?? on Pz.Rgt organization in early 1943

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castro323
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?? on Pz.Rgt organization in early 1943

Post by castro323 » 11 May 2013 22:38

Hi,

I was wondering if this is the correct organization of the following units in early 1943

SS-PzGren.Rgt LAH
I./ - 1./ , 2./ , 3./ = Pz.IVG
II./ - 5./ , 6./ , 7./ = Pz.IVG
4./ = Pz.VIE

SS-PzGren.Rgt Das Reich
I./ - 1./ = Pz.IVG , 2./ = Pz.IIIM , 3./ = Pz.IVG , 4./ = Pz.IIIM
II./ - 5./ = Pz.IIIM , 6./ = Pz.IVG , 7./ = Pz.IIIM
8./ = Pz.VIE

SS-PzGren.Rgt Totenkopf
I./ - 1./ , 2./ = Pz.IIIM , 3./ = Pz.IVG
II./ - 5./ , 6./ = Pz.IIIM , 7./ = Pz.IVG
4./ = Pz.VIE

Inf.Div Grossdeutschland
I./ - 1./ , 2./ , 3./ = Pz.IVG
II./ - 5./ , 6./ , 7./ = Pz.IVG
13./ - Pz.VIE

6.Pz.-Div
I./ - 1./ , 2./ , 3./ = Pz.IIIM , 4./ = Pz.IVG
II./ - 5./ , 6./ , 7./ = Pz.IIIM , 8./ = Pz.IVG

11.Pz.-Div
I./ - 1./ , 2./ = Pz.IIIM , 3./ = Pz.IVG
II./ - 4./ , 5./ = Pz.IIIM , 6./ = Pz.IVG
III./ - 7./ , 8./ = Pz.IIIM , 9./ = Pz.IVG

I appreciate if any corrections.
Thanks,
Apollo

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Re: ?? on Pz.Rgt organization in early 1943

Post by EugE » 15 May 2013 12:19

Do you have information about PzBef and their distribution in PzRgt for LSSAH DR & TK at the beginning of 1943?
Look for it and you will find it...

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Re: ?? on Pz.Rgt organization in early 1943

Post by castro323 » 15 May 2013 20:30

The only information I know about the PzBef in early 1943 is

February 1943 (coming from France to Ukraine)
Nachr.Zug / Stab / SS-Pz.Rgt LAH = 6 x PzBef.III
GefechtsStab / I. / SS-Pz.Rgt LAH = 2 x PzBef.III
GefechtsStab / II. / SS-Pz.Rgt LAH = 2 x PzBef.III

Nachr.Zug / Stab / SS-Pz.Rgt Das Reich = 5 x PzBef.III
GefechtsStab / I. / SS-Pz.Rgt Das Reich = 2 x PzBef.III
GefechtsStab / II. / SS-Pz.Rgt Das Reich = 2 x PzBef.III

Nachr.Zug / Stab / SS-Pz.Rgt Totenkopf = 5 x PzBef.III
GefechtsStab / I. / SS-Pz.Rgt Totenkopf = 2 x PzBef.III
GefechtsStab / II. / SS-Pz.Rgt Totenkopf = 2 x PzBef.III

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Re: ?? on Pz.Rgt organization in early 1943

Post by EugE » 16 May 2013 16:38

According to the KStN from 11.1941 the stab PzRgt & PzAbt must be equipped by:
Radio sets authorized by the K.A.N. for panzer unit 01.02.1941

PzRgt. Stab
N. zug - 2 grBef(large armored command vehicle) Fu 8 & Fu 6, 1 PzKpfw III Fu 5
L. zug - 1 PzKpfw II Fu 5 & Fu 2, 2 PzKpfw II Fu 5, 2 PzKpfw II Fu 2.

PzAbt. Stab
N. zug - 2 grBef Fu 6 & Fu 2, 1 PzKpfw III Fu 5
L. zug - 1 PzKpfw II Fu 5 & Fu 2, 2 PzKpfw II Fu 5, 2 PzKpfw II Fu 2
Look for it and you will find it...

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Re: ?? on Pz.Rgt organization in early 1943

Post by EugE » 22 May 2013 04:28

castro323 wrote:The only information I know about the PzBef in early 1943 is
Nachr.Zug / Stab / SS-Pz.Rgt Das Reich = 5 x PzBef.III
GefechtsStab / I. / SS-Pz.Rgt Das Reich = 2 x PzBef.III
GefechtsStab / II. / SS-Pz.Rgt Das Reich = 2 x PzBef.III

Stab of SS-Pz.Rgt Das Reich consisted from 2 PzBefw III & 1 PzKpfw IV + 5 Pzkpfw II - information is taken from the book "Das Reich on the east front"
Stab of II. / SS-Pz.Rgt Das Reich 2 PzBefw III & 1 PzKpfw III Ausf М/L60 - on the basis of photos B 11, B 13.
Where were more 5 Pzkpfw II isn't known to me, most likely in Stab I. / SS-Pz.Rgt Das Reich?
Look for it and you will find it...

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Re: ?? on Pz.Rgt organization in early 1943

Post by EugE » 05 Mar 2023 14:03

Documents of SS-Pz.Abt Das Reich shows that on August 15 1942:
Stab.komp. le.Pz.Zug.(must be 5 Pz II)
1th&2nd Pz.komp were consisted as one le.Pz.Zug(must be 5 Pz II)and three Pz.Zug. with Pz III.
3rd Pz.komp is one le.Pz.Zug(must be 5 Pz II), three Pz.Zug with Pz IV and three H.(halb)Zug.

Next document from December 14 shows that were created II./SS-Pz.Rgt 2&PzRgt Stab/Stab.komp le.Pz.Zug.(must be 5 Pz II)
Stab.komp. 1.Pz.Zug.
4th&5nd Pz.komp are three Pz.Zug. with Pz III.
6rd Pz.komp is as two Pz.Zug with Pz IV and two H.(halb)Zug.

10 Pz II’s, delivered on the 5.6.42, no more Pz II's were allocated to DR PzRgt.

The question Nr.1: what is a H.(halb)Zug. mean?
Nr.2: how were Pz II located among PzRgt units?
Look for it and you will find it...

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