Artillerie-Kommandeur organization, July 1941
Artillerie-Kommandeur organization, July 1941
Hello,
Could someone please tell me how was organized such a staff in July 1941?
The manpower strength would be great!
Regards,
CNE503
Could someone please tell me how was organized such a staff in July 1941?
The manpower strength would be great!
Regards,
CNE503
"Sicut Aquila" / "Ils s'instruisent pour vaincre" / "par l'exemple, le coeur et la raison" / "Labor Omnia Vincit"
Re: Artillerie-Kommandeur organization, July 1941
It's KStN 24, widely available, eg. from Lexicon, ca. 35 of personnel.
Re: Artillerie-Kommandeur organization, July 1941
Thank you, indeed I found it on Lexikon (even if it looks like a late war KStN, probably 1945, I don't think that this staff internal organization evolved that much).
CNE503
CNE503
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Re: Artillerie-Kommandeur organization, July 1941
Wrong, 24 is the Höh. Arko (or Harko), which was found at Army-level.
The Arko (KStN 25) as of 1.2.1941 is lost, but replaced by the 1.1.1945 version. I still hope to find the original KStN somewhere, so if someone has it, please let me know where to find it!
Piet
The Arko (KStN 25) as of 1.2.1941 is lost, but replaced by the 1.1.1945 version. I still hope to find the original KStN somewhere, so if someone has it, please let me know where to find it!
Piet
Re: Artillerie-Kommandeur organization, July 1941
Copy that, Piet, thank you.
I guess that a Corps Arko in 1941 was around 20-men strong, as in 1945, though.
Regards,
CNE503
I guess that a Corps Arko in 1941 was around 20-men strong, as in 1945, though.
Regards,
CNE503
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Re: Artillerie-Kommandeur organization, July 1941
Personnel wise the Arko did not change a lot.
Re: Artillerie-Kommandeur organization, July 1941
In T 283 R 146 you find the summary of the October 37 version:
5+2+10 men
2 Pkw
1 LKW
1 bus,
3 motorcycles, of which 2 with sidecar
I hope this was useful for you
Max
5+2+10 men
2 Pkw
1 LKW
1 bus,
3 motorcycles, of which 2 with sidecar
I hope this was useful for you
Max
Re: Artillerie-Kommandeur organization, July 1941
Max,
It is, thank you very much!
I guess that the October 1937 organization was not reviewed before 1941, so it was the actual organization at the start of "Barbarossa", right?
Many thanks again!
Regards,
CNE503
It is, thank you very much!
I guess that the October 1937 organization was not reviewed before 1941, so it was the actual organization at the start of "Barbarossa", right?
Many thanks again!
Regards,
CNE503
"Sicut Aquila" / "Ils s'instruisent pour vaincre" / "par l'exemple, le coeur et la raison" / "Labor Omnia Vincit"
Re: Artillerie-Kommandeur organization, July 1941
CNE,
in February 41 a new version of the KStN was issued , we don't know anything about it, as Piet stated.
All the best
Max
in February 41 a new version of the KStN was issued , we don't know anything about it, as Piet stated.
All the best
Max
Re: Artillerie-Kommandeur organization, July 1941
Oops, my bad, indeed.
Anyway, 17 men in 1937, 22 in 1945, I guess that the 1941 KStN had not totally changed.
Regards,
CNE503
Anyway, 17 men in 1937, 22 in 1945, I guess that the 1941 KStN had not totally changed.
Regards,
CNE503
"Sicut Aquila" / "Ils s'instruisent pour vaincre" / "par l'exemple, le coeur et la raison" / "Labor Omnia Vincit"
Re: Artillerie-Kommandeur organization, July 1941
Yes,
in my opinion the 41 KStN had the same vehicles of the 37 version and two or three more men.
Regards
Max
in my opinion the 41 KStN had the same vehicles of the 37 version and two or three more men.
Regards
Max
Re: Artillerie-Kommandeur organization, July 1941
Max,
Thank you!
CNE503
Thank you!
CNE503
"Sicut Aquila" / "Ils s'instruisent pour vaincre" / "par l'exemple, le coeur et la raison" / "Labor Omnia Vincit"
Re: Artillerie-Kommandeur organization, July 1941
In Germandocs in russia site I found (12450 A 84 p 46) a total for KStN 25 in 1941: 23 men, 4 trucks and 3 motorcycles (of which 2 sidecar).
I hope this was useful for you
Max
I hope this was useful for you
Max
Re: Artillerie-Kommandeur organization, July 1941
Max,
It is!
Thank you!
Regards,
CNE503
It is!
Thank you!
Regards,
CNE503
"Sicut Aquila" / "Ils s'instruisent pour vaincre" / "par l'exemple, le coeur et la raison" / "Labor Omnia Vincit"
Re: Artillerie-Kommandeur organization, July 1941
Max,
If I may ask, could you please give me a link to the document you speak about?
Grazie mille,
CNE503
If I may ask, could you please give me a link to the document you speak about?
Grazie mille,
CNE503
"Sicut Aquila" / "Ils s'instruisent pour vaincre" / "par l'exemple, le coeur et la raison" / "Labor Omnia Vincit"