Obscure Axis combat units of WW2

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Post by Necros » 20 Jan 2004, 12:02

ChrisMAg2 wrote:I forgot to post:
We had KG 200 of the Luftwaffe, what about Div. Brandenburger for the Army?
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You should be able to find some information regarding the Brandenburg commandos under this link.

http://www.eliteforces.freewire.co.uk/index.htm

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Post by Necros » 20 Jan 2004, 14:20

Martin Månsson wrote:Does anyone have information about the Luftwaffe KG 200??

One mysterious unit not much is known about.

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Hope this site might be of some interest to you.

http://www.2worldwar2.com/kg200.htm

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Post by Big Vern » 20 Jan 2004, 15:18

Hi

[/quote]Do you mean James Lucas' book?


Yes I,m about half way through now, just into Russia. I'm enjoying this book.
Have you read it ? If so what do you think ?
ONE DAY I'LL GET THIS QUOTE THING SORTED :) :) :) :) :)

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Post by General » 20 Jan 2004, 17:29

Big Vern wrote: Yes I,m about half way through now, just into Russia. I'm enjoying this book.
Have you read it ? If so what do you think ?
I liked the first part of the book about the Brandenburgers and the special untis of the Kriegsmarine. Before this book I read Lucas' book Storming Eagles which I liked very much but Kommando is less detailed. But still I think it's a good buy (also because it's cheap :wink: ).

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Post by Big Vern » 20 Jan 2004, 18:28

Hi General,

When I finish this book, I'll try and get the other one "Storming Eagles". Look forward to reading it.

All the best mate, BigVern :)

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Post by General » 20 Jan 2004, 19:20

Big Vern wrote:Hi General,

When I finish this book, I'll try and get the other one "Storming Eagles". Look forward to reading it.

All the best mate, BigVern :)
Storming Eagles is about the Fallschirmjaeger.

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Post by Conacher1941 » 07 Feb 2004, 05:35

What about the SS Fallschirmjäger Battalion 500...?

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Post by Big Vern » 07 Feb 2004, 14:01

Got the book Storming Eagles on e-bay. Have not finished Kommando yet though as I'm very tied up doing an open University course in Environmental studies.

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Post by General » 07 Feb 2004, 15:09

Conacher1941 wrote:What about the SS Fallschirmjäger Battalion 500...?
Some info:
http://www.wssob.com/500abtfsj.html
http://www.eliteforces.freewire.co.uk/W ... AL_500.htm

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Post by Hans_Rudel » 24 Mar 2004, 21:20

People on here are talking about Kampfgruppes during the war.

So, was Army Detachment Kempf a Kampfgruppe? Is 'Kampfgruppe' pretty much the same as saying 'Army Detachment'?

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Post by Conacher1941 » 30 Mar 2004, 16:50

Hans_Rudel wrote:People on here are talking about Kampfgruppes during the war.

So, was Army Detachment Kempf a Kampfgruppe? Is 'Kampfgruppe' pretty much the same as saying 'Army Detachment'?
I don't think so. AD Kempf was quite large, 2 corps in size, essentially an Army, whereas Kampfgruppen were much smaller ad hoc formations, maybe a company in strength (although the acctual size varies wildly), that were usually disbanded back to their parent units after the given task was complete.

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Post by Hans_Rudel » 31 Mar 2004, 04:36

Thanks for that, I guess I didn't grasp the size of Kampfgruppes compared to that of Army Detachtments.

Someone said something about Kampfgruppe Peiper during Wacht am Rhein. If I recalled correctly, that numbered somewhere around 5000 men. Would that be one of the more powerful Kampfgruppes of the war? It was definitely the biggest and most powerful Kampfgruppe in LSSAH at the time, but was it one of the largest in the Heer as well as the Waffen SS for the entire war?

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Post by Christoph Awender » 31 Mar 2004, 09:05

Hans_Rudel wrote:Thanks for that, I guess I didn't grasp the size of Kampfgruppes compared to that of Army Detachtments.

Someone said something about Kampfgruppe Peiper during Wacht am Rhein. If I recalled correctly, that numbered somewhere around 5000 men. Would that be one of the more powerful Kampfgruppes of the war? It was definitely the biggest and most powerful Kampfgruppe in LSSAH at the time, but was it one of the largest in the Heer as well as the Waffen SS for the entire war?
The size Kampfgruppen varied from company to several regiments size as you can see with KG Peiper. But Peipers Kampfgruppe was surely one of the largest.

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Post by yerbamatt » 08 Aug 2004, 22:46

... and what about German Weathertroops in the Far North? The last one, the so-called Wettertrupp Haudegen surrendered to Allies in September 1945.
More about the secret war in the Arctic (links in German though):

http://www.lexikon-der-wehrmacht.de/Zus ... tionen.htm
(look at the attached maps)
and
http://www.geheimprojekte.org/UBoote/wetter.htm

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Post by Christoph Awender » 09 Aug 2004, 07:46

yerbamatt wrote:... and what about German Weathertroops in the Far North? The last one, the so-called Wettertrupp Haudegen surrendered to Allies in September 1945.
More about the secret war in the Arctic (links in German though):

http://www.lexikon-der-wehrmacht.de/Zus ... tionen.htm
(look at the attached maps)
and
http://www.geheimprojekte.org/UBoote/wetter.htm

Regards...
Hello!

Although interesting I would not call them Kampfgruppen as their main purpose was not fighting.

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