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Need help [Pi.Fü., Na.Fü.]

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Post by CNE503 » 02 Aug 2019, 23:42

Hello,

I'm looking for the exact assignments and ranks of several people shown in the attachment.
First, in the Waffenoffiziere categories (Stabsoffizier für Pioniere Stopi, later Pionierführer, and Stabsoffizier für Nachrichtentruppe Stonach, later Nachrichtenführer), what was the difference between a junior officer who was "Adj." (Adjutant?) and another one, same rank, who was "Sachbearb." (I'm guessing meaning Sachbearbeiter)?
--> numbers 21 and 22, Hauptleute Mans and Benze for the Stopi; numbers 24, 25 and 26, Hauptleute der Reserve Grosse, Plag and Muzold for the Stonach.
Then, could anyone please tell me what was the meaning (I'm guessing it was a rank for a Beamte) of KVR, KVI, Techn.O.Insp. (N)?

Thank you for any help provided.
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Post by DirkAH » 03 Aug 2019, 11:51

Hello!

KVI and KVR were indeed ranks for Beamte.
KVR is Kriegsverwaltungsrat and KVI means Kriegsverwaltungsinspektor. Techn.O.Insp. means Technischer Oberinspektor and is also a rank for Beamte but i have know idea what (N) denotes.
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Post by Rossano » 03 Aug 2019, 19:23

Hello CNE503
Will You be so kind to tell from which NARA roll + frames nos.(and/or link)
does the attachment above come ?
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Post by Leo Niehorster » 04 Aug 2019, 09:03

"(N)" = Nachrichtenwesen
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Post by CNE503 » 05 Aug 2019, 18:58

Many thanks to all of you!
No one about the difference between "Adj." and "Sachbearb."?

Rossano, I'll send you the information you requested in a couple of days, when I'll get access to it!

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Post by CNE503 » 05 Aug 2019, 19:05

Another one: what was a "Schlüsseloffizier"? Knowing that "Schlüssel" is the key, I'm guessing it has something to deal with the coding and encrypting of the signals. But am I right?

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Post by CNE503 » 07 Aug 2019, 16:11

*Up*

No one about the exact meaning of "Adj." and "Sachbearb." or "Schlüsseloffizier", concerning a signal officer?
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Post by Rossano » 07 Aug 2019, 17:47

Adj.(Adjutant) is a normal aide of higher officers
Sachbearb.(Sachbearbeiter) is an officer in a high staff specialized in some branch/field
Schlüsseloffizier is an officer able to decypher/encrypt messages
P.S.: I hope You´ll give me the reply I asked for above (or the whole list per email.....)

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Post by CNE503 » 08 Aug 2019, 10:05

Thank you Rossano.
I don't forget you, that's just that I'm currently not with my archives. So just wait for a couple of weeks and I will give you the complete date you asked for.

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Post by CNE503 » 12 Aug 2019, 21:52

@Rossano
The documents can be found in NARA T501 R275 file 799 and the following ones until 815.
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Post by Rossano » 13 Aug 2019, 08:40

Thanks for the doc. no., so now I could check in my lists and I found it (I too have that list of the DHM Rumänien already, sorry). Thanks anyway !

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