German POW rates of pay

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German POW rates of pay

Post by pinjarra » 21 Nov 2021 23:36

Not sure if this the the right section to ask this, however here goes. I am about to publish a book on the German and Italian POWs held in Western Australia during WW2 and have noted that 99% of the Germans held the rank of "Gerfeiter" or Lance Corporal equivalent in the Australian Army.

I recall being told years ago that is was German policy to promote men captured to be automatically promoted to the next rank above what they normally held.

Is that correct and if so why was that the case.

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Re: German POW rates of pay

Post by aquarya » 22 Nov 2021 08:03

Have seen no evidence of this, nor heard of anything like this in regards to German POW's sent to the US. What is your source?

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Re: German POW rates of pay

Post by aquarya » 22 Nov 2021 20:18

For example, on this page in the list of 21st Panzer Division prisoners in Camp Polk, Louisiana, 8 out of 22 are Gefreiter. The Australian authorities would have looked at their Soldbuecher, to verify their indentities when they were initially processed and could have easily verified their ranks.
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Re: German POW rates of pay

Post by pinjarra » 22 Nov 2021 23:24

Looking at all the dossiers on the 300 POWs who were at Marrinup, 279 are L/Cps, the rest Privates and other NCOs, that is an awful lot of L/Cpls

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Re: German POW rates of pay

Post by aquarya » 23 Nov 2021 13:56

Perhaps they transferred just the Gefreiter into that particular camp? Can you pull the records of other camps to compare?

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Re: German POW rates of pay

Post by aquarya » 21 Dec 2021 21:49

Just found this in Arnold Krammer's Nazi Prisoners of War in America in the footnotes, p. 297:

75 . The separation of prisoners by rank depended, of course, on establishing each man 's true rank. Yet the task was not nearly as simple as it would
appear. For example, the German Army had a number of ranks which did not correspond to American ranks. (An Unterarzt [Junior Physician] and an Untervetermar [Junior Veterinarian]. for example, received the pay of a Ist Sergeant but all the privileges of an officer. American forces had no equivalent rank.) Also, the prisoners were composed of many quasi-military organizations such as the German State Railways, Border PatroL Customs Service. Merchant Marine. Waffen SS. and Allgemeine SS. Moreover, it was also discovered that German commanding officers, a few days before the surrender of Axis forces in North Africa, attempted to create noncommissioned officers in "wholesale" lots in order to prevent the capturing powers from utilizing the labor of many thousands of POW privates. Since the Geneva Convention was silent on the subject, the PMGO tightened its policy in this area and refused to accept as genuine any rank not substantiated by the prisoners' paybook (Soldbuch) or other authenticating documents. War Department, Prisoner of War Circular No. 11 , 20 December 1943; Prisoner of War Circular No. 7. 20 January 1945; PMGO. "A Brief History." pp. 515- 16.

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