II./Artillerie-Regiment 818, 1941

Discussions on all (non-biographical) aspects of the Freikorps, Reichswehr, Austrian Bundesheer, Heer, Waffen-SS, Volkssturm and Fallschirmjäger and the other Luftwaffe ground forces. Hosted by Christoph Awender.
CNE503
Member
Posts: 2356
Joined: 23 Aug 2010 12:01
Location: Bourges, Berry, France

II./Artillerie-Regiment 818, 1941

Post by CNE503 » 03 Apr 2021 10:23

Hello,

Does anyone know what type of gun/howitzer this artillery battalion used at the start of operation "Barbarossa"?
I read somewhere that it was 10,5cm Kanonen, but I can't trace the exact model.

Thank you for your help.
Regards,
CNE503
"Sicut Aquila" / "Ils s'instruisent pour vaincre" / "par l'exemple, le coeur et la raison" / "Labor Omnia Vincit"

User avatar
donwhite
Member
Posts: 198
Joined: 17 Dec 2004 00:38
Location: Australia

Re: II./Artillerie-Regiment 818, 1941

Post by donwhite » 03 Apr 2021 11:00

Tessin states that Art.Abt. II./818 was equipped with 10 cm-Kan although the first noted deployment in this text is with 2nd Army in '42:

"Art.Abt. II./828 (10 cm-Kan.): 1942 2. Armee (Hgr, B) im Donbogen und Bei Woronesch; 6. 5. 1953 aufgelöst und als leichte Art.Abt. (RSO II./818 mit leichten FH wieder aufgestellt; 1944/45 8. Armee Slowakei."

So I'm assuming the 10cm-Kan. were present in the unit at the time of Barbarossa.

Cheers
Last edited by donwhite on 03 Apr 2021 11:08, edited 1 time in total.

Jan-Hendrik
Member
Posts: 8398
Joined: 11 Nov 2004 12:53
Location: Hohnhorst / Deutschland

Re: II./Artillerie-Regiment 818, 1941

Post by Jan-Hendrik » 03 Apr 2021 11:02

Per Uwe K18 mot.Z.

Jan-Hendrik

CNE503
Member
Posts: 2356
Joined: 23 Aug 2010 12:01
Location: Bourges, Berry, France

Re: II./Artillerie-Regiment 818, 1941

Post by CNE503 » 03 Apr 2021 11:19

II./Artillerie-Regiment 818 was supporting XI. Armeekorps (11. Armee) during the crossing of th Pruth river early July 1941.
10cm-Kan. were 10cm sK 18, correct?
CN503
"Sicut Aquila" / "Ils s'instruisent pour vaincre" / "par l'exemple, le coeur et la raison" / "Labor Omnia Vincit"

CNE503
Member
Posts: 2356
Joined: 23 Aug 2010 12:01
Location: Bourges, Berry, France

Re: II./Artillerie-Regiment 818, 1941

Post by CNE503 » 02 Jun 2021 22:29

Hello,

Does anyone know what were the vehicles used by this battalion to tow its 10cm schwere Kanonen 18 in early July 1941?
SdKfz. 8?

Thank you for any help provided.
Regards,
CNE503
"Sicut Aquila" / "Ils s'instruisent pour vaincre" / "par l'exemple, le coeur et la raison" / "Labor Omnia Vincit"

CNE503
Member
Posts: 2356
Joined: 23 Aug 2010 12:01
Location: Bourges, Berry, France

Re: II./Artillerie-Regiment 818, 1941

Post by CNE503 » 04 Jun 2021 03:15

If I read correctly Askey's table of organization for a motorized heavy 10cm battalion such as II./Artillerie-Regiment 818, the 10cm K18 guns were indeed towed with SdKfz. 7 mittlerer Zugkraftwagen 8t: https://books.google.fr/books?id=6u8GBg ... ed&f=false

CNE503
"Sicut Aquila" / "Ils s'instruisent pour vaincre" / "par l'exemple, le coeur et la raison" / "Labor Omnia Vincit"

wwilson
Member
Posts: 181
Joined: 29 Sep 2012 08:33

Re: II./Artillerie-Regiment 818, 1941

Post by wwilson » 04 Jun 2021 06:18

Not an exact hit (this is a 10-cm battery in a Panzer division), but the towing vehicles are Sd.Kfz. 7's.

http://www.wwiidaybyday.com/kstn/kstn4571nov41.htm

Cheers

CNE503
Member
Posts: 2356
Joined: 23 Aug 2010 12:01
Location: Bourges, Berry, France

Re: II./Artillerie-Regiment 818, 1941

Post by CNE503 » 04 Jun 2021 07:43

Thank you, even if it is a later KStN, and for an armored division, it is another piece in the puzzle.
My assessment is that, indeed, in July 1941, II./Artillerie-Regiment 818 10cm K18 guns were towed with half-tracked SdKfz. 7.

Regards,
CNE503
"Sicut Aquila" / "Ils s'instruisent pour vaincre" / "par l'exemple, le coeur et la raison" / "Labor Omnia Vincit"

Russ3Z
Member
Posts: 30
Joined: 16 Oct 2018 19:49
Location: North Carolina, USA

Re: II./Artillerie-Regiment 818, 1941

Post by Russ3Z » 04 Jun 2021 13:16

For what it's worth, Niehorster Volume 3/II shows a KStN 454 from Feb 1941 as a 10.5cm battery employed in Corps or Army-level battalions.

A later version of KStN 454 from Nov 1941 is shown as being used in motorized infantry divisions.

The November versions of 454 and 457 seem to differ slightly in their HQr and Signals units.

http://www.niehorster.org/011_germany/4 ... 11-41.html
http://www.niehorster.org/011_germany/4 ... 11-41.html

Return to “Heer, Waffen-SS & Fallschirmjäger”