25. Panzer-Grenadier-Division - Panzer strength on 1 Jan 1945

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25. Panzer-Grenadier-Division - Panzer strength on 1 Jan 1945

Post by Kelvin » 28 Jan 2019 04:50

Hi, everyone, I am looking for panzer or other AFV strength of 25. Panzer-Grenadier-Division on 01st Jan 1945 or 08th Jan 1945, anyone have data on any date ? Thank

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Re: 25. Panzer-Grenadier-Division - Panzer strength on 1 Jan 1945

Post by Christian Ankerstjerne » 28 Jan 2019 18:30

Tanks (15 January 1945)
Pz IV L/48
  • Maintenance: 1
Panther
  • Combat ready: 3
  • Maintenance: 24
  • Transit: 10
Flakpanzer IV
  • Combat ready: 1
  • Maintenance: 2
Tank destroyers (30 December 1944)
Jagdpanzer IV
  • Combat ready: 3
  • Maintenance: 2
8,8 cm Pak 43 VI(P) (most likely actually Jagdpanthers, but could also be Nashorns)
  • Combat ready: 4
Assault guns (15 January 1945)
Sturmgeschütz III L/48
  • Combat ready: 2
  • Maintenance: 11
  • Transit: 20
Armored vehicles (30 December 1944)
le Pz Sp Wg (MG)
  • Combat ready: 1
le Pz Sp Wg (2 cm)
  • Combat ready: 2
mittlerer Krankenpanzerwagen (Sd Kfz 251/8)
  • Combat ready: 4
mittlerer Pionierpanzerwagen (Sd Kfz 251/7)
  • Combat ready: 12
  • Maintenance: 1
mittlerer Schützenpanzerwagen (7,5 cm K) (Sd Kfz 251/9)
  • Combat ready: 4
  • Maintenance: 4
mittlerer Flammpanzerwagen (Sd Kfz 251/16)
  • Combat ready: 6
mittlerer Schützenpanzerwagen (2 cm) (Sd Kfz 251/17)
  • Combat ready: 2
mittlerer Schützenpanzerwagen (Drilling) (Sd Kfz 251/21)
  • Combat ready: 46
  • Maintenance: 4
mittlerer Schützenpanzerwagen (other than /6, /7, /8, /9, /10, /16, /17, /18, and /21)
  • Combat ready: 57
  • Maintenance: 9

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Re: 25. Panzer-Grenadier-Division - Panzer strength on 1 Jan 1945

Post by offizier1916 » 28 Jan 2019 19:08

very interesting.
Do you have by chance the panzer strength of the 10th Panzergrenadier Division around 1945?

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Re: 25. Panzer-Grenadier-Division - Panzer strength on 1 Jan 1945

Post by Kelvin » 29 Jan 2019 02:46

Christian Ankerstjerne wrote:
28 Jan 2019 18:30
Tanks (15 January 1945)
Pz IV L/48
  • Maintenance: 1
Panther
  • Combat ready: 3
  • Maintenance: 24
  • Transit: 10
Flakpanzer IV
  • Combat ready: 1
  • Maintenance: 2
Tank destroyers (30 December 1944)
Jagdpanzer IV
  • Combat ready: 3
  • Maintenance: 2
8,8 cm Pak 43 VI(P) (most likely actually Jagdpanthers, but could also be Nashorns)
  • Combat ready: 4
Assault guns (15 January 1945)
Sturmgeschütz III L/48
  • Combat ready: 2
  • Maintenance: 11
  • Transit: 20
Armored vehicles (30 December 1944)
le Pz Sp Wg (MG)
  • Combat ready: 1
le Pz Sp Wg (2 cm)
  • Combat ready: 2
mittlerer Krankenpanzerwagen (Sd Kfz 251/8)
  • Combat ready: 4
mittlerer Pionierpanzerwagen (Sd Kfz 251/7)
  • Combat ready: 12
  • Maintenance: 1
mittlerer Schützenpanzerwagen (7,5 cm K) (Sd Kfz 251/9)
  • Combat ready: 4
  • Maintenance: 4
mittlerer Flammpanzerwagen (Sd Kfz 251/16)
  • Combat ready: 6
mittlerer Schützenpanzerwagen (2 cm) (Sd Kfz 251/17)
  • Combat ready: 2
mittlerer Schützenpanzerwagen (Drilling) (Sd Kfz 251/21)
  • Combat ready: 46
  • Maintenance: 4
mittlerer Schützenpanzerwagen (other than /6, /7, /8, /9, /10, /16, /17, /18, and /21)
  • Combat ready: 57
  • Maintenance: 9

Hi, Christian, thank for your data, however, I have this file on 15th Jan 1945. I suppose Pz status is after intense fighting, so I want to find some data prior to Nordwind offensive. Thank

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Re: 25. Panzer-Grenadier-Division - Panzer strength on 1 Jan 1945

Post by Johnx » 31 Jan 2019 13:41

Hi,ALL
I have 25. Pz.Gren.Div.'s Kriegsgliederung in 45.1.1
They have 14 Pz V or StuG in Pz.Abt. 5(I am not sure which Kp. equipment StuG or Pz V. Because it all 'StuG 'symbol!);
Pz.Jg.Abt. 25 have 17 StuG.

25.Pz.Gren.Div. have a good Pz.Lage in 44.12.8:
Pz.Abt. 5 have 10 Pz V ,1 Pz.Bef. V & 6 StuG IV;
Pz.Jg.Abt. 25 have 17 StuG III

:milwink:

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Re: 25. Panzer-Grenadier-Division - Panzer strength on 1 Jan 1945

Post by Kelvin » 01 Feb 2019 05:23

Him Johnx, thank for your data.

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Re: 25. Panzer-Grenadier-Division - Panzer strength on 1 Jan 1945

Post by Tom Peters » 17 Apr 2019 01:48

See T78 R529 f942 for Jan 1, 1945.

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Re: 25. Panzer-Grenadier-Division - Panzer strength on 1 Jan 1945

Post by Kelvin » 07 May 2019 04:56

Hi, Tom, is it OOB chart or status report ?

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Re: 25. Panzer-Grenadier-Division - Panzer strength on 1 Jan 1945

Post by Tom Peters » 07 May 2019 13:02

Thats a specific reference to a frame of microfilm from a NARA roll. PM me and I can send it to you.

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Re: 25. Panzer-Grenadier-Division - Panzer strength on 1 Jan 1945

Post by danielponiallain » 01 Mar 2020 18:40

offizier1916 wrote:
28 Jan 2019 19:08
very interesting.
Do you have by chance the panzer strength of the 10th Panzergrenadier Division around 1945?
There is an Excellent Account of the 4 German Army and Waffen SS Panzer and Panzer Grenadier Divisions on the Following Website which includes Information from Outstanding World War II Historian and Expert Kamen Nevenkin who wrote "Fire Brigades" for The 15 German Division Counter-Offensive codenamed "Operation Nordwind" in January 1945 https://www.feldgrau.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=13801 but It doesn't include Strengths and Figures for these 4 Panzer and Panzer Grenadier Divisions, 394th and 667th Assault Gun Brigades and 653rd Heavy Tank Destroyer Battalion for January 1 1945, January 15 1945 and February 1 1945 to figure out what there Strengths and Losses were after They began the Heavy Armored Assaults at Gros-Rederching, Rimling, Hatten and Rittershoffen and Herrlisheim during "Operation Nordwind" in January 1945.
I would love to find out These figures for the 4 Panzer and Panzer-Grenadier Divisions, 2 Assualt Gun Brigades, and the Heavy Tank Destroyer Battalion for January 1, January 15 and February 1 1945 German Reports during "Operation Nordwind".
Thanks, Daniel Kneeland, Grafton, Ma.

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Re: 25. Panzer-Grenadier-Division - Panzer strength on 1 Jan 1945

Post by Алексей » 02 Mar 2020 16:20

offizier1916 wrote:
28 Jan 2019 19:08
very interesting.
Do you have by chance the panzer strength of the 10th Panzergrenadier Division around 1945?
Kampf Gr. 10 PzGr.Div.(30.12.44)
StuG III–26/8/7(combat ready/under repair/in delivery)
StuG IV–3(under repair)

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Re: 25. Panzer-Grenadier-Division - Panzer strength on 1 Jan 1945

Post by Алексей » 02 Mar 2020 17:15

A little more on the 10 PzGr.Div.:

20.02.45
StuG–19/10(combat ready/in repair)
7,5 cm Pak mot.Z u.Sf–3/0

25.02.45
StuG–13/15
7,5 cm Pak mot.Z.u.Sf–2/1

20.03.45
Pz.IV lg(Pz.IV/70(V)–1/3
StuG-III–10/11
7,5 cm Pak mot.Z.u.Sf–3/1

5.04.45
Pz.IV lg(Pz.IV/70(V)–2/2
StuG-III–6/4
StuG-IV–5/4
7,4 cm Pak mt.Z.u.Sf.–3/1

15.04.45
Pz.IV lg(Pz.IV/70(V)–4/0
StuG-III–10/1
StuG-IV–8/1
7,5 cm Pak mot.Z.u.Sf–8/1

Gliederung 25 PzGrDiv on 25.02.45
25 Pz.Div._20 февраля 1945 г.8(69).jpg
25 Pz.Div._20 февраля 1945 г.8(70).jpg
Gliederung 10 PzGrDiv on 6.02.45
10 PzGr.Div._6 февраля 1945 г.8(39).jpg
10 PzGr.Div._6 февраля 1945 г.8(40).jpg
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Re: 25. Panzer-Grenadier-Division - Panzer strength on 1 Jan 1945

Post by Alanmccoubrey » 11 Jul 2021 11:40

Алексей wrote:
02 Mar 2020 17:15
A little more on the 10 PzGr.Div.:

20.02.45
StuG–19/10(combat ready/in repair)
7,5 cm Pak mot.Z u.Sf–3/0

25.02.45
StuG–13/15
7,5 cm Pak mot.Z.u.Sf–2/1

20.03.45
Pz.IV lg(Pz.IV/70(V)–1/3
StuG-III–10/11
7,5 cm Pak mot.Z.u.Sf–3/1

5.04.45
Pz.IV lg(Pz.IV/70(V)–2/2
StuG-III–6/4
StuG-IV–5/4
7,4 cm Pak mt.Z.u.Sf.–3/1

15.04.45
Pz.IV lg(Pz.IV/70(V)–4/0
StuG-III–10/1
StuG-IV–8/1
7,5 cm Pak mot.Z.u.Sf–8/1

Gliederung 25 PzGrDiv on 25.02.4525 Pz.Div._20 февраля 1945 г.8(69).jpg25 Pz.Div._20 февраля 1945 г.8(70).jpg

Gliederung 10 PzGrDiv on 6.02.4510 PzGr.Div._6 февраля 1945 г.8(39).jpg10 PzGr.Div._6 февраля 1945 г.8(40).jpg
Sadly that Gliederung is for 25 Panzer Division, not 25 Pz Gren Division.
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Re: 25. Panzer-Grenadier-Division - Panzer strength on 1 Jan 1945

Post by Алексей » 11 Jul 2021 13:53

Sorry,I made a mistake:
Gliederung 1.01.45_096.jpg
Gliederung 1.01.45_103.jpg
Gliederung 6.02.45_098.jpg
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