Kursk Prokhorovka battle, latest analysis caused quite a stir.

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Kursk Prokhorovka battle, latest analysis caused quite a stir.

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Post by DC North West » 14 Jul 2019, 08:50

Hi

Ben Wheatley, analysed German Luftwaffe aerial photos of the Prokhorovka battlefield, taken on 14-16 July, when the area was still in German hands. The photos were found in the US National Archives at College Park, Maryland.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-48963295,

“Wheatley's assessment, backed by detailed study of battle reports and historical archives, is that on 12 July the Germans lost just five Panzer IV tanks at Prokhorovka, but decimated "kamikaze" Soviet tank formations, turning more than 200 Soviet tanks into smouldering wrecks.”

“Military historian Alexei Isayev told BBC Russian that Soviet losses at Prokhorovka tallied with Wheatley's assessment. Soviet accounts spoke of 237 Soviet tanks destroyed, along with 14 self-propelled guns, Isayev said.
But he also said the Germans could have withdrawn their own damaged tanks from the battlefield after 12 July but before the aerial photos were taken. In that case, they would not show up on the photos studied by Wheatley.
Wheatley's research suggests that, on 12 July, in the area covered by aerial photos the Germans had a maximum of 27 tanks either destroyed or damaged.”

As anyone seen Ben Wheatley’s published detailed study.



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Post by Art » 14 Jul 2019, 12:27

DC North West wrote:
14 Jul 2019, 08:50
“Military historian Alexei Isayev told BBC Russian that Soviet losses at Prokhorovka tallied with Wheatley's assessment. Soviet accounts spoke of 237 Soviet tanks destroyed, along with 14 self-propelled guns, Isayev said.
Destroyed AND damaged (repairable losses). 138 tanks destroyed and abandoned and 99 damaged to be exact.
Which are numbers you can find in the book by Zamulin.

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Post by Urmel » 24 Sep 2019, 23:06

Wheatley is on twitter and may respond to questions there.
The enemy had superiority in numbers, his tanks were more heavily armoured, they had larger calibre guns with nearly twice the effective range of ours, and their telescopes were superior. 5 RTR 19/11/41

The CRUSADER Project - The Winter Battle 1941/42

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