Panzer kills for 'Panzer Commander Aces' and 'Panzer Gunner Aces'

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Re: Panzer kills for 'Panzer Commander Aces' and 'Panzer Gunner Aces'

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Post by Edward L. Hsiao » 23 Dec 2020, 00:54

Otto Wiesemann,Knight Cross holder,had more than 50 kills over enemy tanks by the end of 1944. he was a Panther tank commander.

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Re: Panzer kills for 'Panzer Commander Aces' and 'Panzer Gunner Aces'

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Post by Edward L. Hsiao » 23 Dec 2020, 08:48

The question is what was the total score of assault gun kills for Oblt.R. Walter Oberloskamp. He had about four years of WWII mostly on the Eastern front. Among his score were 40 kills against tanks in one day!! He was killed in action in the middle in of 1944. He was a Knight's Cross holder. Surely Oberloskamp had made a lot more kills besides his best day of 40 kills.

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Re: Panzer kills for 'Panzer Commander Aces' and 'Panzer Gunner Aces'

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Post by Hardigan » 23 Dec 2020, 21:06

Time for an update with some changes and adjustments. I removed Barkmann because it seems that Barkmann never gave any number of his Panzer kills, he didn't know his score exactly. And according to Carius he only counted when he was a gunner. Strange enough there's a counting known of 68 as Commander.
Brommann's total is even higher; 72 Panzer in a time period of only 2 months!
I can't find anything on Ernst Beloch but when you know that he was 'already' killed in Dec. 1944 and 'only' was awarded with a German Cross with 103 kills you can be sure that these were Panzer and AFV's together. For now I'll put him in the 'unknown' list. Thanks for the additions!



Panzer Commander Aces


– Wittmann, Michael, SS-Hstuf. (SS-StuGBatt."LAH"/s.SS-PzAbt.501) (StuG.III/Tiger I) (SCHW) – 150+
– Bölter, Johannes, Hptm. (s.PzAbt.502) (Tiger I) (EL,DKiG,PKA"50") – 139
– Körner, Karl, SS-Hscha. (s.SS-PzAbt.503) (Tiger II) (RK,PKA"75") – 102
– Fischer, Gerhard, Major (PzRgt.23) (Panther) (RK,DKiG,PKA"100") – 102
– Knauth, Wilhelm, Hptm. d. R. (s.PzAbt.505) (Tiger II) (RK,DKiG,Ehblsp.,PKA"50") – 101
– Kerscher, Albert, OFw. (s.PzAbt.502) (Tiger II) (EL*,PKA"75") – 100+
– Bix, Hermann, FahnJu.-OFw. (PzRgt.35) (Panther/Jagdpanther) (RK,DKiG,PKA"100") – 100+
– Egger, Paul, SS-Oscha. (s.SS-PzAbt.502) (Tiger II) (RK*,DKiG) (113 as Com./gunner ?) – 100+ ?
– Ketterer, Karl, Lt. (PzRgt.35) (Panther) (RK,DKiG,PKA"25") – 96
– Wendorff, Helmut, SS-Ostuf. (SS-StuGBatt.”LAH”/13.(s.)/SS-PzRgt.1) (StuG.III/Tiger I) (RK) – 95
– Bunzel, Hans, Olt. (PzRgt.16) (Panther) (RK,PKA''50'') – 95
– Höhno, Helmut, Lt. s. (PzAbt.510) (Tiger I) (RK,DKiG,PKA"200"(BW)) – 83
– Bäke Dr., Franz, Oberst (PzRgt.11/s.PzAbt.503/PzBrig.106) (Panther) (SCHW,PKA"100") – 79
– Eckardt, Hermann, OFw. (PzAbt.8) (StuG.III/Pz.IV) (RK,DKiG,PKA"25") – 78
– Warnick, Heinrich, SS-Oscha. (SS-PzRgt.2) (Tiger I/Panther) (EKI) – 77
– Strippel, Hans, Lt. (PzRgt.1) (Pz.IV) (EL,DKiG,PKA"75") – 77
– Litzke, Erich, OFw. (s.PzAbt.509) (Tiger II) (RK,PKA"25") – 76
– Spranz, Bodo, Hptm. (StuGAbt.185/237) (StuG.IV) (EL,DKiG,ASA"25") – 76
– Schmitt, Johann, Lt. (StuGAbt.261) (StuG.) (RK) – 75
– Diers, Georg, SS-Uscha. (s.SS-PzAbt.503) (Tiger II) (EKI) – 74+
– Fischer, Franz, Feldw. (PzRgt.1) (Panther) (RK,PKA"50") – 73
– Fey, Willi, SS-StJu. (s.SS-PzAbt.502) (Tiger I) (RK*,DKiG*,PKA"75") – 73
– Brommann, Karl, SS-Ustuf. (s.SS-PzAbt.503) (Tiger II) (RK) – 72
– Ludwig, Hubert, SS-Oscha. (SS-PzRgt.2) (Panther) (DKiG*) – 70+
– Luithle, Emil, OFw. (PzRgt.''Grossdeutschland'') (Pz.IV) (Ehblsp.) – 70+
– Seibold, Emil, SS-Hscha. (SS-PzRgt.2) (T-34/Pz.IV) (RK*,DKiG) – 69
– Primozic, Hugo, Olt. (StuGAbt.667) (StuG.III) (EL) – 68+
– Carius, Otto, Olt. d. R. (s.PzAbt.502/s.PzJägAbt.512) (Tiger I/Jagdtiger) (EL,PKA"75") – 68
– Brandner, Josef William, Major (StuGAbt.912) (StuG.III) (EL,DKiG,Ehblsp.,ASA"100") – 66
– Larsen, Rudolf, Feldw. (PzRgt."Grossdeutschland") (Panther) (RK,DKiG,PKA"25") – 66
– Sauer, Konrad, Hptm. d. R. (StuGBrig.393) (StuG.) (EL,Ehblsp.) – 65
– Weissheimer, Albert, Lt. (s.PzAbt.501) (Tiger) (EKI) – 65
– Engelmann, Richard, Hptm. (StuGAbt.912) (StuG.III) (RK,DKiG,Ehblsp.) – 62
– Amselgruber, Thomas, SS-Ustuf. d. R. (SS-StuGAbt.1/s.SS-PzAbt.501) (StuG./Tiger II) (DKiG) – 60+
– Hönniger, Theodor, OFw. (PzRgt.25) (Panther) (RK,DKiG,PKA''50'') – 60+
– Weinert, Konrad, Lt. (s.PzAbt.503) (Tiger II) (DKiG) – 59
– Timpe, Heinrich Karl, Lt. (StuGBrig.300) (StuG.) (RK,DKiG) – 59
– Rohr v., Hans-Babo, Olt. (PzRgt.25) (Panther) (EL,PKA"25") – 58
– Stock, Hans-Christian, Major (StuGAbt.270/PzJagAbt.152) (StuG.) (EL) – 58
– Giese, Hans, Lt. (PzAbt.5) (Panther) (RK,DKiG) – 58
– Junge, Walter, Gefr. (s.PzAbt.503) (Tiger II) – 57+
– Bachor, Willy, OWm. (PzRgt.24) (RK,DKiG,PKA''50) – 57
– Rubbel, Alfred, Lt. d. R. (s.PzAbt.503) (Tiger II) (EKI,PKA"50") – 57
– Witte, Albert, Lt. (StuGBrig.394) (StuG.) (RK) – 56
– Rohrbacher, Josef, OWm. (StuGBrig.245) (StuG.) (RK) – 56
– Göring, Kurt, OFw. (s.PzAbt.502) (Tiger II) (DKiG,PKA"100") – 56
– Elsner, Herbert, OFw. (PzRgt.23) (Panther) (RK*,DKiG,PKA"75") – 56
– Ernst, Albert, Hptm. (s.PzJägAbt.519) (Nashorn) (RK,Ehblsp.) – 55
– Kochanowski, Johannes, Lt. (StuGAbt.201) (StuG.III) (RK,ASA"50") – 55
– Kalss, Alois, SS-Hstuf. d. R. (s.SS-PzAbt.502) (Tiger II) (RK,DKiG,PKA”75”) – 54
– Engelmann, Richard, Hptm. (StuGBrig.912) (StuG.) (RK,DKiG) – 54
– Ott, Hermann, Uffz. d. R. (PzRgt.35) – 53
– Heubeck, Konrad, SS-Ustuf. d. R. (SS-PzRgt.1) (Panther) (RK,DKiG) – 52
– Kling, Heinrich, SS-Stubaf. (s.SS-PzAbt.101) (Tiger I) (RK,DKiG) – 51+
– Knecht, Walter, SS-Oscha. (s.SS-PzAbt.102) (Tiger I) – 51+
– Glagow, Ernst, SS-Uscha. (s.SS-PzAbt.102) (Tiger I) – 51+
– Brehme, Gerhard, OFw. (PzRgt.15) (Panther) (RK,DKiG) – 51
– Arnold, Friedrich, Hptm. (StuGAbt.201/237) (StuG.III) (RK,DKiG,ASA"50") – 51
– Jakwert, Josef, Olt. (PzJägAbt.1562) (EL) – 51
– Lobmeyer, Jakob, SS-Stubaf. (SS-StuGAbt.”LAH”/SS-JagdPzAbt.561) (StuG.III/Hetzer) (EL*,RK,DKiG*,Ehblsp.,PKA"50"+ PKA"200"(BW) ) – 50+
– Rondorf, Heinrich, Olt. (s.PzAbt.503) (Tiger I) (DKiG) – 50+
– Schäfer, Oskar, SS-Ustuf. (s.SS-PzAbt.503) (Tiger II) (RK) – 50+
– Kühn, Hans-Jochen, Hptm. d. R. (PzRgt.36) (RK,DKiG) – 50+
– Müller, Johann, OFw. (s.PzAbt.502) (Tiger II) (RK) – 50+
– Adamowitsch, Felix, Hptm. (StuGAbt.904) (StuG.) (RK,DKiG) – 50+
– Wiesemann, Otto, Feldw. (PzRgt.1) (Panther) (RK) – 50+
– Fiebig, Walter, Wm. (StuGAbt.301) (StuG.) (DKiG) – 50+
– Mausberg, Heinrich, OFw. (s.PzAbt.505) (Tiger II) (DKiG,PKA"25") – 50+
– Carpaneto, Alfredo, Uffz. (s.PzAbt.502) (Tiger II) (RK,PKA"25") – 50
– Dallmeier, Josef, Olt. (PzJägKp.1183) (Hetzer) (RK) – 50
– Senghas, Paul, SS-Hstuf. (SS-PzRgt.5) (Pz.IV) (RK,DKiG,PKA"25") – 49
– Roeder, Paul, (Pz"Lehr"Div.) – 49
– Spielmann, Johann, Major (StuGAbt.197/StuGBrig.202) (StuG.III/Elefant) (EL) – 48
– Zillmann, Erich, StWm. (StuGBrig.244) (StuG.) (RK,DKiG,ASA"50") – 48
– Weissflog, Hans-Joachim, Olt. (PzRgt.16/116.PzDiv.) (Panther) (RK,PKA"25") – 47+
– Lutz, Waldemar, Hptm. (StuGAbt.245) (StuG.) (RK) – 47
– Höper, Ahrend, Lt. d. R. (StuGBrig.202) (StuG.III) (RK,ASA"50") – 47
– Ott, Heinz, OWm. (PzRgt.24) (RK,Ehblsp.,PKA"50") – 47
– Brandt, Jürgen, SS-Oscha. (s.SS-PzAbt.501) (Tiger II) (DKiG,PKA"25") – 47
– Ohler, Kurt, Uffz. (StuGAbt.270/PzJägAbt.152) (StuG.III) – 47
– Scholz, Paul, (s.PzAbt.505) (Tiger I) – 46
– Casselheim, Frank, ("Grossdeutschland") – 46
– Müller, Eduard, Olt. (StuGAbt.244) (StuG.) (RK,DKiG) – 46
– Deutsch, Heinz, Olt. d. R. (FschStuGBrig.12) (StuG.III) (RK) – 46
– Przedwojewski, Felix, SS-Uscha. (SS-StuGAbt.3) (StuG.III) (RK) – 45+
– Paul, Roland, SS-Ostuf. (SS-PzJägAbt.2) (StuG.III/JagdPz.IV) (DKiG,PKA"50") – 45+
– Raum, Otto, Olt. d. R. (PzRgt.3) (Pz.IV) (Ehblsp.) – 45
– Bose, Georg, Lt. (StuGAbt.300/177/PzJägAbt.69) (StuG.III) (RK,PKA"50",ASA"25") – 44
– Banach, Friedrich, OFw. (PzRgt.36) (Panther) (RK,DKiG) – 43
– Pfreundtner, Karl, OFw. (StuGAbt.244) (StuG.III) (RK) – 43
– Günther, Wilhelm, OFw. (PzRgt.2) (Pz.IV) (RK) – 42+
– Amling, Fritz, OWm. (StuGAbt.202) (StuG.III) (RK) – 42+
– Knispel, Kurt, Feldw. (s.PzAbt.503) (Tiger II) (DKiG,PKA"25") – 42
– Aman, Herbert, Hptm. (StuGAbt.905) (StuG.) (RK) – 42
– Scherf, Fritz, OFw. (PzAbt.103) (Panther) (RK) – 42
– Scholl, Joachim, SS-Hstuf. (s.SS-PzAbt.102) (Tiger I) (DKiG*) – 42
– Riedel, Franz, SS-Ostuf. (SS-PzRgt.10) (StuG.III) (RK,DKiG,PKA"25") – 40+
– Schäfer, Georg, OFw. (PzRgt.1) (Pz.IV) (RK) – 40+
– Wegener, Paul, OWm. (StuGAbt.237) (StuG.) (RK,DKiG) – 40+
– Scharf, Heinz, FahnJu.-OWm. (StuGBrig.202) (StuG.) (RK,DKiG) – 40+
– Oberloskamp, Walter, Olt. d. R. (StuGAbt.667) (StuG.III) (RK) – 40+
– Tornau, Gottfried, Major (StuGBrig."FührBeglBrig.") (StuG.) (RK,DKiG,ASA"25") – 40
– Schwalb, Helmuth, Major (StuGBrig.190) (StuG.III) (RK,DKiG,Ehblsp.) – 40
– Weerts, Johann"Hans", SS-Ostuf. (SS-PzRgt.5) (Pz.IV) (DKiG) – 39
– Tadje, Friedrich, Hptm. (StuGAbt.190) (StuG.III) (RK,DKiG) – 39
– Henke, Fritz, SS-Ustuf. (SS-StuGAbt.1) (StuG.III) (RK,PKA"25") – 38
– Hendricks, Heinrich, Feldw. (PzRgt.33/s.PzAbt.506) (Tiger I) (RK,PKA"25") – 38
– Laubmeier, Ludwig, Hptm. d.R. (StuGBrig.191) (StuG.III) (RK,Ehblsp.) – 38
– Baurmann, Heinz, Hptm. (StuGAbt.667)/StuGBrig.322/300) (StuG.III) (RK,DKiG) – 38
– Angel, Otto, Feldw. (PzJägAbt.6) (Hetzer) (RK,ASA”25”) – 38
– Roy, Rudolf, SS-Ustuf. d. R. (SS-PzJägAbt.12) (JagdPz.IV) (RK) – 37
– Schram, Richard, Lt. (StuGAbt.202) (StuG.III) (RK) – 37
– Kreuzberg, Anton, Uffz. (s.PzJägAbt.525) (Nashorn) (RK) – 36+
– Hurdelbrink, Georg, SS-Ostuf. d. R. (SS-PzJägAbt.12) (JagdPz.IV) (RK) – 36+
– Eichert, Robert, Lt. (PzRgt.36) (RK,DKiG,Ehblsp.) – 36
– Herzig, Johann, Olt. (s.PzAbt.508) (Tiger I) – 36
– Dieter, Gert, (Pz"Lehr"Div.) – 36
– Malachowski v., Wilhelm, Major i.G. (StuGAbt.228) (StuG.) (EL) – 35+
– Diddens, Diddo, Hptm. d. R. (StuGBrig."Grossdeutschland") (StuG.) (OL) – 35
– Staudegger, Franz, SS-StJu. (s.SS-PzAbt.101) (Tiger I) (RK) – 35
– Brandt, Gerhard Alfred, Olt. (StuGBrig.202) (StuG.) (RK,ASA"25") – 35
– Kramer, Richard Otto, Olt. (StuGBrig.252) (StuG.) (RK) – 35
– Dauser, Hans, SS-Ostuf. d. R. (SS-PzRgt.1) (Panther) (RK) – 34+
– Olin, Ulf-Ola, SS-Ostuf. (SS-PzRgt.5) (Panther) (DKiG) – 34
– Schumacher, Kurt, SS-Ostuf. (SS-PzRgt.5) (Pz.IV) (RK,DKiG,PKA"50") – 32+
– Niemeck, Gerhard, FahnJu.-OFw. (PzRgt.31) (Pz.III) (RK) – 32
– Serck, Julius, OWm. d. R. (StuGBrig.300) (StuG.) (RK,ASA"50") – 32
– Biermeier, Fritz, SS-Stubaf. (SS-PzRgt.3) (Pz.IV) (EL,PKA"25") – 31+
– Rettlinger, Karl, SS-Stubaf. (SS-StuGAbt.1/SS-PzJägAbt.1) (StuG) (RK,DKiG) – 30+
– Brede, Fritz, SS-Oscha. (s.SS-PzAbt.503) (Tiger II) – 30+
– Kirchner, Kurt, Wm. (StuGBatt.667) (StuG.III) (RK) – 30+
– Stier, Gottwald, Wm. (StuGBatt.667) (StuG.III) (RK) – 30+
– Trägner, Josef, OWm. (StuGBatt.667) (StuG.III) (RK) – 30+
– Peter, Horst, Lt. d. R. (PzJägAbt.1544) (DKiG) – 30+
– Egghardt, Alfred, Lt. (StuGBrig.912) (StuG) (RK,DKiG,Ehblsp.,ASA''75'') – 30
– Naumann, Horst, Lt. (StuGAbt.184) (StuG.III) (RK,ASA"50") – 30
– Grossrock, Alfred, SS-Ostuf. (SS-PzRgt.5) (Panther) (RK,DKiG) – 29
– Scherf, Walter, Hptm. (s.PzAbt.503) (Tiger I) (RK,DKiG,PKA"50") – 29
– Bausch Dr. Jur., Albert, Major d. R. (StuGAbt.286) (StuG.) (RK,DKiG) – 29
– Buhr, Martin, Obstlt. (StuGAbt.202) (StuG.) (RK) – 29
– Schliesmann, Kurt, Hptm. (StuGBrig.286) (StuG.) (RK,ASA"25") – 29
– Klaucke, Werner, Lt. (PzJägAbt.200) (RK) – 29
– Esslinger, Willi, SS-Hscha. (SS-PzJägAbt.5) (JagdPz.) (RK) – 28+
– Kauerauf, Fritz, SS-Ustuf. (s.SS-PzAbt.503) (Tiger II) – 28
– Bostell v., Wolfgang, Olt. (PzJägKp.1023/205) (StuG.III) (EL,PKA"25") – 28
– Pieper, Heinz, Uffz. (PzJägAbt.19) (RK,Ehblsp.) – 28
– Alex, Ernst, Olt. (StuGAbt.243) (StuG.III) (RK) – 27+
– Banze, Karl Heinrich, OWm. (StuGAbt.244) (StuG.III) (RK) – 27
– Ertel, Reinhold, Hptm. (StuGAbt.276) (StuG.) (RK) – 27
– Neigl, Ludwig, Feldw. (s.PzJägAbt.519) (Nashorn) (RK) – 26+
– Wohlrab, Rudolf, SS-Uscha. (SS-PzJägAbt.3) (DKiG) – 26
– Blaich, Albert, Olt. ( PzRgt.6) (Panther) (RK,DKiG,PKA''25'') – 26
– Hartelt, Wolfgang, OFähnr. (FschPzRgt."HG") (Panther) (RK) – 25+
– Harrer, SS-Hscha. (s.SS-PzAbt.503) (Tiger II) – 25+
– Rosen v., Richard Freiherr, Olt. (s.PzAbt.503) (Tiger II) (DKiG,PKA"25") – 25+
– Mennel, Hans, SS-Ustuf. (SS-PzRgt.1) (Pz.IV) (Ehblsp.) – 25+
– Stegmaier, Alfons, (SS-PzJägAbt.2) (StuG.III) (DKiG) – 25+
– Truxa, Rolf, Hptm. (StuGBrig.190) (StuG.III) (RK,DKiG,Ehblsp.) – 25+
– Schwarzenbacher, Josef, Wm. (StuGBrig.912) (StuG.) (RK) – 25+
– Dath, Friedrich, OWm. (StuGBrig.286) (StuG.) (RK) – 25
– Dehmel, Ernst, SS-Stubaf. (SS-StuGAbt.3) (StuG.III) (RK) – 25
– Malkomes, Hans, SS-Hstuf. d.R. (SS-PzRgt.1) (Panther) (RK,DKiG) – 24+
– Kändler, Willi, SS-Ustuf. (SS-PzRgt.12) (Pz.IV) – 24+
– Sametreiter, Kurt, SS-Ustuf. (SS-PzJägAbt.1) (StuG.III) (RK) – 24+
– Müller, SS-Ostuf. (s.SS-PzAbt.503) (Tiger II) – 23+
– Becker, Heinrich, Lt. (PzRgt.31) (Pz.III) (RK) – 23+
– Roehder, Wolfgang, SS-Stubaf. (SS-StuGAbt.2) (StuG.III) (RK,DKiG) – 23+
– Metzger, Eugen, Lt. (StuGAbt.203) (StuG.) (RK) – 23
– Rade, Hans-Dietrich, Hptm. (StuGAbt.244) (StuG.III) (DKiG) – 23
– Angelmaier, Heinz, Hptm. d. R. (StuGBrig.279) (RK,DKiG,Ehblsp.) – 23
– Chrzonsz, Günter, Lt. (StuGAbt.277) (StuG.III) (RK) – 23
– Rahlenbeck, Robert, Uffz. (JägRgt.38) (T-34) (RK) – 23
– Wagner, Klaus Herbert, Hptm. (StuGAbt.667) (StuG.III) (RK,DKiG) – 22
– Zitzen, Kurt Heinrich, Hptm. (StuGAbt.177) (StuG.III) (RK) – 22
– Soretz, Hans, SS-Ostuf. (s.SS-PzAbt.502) (Tiger II) (DKiG) – 22
– Teriete, Heinrich, Lt. (s.PzJägAbt.653) (RK,PKA"50") – 22
– Bohlken, Erwin, OFw. (PzRgt.1) (Panther) (RK,DKiG,PKA''50'') – 22
– Sowada, Bernhard, Olt. d. R. (StuGAbt.237) (RK) – 21+
– Grünert, Anton, Hptm. d. R. (StuGAbt.201) (StuG.III) (RK,DKiG) – 21+
– Köhler, Heinrich, Lt. d. R. (StuGAbt.322/210) (RK,ASA"25") – 21
– Kretschmer, Franz, Olt. d. R. (s.PzJägAbt.656) (RK) – 21
– Tassler, Alois, SS-Oscha. (s.Kp./SS-PzRgt.3) (Tiger I) – 20+
– Holzer, Friedrich, SS-Ostubaf. (SS-PzRgt.2) (Panther) (RK,DKiG) – 19+
– Dahlke, Erwin, SS-Ustuf. (SS-PzRgt.9) – 19+
– Woll, Balthasar, SS-Oscha. (s.SS-PzAbt.501) (Tiger II) (RK) – 19+
– Kausch, Paul-Albert, SS-Ostubaf. (SS-PzRgt.11) (Panther) (EL*) – 19
– Haen, Rudolf, Obstlt. i.G. (PzAbt.103) (EL,PKA"100",DKiG,Ehblsp.) – 19
– Bergmann, Heinz, (PzRgt.26) (Panther) (RK) – 19
– Stehle, Werner, (FschStuGBrig.12) (StuG) (RK) – 19
– Straub, Johann, Lt. (StuGAbt.1007/Pz-JägAbt.7) (StuG.III) (RK,DKiG) – 18+
– Rempel, Feldw. (13.(s.)Kp./PzRgt."Grossdeutschland") (Tiger I) – 18+
– Loritz, Hans, SS-Ostuf. (s.SS-PzAbt.102) (Tiger I) – 18+
– Risch, Hans-Georg, Olt. (PzRgt.''Grossdeutschland'') (Ehblsp.) – 18
– Fein, SS-Uscha. (s.Kp./SS-PzRgt.3) (Tiger I) – 18
– Bauer, Hans, Olt. (StuGAbt.232) (StuG.III) – 17+
– Ludwig, Franz, Olt. (StuGAbt.1346) (StuG.) (RK) – 17+
– Nippes, Kurt, Olt. d. R. (StuGAbt.276) (StuG.) (RK) – 17
– Rampel, Josef, OFw. (PzRgt.11) (RK) – 17
– Rappholz, Walter, Ow. (PzJägAbt.616) (RK,DKiG) – 16
– Hartmann, Leo, Lt. d. R. (StuGBrig.311/PzCie”Breslau”) (StuG.IV) (RK) – 16
– Feldheim, Hermann, Lt. d. R. (s.PzJägAbt.654) (DKiG) – 16
– Steinmann, Lt. (StuGAbt.226) (StuG.) – 16
– Kretszchmar, Willi, SS-Oscha. (SS-PzRgt.12) (Pz.IV) – 15+
– Gassner, SS-Oscha. (SS-PzRgt.9) – 15+
– Engel, Heinrich, Wm. (StuGAbt.259) (RK) – 15+
– Lucke v. Claus, Lt. (PzRgt.18) (Pz.III/IV) – 15+
– Bauer, Ludwig, Lt. (PzRgt.33) (Panther) (RK*,PKA"25") – 15
– Eichler, Wolfgang, Lt. d. R. (PzRgt.29) (RK) – 15
– Privatzki, Artur, SS-Uscha. (s.Kp./SS-PzRgt.3) (Tiger I) – 14+
– Köstler, Feldw. (s.SS-PzAbt.511) (Tiger II) – 14+
– Ribbentrop v., Rudolf, SS-Hstuf. (SS-PzRgt.12) (Pz.IV) (RK,DKiG,PKA"25") – 14
– Beutler, Walter, OWm. (StuGAbt.245) (StuG.) (RK) – 14
– Magold, Hans, Hptm. (StuGAbt.''Grossdeutschland'') (StuG.III) (RK,DKiG) – 14
– Strauss, P.F., Lt. (s.PzAbt.502) (Tiger I) – 13+
– Scherer, Fritz, Hptm. (StuGAbt.236) (StuG.) (RK,DKiG) – 13
– Fischer, Robert, Feldw. (JagdPzKie 1257) (Hetzer) (RK) – 13
– Wegner, Wilhelm, Lt. (StuGBrig."Grossdeutschland") (StuG.) (RK,DKiG,ASA"25") – 12+
– Bruins, Derk-Elsko, SS-Oscha. (SS-PzJägAbt.54) (StuG.III) (RK) – 12+
– Berg, Karl-Erich, Hptm. (StuGAbt.191) (StuG.III) (RK,Ehblsp.) – 12+
– Bertram, Ludwig, Hptm. (StuGBrig.237) (RK) – 12+
– Paletta, Harry, SS-Ostuf. (SS-StuGAbt./SS-GebPzJägAbt.7) (StuG.III) (RK) – 12
– Feldkamp, Heinrich, OWm. (StuGBrig.341) (RK) – 12
– Moj, (StuGAbt.190) (StuG.III) – 12
– Maibohm, Uffz. (StuGAbt.226) (StuG.) – 12
– Eckert, Alois, Feldw. (PzRgt.33) (RK) – 11+
– Bahr v., Lt. (PzRgt.27) (Pz.IV) – 11+
– Freyer, Siegfried, (PzRgt.24) (RK) – 11
– Tessenow, Rudolf, Wm. (PzRgt.24) (RK*) – 11
– Grünewald, Georg, (FschStuGBrig.12) (StuG) (RK) – 11
– Sachs, Feldw. (s.PzAbt.503) (Tiger II) – 11
– Rossmann, Emil, Olt. d. R. (PzRgt.26/PzRgt."Kurmark") (Panther) (RK,PKA"100") – 10+
– Weidenbrück, Wilhelm, Olt. (PzRgt.3) (EL,DKiG) – 10+
– Beyer, Olt. (13.(s.)/PzRgt."Grossdeutschland") (Tiger I) – 10+
– Wierschin, StbsFw. (PzRgt.18) (Pz.III/IV) – 10+
– Regeniter Dr. med., Alfred, Lt. (StuGBrig.276) (RK) – 10
– Neumeyer, Werner, Lt. (PzRgt.26) (RK) – 10
– Kettmann, Rudolf, Uffz. (PzJägKie 1122) (StuG.III) (RK) – 10
– Langanke, Fritz, SS-Ostuf. (SS-PzRgt.2) (Panther) (RK) – 9+
– Heimann, Heinrich, SS-Stubaf. (SS-StuGAbt.1) (StuG.) (RK,DKiG) – 9+
– Wagner, Hans Joachim, Hptm. (StuGBrig.286) (RK) – 9+
– Rambow, Richard, Uffz. (PzJägAbt.561) (Marder III) (RK,Ehblsp.) – 9
– Fromme, Rolf, Major (s.PzAbt.503) (Tiger I) (RK,Ehblsp.) – 9
– Baumeister, Hans, SS-Oscha. (SS-PzRgt.3) (Pz.IV) – 9
– Hermann, Heinrich, (SS-StuGAbt.1) (StuG.) – 9
– Brockschmidt, Olt. (StuGAbt.232) (StuG.) – 9
– Winkelmann, Heinrich, Lt. (StuGBrig.184) (StuG.III) – 9
– Halbig, Alfons, Wm. (1./StuGAbt.244) (StuG.) (DKiG) – 8+
– Weller, Heinz, Feldw. (s.PzAbt.510) (Tiger II) (PKA"50") – 8+
– Bor, Uffz. (StuGAbt.''Grossdeutschland'') (StuG.) – 8
– Mühleck, Karl, SS-Ostuf. (SS-PzRgt.2) (Panther) (RK,Ehblsp.) – 7+
– Gilow, Peter, Olt. (PzRgt.1) (RK,DKiG,PKA"25") – 7+
– Bender, SS-Uscha. (s.SS-PzAbt.503) (Tiger II) – 7+
– Rudolf, Richard, SS-Oscha. (SS-PzRgt.12) (Pz.IV) (RK) – 6+
– Korf, Heinrich, Lt. (StuGAbt.177) (StuG.III) (DKiG) – 6+
– Warmbrunn, Karl-Heinz, SS-Uscha. (s.SS-PzAbt.501) (Tiger II) (EKI,PKA"25") – 6
– Kohler, SS-Ustuf. (s.Kp./SS-PzRgt.3) (Tiger I) – 6
– Lachner, Ludwig, SS-Rttf. (s.Kp./SS-PzRgt.3) (Tiger I) – 6
– Stolze, SS-Oscha. (s.SS-PzAbt.503) (Tiger II) – 5+
– Scholte, SS-Hscha. (s.SS-PzAbt.503) (Tiger II) – 5+
– Junge, SS-Oscha. (SS-PzRgt.12) (Pz.IV) – 5+
– Kniep, Walter, SS-Stubaf. (SS-StuGAbt.2/SS-PzAbt.17) (StuG.IV) (RK,DKiG) – 5+
– Günther, Alfred, SS-Ustuf. (SS-StuGAbt.1/s.SS-PzAbt.101) (StuG.III/Tiger I) (RK) – 5+
– Moll, Lt. (PzRgt.4) (Pz.III) – 5+
– Hauswald, Karl, Feldw. (PzRgt.33) (Pz.IV) (Ehblsp.) – 5+
– Bartels, Günther, Lt. (PzJägAbt.38) (Marder III) – 5+
– Kesten, Dieter, SS-Stubaf. (SS-PzRgt.2) (Pz.IV) (RK) – 4+
– Streng, Ernst, SS-Oscha. (s.SS-PzAbt.502) (Tiger II) – 4+
– Muller, Willi, SS-Oscha. (s.Kp./SS-PzRgt.3) (Tiger I) – 4+
– Bolte, Hermann, SS-Ostuf. (SS-StuGAbt.2/SS-PzRgt.2) (StuG.III) (DKiG) – 3+
– Hurler, Anton, OGefr. (PzRgt.23) (EKI,PKA"25") – 3
– Bourzel, Lt. (1.PzDiv.) – 3


*unconfirmed Award





unknown:

- Friesen, Arnold, SS-FahnJu. (SS-PzRgt.2) (Panther) (EKI,PKA"75") - 111 (as Com./gunner)
- Carius, Otto, Olt. d. R. (s.PzAbt.502/s.PzJägAbt.512) (Tiger I/Jagdtiger) (EL,PKA"75") – 100+ (as Com./gunner)
- Barkmann, Ernst, SS-Oscha. (SS-PzRgt.2) (Panther) (RK,PKA"25") (as Com./gunner ?) – 82+ ?
- Harth, Helmut, OFw. d. R. (PzRgt.21) (RK,DKiG) – 60 (as Com./gunner)
- Kroenke, Horst, (s.PzAbt.503/505) (Tiger II) – 50? (as Com./gunner)
- Dressel, Albert, OFw. (PzAbt.160) (RK) – 16 (on 1 day)
- Jähde,Willy, Major (s.PzAbt.502) (RK) - 9 (in one action)
- Schroif, Martin, SS-Ustuf. (s.SS-PzAbt.502) (Tiger II) - 161 (Pz and AFV's)
- Oberhuber, SS-Oscha. (s.SS-PzAbt.102) (Tiger I) - 127 (Pz and AFV's)
- Möbius, Rudolf, SS-Hstuf. (s.SS-PzAbt.501) (Tiger II) (DKiG) - 125 (Pz and AFV's)
- Sandrock, Hans, Major (FschPzRgt."HG"/SS-PzRgt.12) (StuG.) (RK,DKiG,PKA"50") - 123 (Pz and AFV's)
- Beloch, Ernst, Feldw. (s.PzAbt.509) (Tiger) (DKiG) – 103 (Pz and AFV’s ?)
- Gärtner, Heinz, Feldw. (s.PzAbt.503) (Tiger II) (DKiG) - 103 (Pz and AFV's as Com./gunner)
- Dieter, SS-Ustuf. (s.SS-PzAbt.503) (Tiger II) - 50+ (Pz and AFV's)
- Geiner, Oskar, SS-Uscha. (s.SS-PzAbt.503) (Tiger II) - 50+ (Pz and AFV’s)

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Post by Edward L. Hsiao » 29 Dec 2020, 05:52

What was Karl Kloskowski of the "Das Reich" Panzer Division total kills while commanding a panzer. He was a holder of the Knight's Cross with Oak Leaves.

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Post by Edward L. Hsiao » 31 Dec 2020, 18:38

Unlike the Luftwaffe fighter total kills in the air,a lot of Panzer commander aces kills were incomplete or not final scores. We don't even know the final complete score of Michael Wittmann for sure. Hans Strippel's kills was 77 up to the middle of 1944. Strippel fought in the war front until the very end of WWII for Germany. His final complete score is not known. Maybe his final score was over 100. Did Hugo Primozic fought in 1944 and 1945 and adding more kills to his 68 kills which was reached by the middle of 1943?

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Post by Michael Kenny » 31 Dec 2020, 21:48

Edward L. Hsiao wrote:
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We don't even know the final complete score of Michael Wittmann for sure.
The poster-boy chosen to promote the Waffen SS who's every move was recorded to validate the Uber-SS myth?
He came from nowhere in the summer of 1943 and was dead in the summer of 1944. He kill-claims are enumerated in detail in Agte and I very much doubt if any 'doubtful' claims were omitted.
For certain his Normandy kill-total is at least twice reality. It is true his Stug career is largely undocumented but if he was that prolific it would not have been overlooked would it?

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Post by Edward L. Hsiao » 04 Jan 2021, 05:55

Lt. Johannes Kochanowski had 55 kills over Soviet tanks by the late months of 1942. The question is did he continue to fight and destroy Soviet tanks on the Eastern Front in 1943 till May of 1945? If he had,his kill score could have doubled and made over the 100 tank kill mark.

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Post by pintere » 30 Mar 2021, 04:56

I'm attaching an article from the Sorauer Tageblatt (dated 13.05.1944) that describes why Oberfeldwebel Hans Fendesack received the Ehrenblattspange. I'll write up an English translation if requested. It appears to describe two separate actions that saw Fendesack claim 18+ and 24 tanks, respectively. I find it hard to believe that he would not instead receive the Knight's Cross after claiming 40+ tanks destroyed, so maybe I'm not understanding the German 100%? If there's any German speakers that might be able to provide clarification then any comments would be most welcome.
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Post by Edward L. Hsiao » 28 Apr 2021, 07:29

Hans Fendesack certainly deserved to have the Knight's Cross.

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Post by Dwight Pruitt » 27 Jan 2022, 17:17

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The name Arno Giesen is a nom de guerre. The man's real name was Arnold Friesen. Information is from another topic of this forum.

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Stolen valor article about the Arno Giesen fraud: http://fathercodersoldierspy.com/?page_id=9

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Post by alcius » 09 Jun 2022, 16:42

Hans Fendesack destroyed 103 enemy tanks

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Post by Hardigan » 11 Jun 2022, 02:27

Nice to know about Giesen. About the article from the Sorauer Tageblatt, it's not clear if Fendesack alone destroyed 18 tanks, I don't think so, they are mentioning him as platooncommander with his last tanks. And also by that late time in the war it was much more difficult to earn a Knights Cross. alcius, do you have a source for 103 enemy tanks for Fendesack?

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Post by alcius » 11 Jun 2022, 11:00

In the following post;
Riesaer Tageblatt und Anzeiger : 22.07.1944 - pag.1
https://sachsen.digital/werkansicht/219 ... f3df645bd8

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Post by Hardigan » 14 Jun 2022, 01:05

Thanks for the article. It looks indeed like the case of Knispel, he should have received the Knights Cross if!! he was that whole period a panzer commander, what I don't know. You never know what was going on. These are exceptional cases but I'll put him in the list for now.

They are mentioning also a Feldwebel Schimock with over 70 panzerkills, does anyone know his first name and which awards he had?

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