USSR was basically irrelevant in ww2

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USSR was basically irrelevant in ww2

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Post by mustang19 » 01 Dec 2019, 03:15

Romania joined the axis to defend against the Soviets. Before then it was allied aligned.

Without USSR Romania and Germany would just kill each other. War would end sooner. The bulk of Axis forces in the east were Romanians and Finn's and both were just there because of the USSR.

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Post by OpanaPointer » 01 Dec 2019, 03:25

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Post by Gorque » 01 Dec 2019, 03:35

Would you let us all in on what you're smoking. You know, for those times that even a triple won't do.

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Post by mustang19 » 01 Dec 2019, 03:38

Gorque wrote:
01 Dec 2019, 03:35
Would you let us all in on what you're smoking. You know, for those times that even a triple won't do.
The Dnieper Offensive, Stalingrad etc

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Post by Gorque » 01 Dec 2019, 03:46

I'll bite.

Numbers of the respective combatants?

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Post by mustang19 » 01 Dec 2019, 03:49

Gorque wrote:
01 Dec 2019, 03:46
I'll bite.

Numbers of the respective combatants?
At Stalingrad, by Wikipedia:

400k Germans
200k each Romania/Hungary/Italy

As you can see Germany wasn't the majority. Without it's allies it's be pretty screwed. Italy joined the Allies anyways, Hungary was unreliable, Romania was allied until the Soviets.

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Post by Gorque » 01 Dec 2019, 04:10

Kool:

I'll now let those members with greater knowledge of military matters abuse you.

Now if you'll excuse me, I've got a Civ 6 game waiting to entertain me and the future responses to your crazy posts to amuse in the future.

Where's the pop-corn?

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Post by mustang19 » 01 Dec 2019, 04:16

Gorque wrote:
01 Dec 2019, 04:10
Kool:

I'll now let those members with greater knowledge of military matters abuse you.

Now if you'll excuse me, I've got a Civ 6 game waiting to entertain me and the future responses to your crazy posts to amuse in the future.

Where's the pop-corn?
I mean you can also consider the Dnieper Offensive, Soviet invasion of Romania and others considering this ewere huge parts of the war and also how the Axis utterly collapsed when Romania switched...

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Post by Алексей » 01 Dec 2019, 09:04

Oh,God,again... :D

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