the index in front of me, I seem to recall those RS- files had some potential.

Mad Dog

Tom,

I only have RS3-9-5 which is more about the 9th SS-Pz Div around this time and doesnt mention 10th SS Pz Division at all. This is the only file I have got. Would be interested in seeing the references you are talking about.

Cheers

Scott

[Revellations]

Peter,

I found in my archives tonight a list of Frundsberg officers and men that won the EKI for actions in Arnhem. Listed 4th from the top is SS-Hstuf Hans Lohr, I./SS-Pz.Gren Regt 21.....so i think this is your man to command the I battalion during the battle of Arnhem.

Cheers

Scott

[Tom Peters]

For RS3-9, I flagged -5, -6, -7, and possibly -28, and -29 as useful for the time period.
For RS3-10, I flagged -4, -13, -33 as possibly useful.

What about Vosperal ? Many of those files are now open.

Mad Dog

[Pena V]

Radevich,

I was aware of Sattler's alternative dates in SS-Totenkopf-Infanterie-Ersatz-Bataillon II. Actually there are at least 3 alternative dates:
1. 01 Jun 1939 - 18 Dec 1940
2. 08 Jan 1940 - 18 Dec 1940
3. ?? Mar 1940 - ?? Jul 1941
The easiest way to find out the right dates would be to know whom did he succeed and who succeeded him. Do you have that information? Yesterday I was able to find some more information about Sattler but this is a bit off topic because this Sattler is not the Sattler we are supposed to study in this thread.

Regards,

Pena V

[Pena V]

Some more information about Richter:

Assignments:
01 Aug 1941 - 01 Jan 1942...14./SS-Infanterie-Regiment "Deutschland"
(Jul 1942) - 13 Feb 1943......5./SS-Panzergrenadier-Regiment "Deutschland"
13 Feb 1943....................WIA
1943 - 1943....................SS-Feld-Ersatz-Bataillon 2
Nov 1943 - May 1944..........Instructor/SS-Junkerschule "Bad Tölz"
May 1944 - Jul 1944...........with SS-Artillerie-Schule

Regards,

Pena V

[corridor]

Hello Pena,

My info says he was from half april '44 instead of may '44 at the SS Artillerie Schule Beneschau.