SS-Pz.Aufkl.Abt. 11 'Nordland'

[Endzeit Jan]

Hi Lasse
My sources are based on years long gather information from books, archives, and the Internet.
I also got some discounts.
I am in the process of Stellenbesetzung for the III.SS PzK together deliver with his assistant divisions.
Jan

[Regiment Norge]

Hi
Kaiser led the KP. up to 30.01.1944. On the date he was wounded.
Now a Oscha Högg assumed command of the KP. until Kaiser came back.

Jan

What is your source? Mine is based upon the swedish police interigation with Pehrsson 1945.

Hi!

As far as I can remember KAISER and PEHRSSON was wounded in January 1944, and SCHAARSCHMIDT took temporary command until PEHRSSON came back at Narwa in february 1944. But one highranking Hscha in the 3 Cp (can not remember his name) was also wounded in January 1944.

regards

[Endzeit Jan]

Hi
Kaiser and Pehrsson were the 3.Kp. and Scharschmidt in the 4.Kp.

Here my Stellenbesetzung 4.Kp.. I would ask the errors to forgive.:

Kp.fhr Ostuf Schaarschmidt, Johannes Max 01.06.43 -24.01.44
Kp.fhr Ostuf Viehmann, Heinz 24.01.44 - 01.44
Kp.fhr Ostuf Schaarschmidt, Johannes Max 01.44 - 44
Kp.fhr Ostuf Viehmann, Heinz 44 - 10.44
Kp.fhr Ostuf Schirmer, Josef 10.44 - 28.10.44
Kp.fhr Ustuf Stuhn, ? 28.10.44 - 29.10.44(+)
Kp.fhr Ustuf Heß, ? 29.10.44 - 11.44
Kp.fhr Ostuf Erichsen, Georg 11.44 - 24.01.45(+)
Kp.fhr Ostuf Feilberg, Kaj Gustav 24.01.45 - 02.45
Kp.fhr Ostuf Schirmer, Josef 02.45 - 03.45
Kp.fhr Ustuf Schwartz, Mogens 03.45 - 19.04.45

Jan

[Blanusa]

Hey guys

I know that SS-Oscha Wilhelm Högg temporarily led the 3.Kompanie in January 1944 and he is mentioned in this capacity on 30 January 1944. I don't know when he took command but at the time it seems he was the most senior soldier left in the company, all officers and other senior unterführer being wounded to some degree or killed in action. So for now I have no clue who was in command between 17 January, when Pehrsson was wounded, and 30 January, when Högg is mentioned. I also don't know what happened to Högg up until 20 April 1944 when he was promoted to SS-Untersturmführer, Aktive Führer, and from sometime that April became zugführer of 3.Zug within 3.Kompanie, a position he held until he was killed in action on 28 October 1944. On Volksbund.de he is given the rank of SS-Obersturmführer, maybe he received a posthumous promotion, someone might be able to shed more light on this.
I my files I have a mention of a SS-Ustuf ? Kaiser as zugfüher 1.Zug. Unfortunately I have not written down where I found this and I have no dates or any further information.
This is only my guess and I can't back this up by any sources whatsoever, but I think that in January 1944 Kaiser and Pehrsson were the only officers in the company. The more I read the more it seems to me that the entire division had far less manpower than they should have had. Either that, or they had far more catastrophic losses than I am aware of.


/Predrag

[Endzeit Jan]

Hi
Högg KIA on 28.10.1944 by Izriede. Who is it????
Jan

[Regiment Norge]

Hi folks!

I found some handwritten notes about hight NCOs in the unit as listed under:

- Hscha. Eugen FIEN 5. Cp 01.44
- Stuscha. Reinhold WILHELM 2. Cp 01.44
- Hscha. Eugen HIRMKE 1. Cp 01.44
- Uscha. Johannes BÖGE 1. Cp 01.44
- Oscha. Wilhelm LOHSTROH St.Cp 01.44
- Uscha. Paul BORTOT St.Cp 01.44
- Oscha. Erwin SCHMALZ St.Cp 01.44
- Oscha. Karl SCHÄFER St.Cp 04.44
- Hscha. Theodor POLLAK 2. Cp 04.44
- Uscha. Wolfgang BUNZ 3. Cp 04.44
- Oscha. Willi HORSTER 3. Cp 10.44
- Uscha. Heinrich SILLMANNS 5. Cp 10.44
- Hscha. Wolfgang HARTMANN 4. Cp 10.44
- Oscha. Georg ZIEGLER St.Cp 10.44
- Oscha. Josef PRAM 2. Cp 10.44
- Uscha. Wilhelm GREVE 4. Cp 11.44
- Uscha. Sepp KOSCHER 3. Cp 11.44
- Uscha. Rudolf ALTNICKEL 3. Cp 11.44
- Uscha. Willi WOLTERS 3. Cp 11.44
- Oscha. Gustav GEBHARDT 3. Cp 11.44
- Uscha. Franz SCHUMAK 4. Cp 11.44

There is one high NCOs in the 3. Cp that must have had at least a Dienststellung as Zug.-Fhr but I have to trace his name in my file. He was in the 3. Cp in January 1944.

Concerning Ustuf. Olaf Andreas BAKKE from Norway who was a Hilfzarzt in the Btl. He came to the Btl. late in the war and figures on a Stellenbesetzung from 14.4.45. He moved to South-America after his sentence in Norway and I have not been able to find him. Interesting is that he may be one of the last witness to the fate of SAALBACH in Berlin in may 1945. He was captured as POW by the russians in May 1945 in Berlin (think it was 2.5.45). Maybee he could share some light into the escape group that SAALBACH led in the outbreak of Berlin.

Anyone have aditional information on these listed NCOs I would be glad of any information given on the subject.

Regards

[Regiment Norge]

Hi
Högg KIA on 28.10.1944 by Izriede. Who is it????
Jan

Hi Jan!

This is Ustuf. Wilhelm HÖGG, he was in the 3. company - Tapferkeitsoffizier.

regards

[Endzeit Jan]

- Hscha. Eugen FIEN 5. Cp 01.44 (Spieß)
- Hscha. Eugen HIRMKE 1. Cp 01.44 (Spieß)
- Oscha. Wilhelm LOHSTROH St.Cp 01.44 (Schreiber by VWF)
- Hscha. Theodor POLLAK 2. Cp 04.44 (Spieß)
- Oscha. Georg ZIEGLER St.Cp 10.44 (San.Staffel)
- Uscha. Rudolf ALTNICKEL 3. Cp 11.44 (Zg.Fhr.??.Zg.)
- Uscha. Willi WOLTERS 3. Cp 11.44 (Zg.Fhr.??.Zg.)
- Oscha. Gustav GEBHARDT 3. Cp 11.44(Zg.Fhr.1.Zg.)

Jan

[Lasse]

Hi
Kaiser led the KP. up to 30.01.1944. On the date he was wounded.
Now a Oscha Högg assumed command of the KP. until Kaiser came back.

Jan

What is your source? Mine is based upon the swedish police interigation with Pehrsson 1945.

Hi!

As far as I can remember KAISER and PEHRSSON was wounded in January 1944, and SCHAARSCHMIDT took temporary command until PEHRSSON came back at Narwa in february 1944. But one highranking Hscha in the 3 Cp (can not remember his name) was also wounded in January 1944.

regards

But is it even possible that another officer led the company from the start, before Kaiser? Pehrsson claims as I said many times that the first, unnamed, Kp.Fhr was KIA on the 14/1 1944? According to Pehrsson in short it went like this:

14/1 1944: First Kp.Fhr KIA. Pehrsson took over
17/1 1944: Pehrsson wounded and transported to Dorpat for medical treatment.
??/3 1944: Pehrsson returns to the company.
19/4 1944: Pehrsson takes over the company once again when the then commanding officer (Kaiser, obviously) was KIA.

I just find it a bit odd that Pehrsson would belive that Kaiser, if he was the first Kp.Fhr, died the first time on the 14/1, but then still being able to die once again on the 19/4? I would belive that Pehrsson knew who his supperiour officers where, and since he know the exact dates he would most probebly be able to remember their names to, wouldent he?

[Endzeit Jan]

Hi
Führer 3.Kp. no Date:
Kaiser
Högg
Kaiser
Pehrsson
Ahrens
Pehrsson
??
Pehrsson
??
Mack
Feilberg
Pehrsson

Jan

[Lasse]

Hi
Führer 3.Kp. no Date:
Kaiser
Högg
Kaiser
Pehrsson
Ahrens
Pehrsson
??
Pehrsson
??
Mack
Feilberg
Pehrsson

Jan

Yes you posted your list, but I would like a discussion about the posibility that someone was Kp.Fhr before Kaiser. A list dosent say much, especially when it dosent have any real source which you have been able to present. Im not saying definitive that another man was Kp.Fhr before Kaiser, all Im saying is that this is something Pehrsson stated which I belive is something we must take in mind sinice Pehrsson actually was a man who was there and should know what he was talking about.

[Blanusa]

From my notes I have the following:
Fien was killed in action in Berlin, not sure of exact date.
Wilhelm, Waffen- und Gerätwart.
Hirmke was Spieß in 1.Kompanie until the fightig in Kurland, then Spieß in the Stabskompanie.
Lohstroh was captured by the Soviets in August 1944, no further details.
Schmalz was the Schirrmeister und Fahrlehrer until September 1944, TFKII, then sent to KTL Wien.
Schäfer was Führer des Werkstattzuges in Stabskompanie, TFKII
Pollak committed suicide together with his wife on 2 May 1945 in Berlin
Bunz, Wolfgang Friedrich Michael geb.03.09.1923 in Hattenhofe, was a Gruppenführer in 3.Kompanie. Killed in action 30 March 1945
Horster, not sure about this but I have a SS-Oscha Forster, perharps the same, in that case he was wounded in Altdamm and was left blind.
Ziegler, there were actually two Georg Ziegler in the Stabskompanie, one was a Waffenwart and the other führer des Sanitetsstaffel
Gebhardt was a gruppenführer in 3.Kompanie before becoming zugführer of 1.Zug in 1944. I also have him as zugführer 2.Zug


That is all for now. Sorry for the hastily written message. Things are evolving rapidly now


/Predrag

[Regiment Norge]

Hi folks!

Digging in some dusty notes many years back in time I found this aditional information on officers and NCOs within the 3./SS-Pz.Aufkl.Abt 11 "NORDLAND":

Ustuf. Walter KAISER was wounded 15.1.44, 2 Km nordostwärts Kapylowka
Ustuf. Gösta PEHRSSON was wounded 17.1.44 ostwärts Kosherizy
Hscha. Willi HÖGG was wounded 18.1.44 Alt-Bor
Hscha. Arthur FABRIZIUS was KIA 18.1.4 Alt-Bor
Ostuf. Hans SCHAARSCHMIDT was wounded 24.1.44 Westlich Gorki
Oscha. Walter NILSSON was KIA 25.1.44 Rogowitzy together with Uscha. Hans FUCHS, borth KIA durch Stalinorgel Volltreffer.
Oscha. Kurt WEIGL was KIA 29.1.44 Opolje (überfahrt d.fdl. Panzer).

These NCOs and officers was attached ONLY to the 3. company as they were KIA/WIA. But who succeded WEIGL after his death until Narwa I do not know.

Ostuf. SCHAARSCHIDT commanded the company a short time before KAISER (se SS-PA SCHAARSCHMIDT and Beurteilung).

Regards

[Blanusa]

Regarding 1.Kompanie, I have some conflicting notes. I have written that it was reduced to a very small number of vehicles and was therefore subordinated to 2.Kompanie under SS-Ostuf Stamm in December 1944, thus showing Pollak as Spieß in both "companies" from December 1944. Later in March 1945 the remnants of 1.Kompanie, three vehicles and one motorcycle, became a spähtrupp in Stab of the abteilung while SS-Ostuf Lorenz took over 2.Kompanie on 11 March 1945.
Maybe I got it the other way around. Can anybody corroborate or correct this?


/Predrag

[Blanusa]

I think Lasse is correct. There seems to have been another Chef of 3.Kompanie. For some reason I have noted that Kaiser was zugführer 1.Zug, but I can for the love of me not find where I got this as I was not as smart about sources in the early days of my research. I have seen a picture supposedly showing 3.Kompanie in Croatia on a parade of some sort. It depicts three SS-Ustuf's at the front leading the men. One can see Feilberg, not entirely certain but I think more and more he bares resemblance to Kaiser, and lastly Pehrsson. The more I think about it, it seems as though this picture is showing a parade as the three freshly examined officers assume their responsibilities as zugführer of this company, which is what I'm inclined to believe until proven otherwise. Other theories I've been working with are; perhaps during the swearing of the oath, some sort of award ceremony or perhaps simply a parade of the companies to its commander/s. Who can add more to this?
As I am about to leave on a two week vacation this tuesday I will be away from all my research during that time. I will not have time to check any of my sources in the meantime either. But when I return I will have more resources at my disposal and will check then, unless someone finds something in the meantime.

Regiment Norge:
Did Schaarschmidt lead 4.Kompanie and 3.Kompanie at the same time? I have him as Chef 4.Kompanie and wounded at the same date you provide.


/Predrag