SS-Pz.Aufkl.Abt. 11 'Nordland'

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Post by Georg_S » 03 May 2004 20:36

Hello again,
Now I have the name of the last Chef of the 5.Kp
His name was Walter Schwarck and he became
SS-Ustuf before the war ended. Died 1994.
Awards,
EKI, EKII, Allg.Sturmabz.Verwund.i.Silber

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Georg

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Post by Chris Carden » 05 May 2004 00:56

althought not about that division, i just read the book black edelweiss, great account of the war in the artic circle.

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Post by Georg_S » 05 May 2004 06:01

I post some more about the 5.Kompanie of the SS-Pz.A.A.11 "Nordland"
Platoonleaders in that Kp was (according to Ferdinand Weisz)
1.Zug. Kanonenzugfhr Walter Schwarck
Halbzugfhr Ginger
Halbzugfhr Ginger
Zugtruppenfhr Genrich
2.Zug: Pak Weiss and SS-Ustuf Emil Zwingert
Halbzugfhr Behnke
3.Zug IG-Zug Höpfinger, Deutsch and Krämer
4.Zug Pioneerzug SS-Ostuf Schirmer and König

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Post by Georg_S » 05 May 2004 06:10

More info:

the 1.Kompanie under SS-Ostuf Siegfried Lorenz was
equiped with Schwimmwagens when the Abt. was raised in Croatia
they got the 8-Rad and 4-Rad during the period of
the Oranienbaumer Kessel battle.

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Post by Blanusa » 05 May 2004 07:28

Wow great info. Thanks a million Georg. Iv'e alwas wondered about the equipment.
I found a "list" of equipment used by AA11 in a swedish magazine called 'Pansar'. It's a article that covers three magazines, written by Lennart Westberg, or rather a simplification of his article from Armémuseums årsbok 1986(armymuseums yearbook 1986). The part that covers the organisation is in the last part, issue 1/1991, and covers 2 A4 pages. Although I don't know how accurate it is as it only shows one lay-up and says 1943-1945.
Well don't know what I wanted to have said with this exactly, but thanks once again to Georg!! :wink:
Also please Georg, if you would like, pm me your actual name and you will recieve credit on whatever I do with the stuff I got so far.

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Post by Blanusa » 05 May 2004 07:49

Hi

Georg I read somewere that SS-Ustuf Georg Langendorf was zugführer of 1.zug(Sd.Kfz 251/9), don't remember the source right now but I'll check it and get back on that. Also from all the pictures I've seen they used the Sd.Kfz 251/9 ausf. D (low profile).


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Post by Georg_S » 05 May 2004 12:46

Hello Nmy,

It´s Georg Schwab (no secret) =)

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Post by Georg_S » 05 May 2004 13:27

Hello again,

I will list the Stellungsbesetzung over the Stab and Stabskompanie
as it is listed in H Poller (and the SS-A.A.11 Kameradschaft) book:

Kommandeur: SS-Stubaf Rudolf Saalbach (KIA/MIA 5.45)
Adjutanten:
SS-Ustuf Erichson (KIA 1.45 Kurland) (Dane)
SS-Ostuf Reese
O.-Offiziere:
SS-Ostuf Joseph Schmitz (KIA 5.45 Berlin)
SS-Ostuf Mogens Schwarz (Dane)
Spiesse:
SS-Oscha Schrock
SS-Hascha Eugen Hirmke (Since Kurland)
Rechnungsführer:
Dr Erich Vogel
1.Schreiber:
SS-Oscha Wilhelm Lohstroh (Became Soviet POW from 8.44)
SS-Uscha W.Schnabel
II A: SS-Hascha Schultz
Koch: SS-Uscha Hans Södele (KIA 5.45 Berlin)
Furier: SS-Uscha Jan Suree (KIA 5.45 Berlin)
Putzer bei Kommandeur: SS-Rottfhr. Keul
Waffenwart: SS-Oscha Georg Ziegler II
Ärzte:
SS-Hstuf Dr Artner (KIA 5.45 Berlin)
SS-Hstuf Dr Schneider (came from Luftwaffe)
SS-Hstuf Dr Falta (Killed by a Estonian traitor)
Sanitätsstaffel:
SS-Oscha Georg Ziegler I
SS-Uscha Semraus
SS-Uscha Zintel
SS-Strm Petri
The Staffel had 1 Sanka and 1 SPW as its desposial.
I-Staffel TFK I
SS-Hstuf Paul Nieft
SS-Uscha Ludwig Vögle (Schreiber)
TK II.
SS-Hascha Gerhards
SS-Hascha Karl Schäfer, Führer des Werkstattzuges
SS-Oscha Erwin Schmalz, Schirrmeister u Fahrerlehrer (to 9.44 then
posted to KTL Wien)
SS-Oscha A Pracht, Fahrerlehrer
SS-Uscha Karl Balint
I-Trupp
SS-Strm Erwin Spitz
SS-Strm Fabian
SS-Strm Behr
Tankwagenfahrer:
SS-Uscha Seitz, Equipped with LKW with "Halbketten" (Muli) Steyer
Nachrichtenzug:
SS-Oscha Werner
SS-Ustuf Heinz Siebert
1. Halbzug Funk-SPW with completely equipped
Steyerwaggons with transmitter and gear
1Halbzug with 10 "Fernsprecher"
Gruppenführer:
SS-Uscha Pollascheck
SS-Uscha Barth
SS-Rottfhr Konrad
SS-Rottfhr Karl Straub
SS-Rottfhr Hans Tasch
SS-Rottfhr Munter
SPW driver: Kalinvaki
Meldestaffel: (10 to 15 men)
SS-Uscha Rudi Küster
SS-Strm. Herbert Fischer (KIA 44 in Dorpat)
SS-Strm Heinz Genzow, Stabsmelder
Kraderkundungszug: with 15 Schwimmwagen, disolved 12.44
SS-Hascha Karl Grub since a req.tour 2.44 MIA
Versorgungsstaffel: ?
Poststelle:
SS-Uscha Schimanski
SS-Uscha Golly

Best regards,

Georg

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Post by Georg_S » 05 May 2004 17:25

Here is a photo of the Abt. Comm.
SS-Stubaf Rudolf Saalbach

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Post by Blanusa » 05 May 2004 17:50

Thanks

Only now do I see that my stuff on the stab und stabskompanie are a mess. :)
Trying to put together the whole thing now. Had some dates for a couple of the men in the stab und stabskompanie. Also trying to figure out the vehicle situation. Man is my information a mess right now. Only thing going for me is the stellungsbesetzung for the kompanien and as you can see that's quite a mess to. I'll have work on this for a while to put it together to something that people can actually understand, and most of all myself. :wink:

The source I had for Langendorf as zugführer is "Tragedy of the Faithful" page 28.



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Post by Blanusa » 05 May 2004 18:27

I need some help placing the following officer.

Alpmann, Josef
SS-Obersturmführer
Born: 26.07.1920
SS-Nr: 455 933
IVa/SS-Pz.Aufkl.Abt.11 (?-?.06.1944)

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Post by Georg_S » 06 May 2004 06:16

I am sorry that I can´t help you with Dr. Alpmann,
He is not listed at all in the Chronik.
Have you found his name in John P Moore´s führerliste?

I attach a photo of Kurt Meyer from the 2.Kp in A.A.11
I have already posted in before, but I do it again.

Best regards,

Georg

Ps. According to the Chronik, it´s very difficult to get a
complete list how the 2 and 4 Kp looked like, because
they was very few survivors from those two Kompanies.
I know baout 5-6 from those two Kp. who survived, one of them
the Dane Fritz Ihle.

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Post by Panzermahn » 06 May 2004 07:13

Hi NMY,

if i'm not mistaken, the BFC were also attached to the 3rd company of the 11th SS Nordland's AA under Pehrsson...

they got a single kubelwagen and schwimmwagen, right?

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Post by Georg_S » 06 May 2004 08:44

Hello,

The Britische Freikorsp was attached to the SS-Pz.AA.11
a short period during the battle of Altdamm and Küstrin.
But SS-Ogruf Steiner had them removed after just short
while.

Reg.

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Post by Blanusa » 06 May 2004 12:18

I know that Ihle was commanding Sd.Kfz 250/9 Alt nr.214, which would place him in 1.zug of 2.kompanie. Don't know for sure but they should have had two(2) Sd.Kfz 250/3 and four(4) Sd.Kfz 250/9 in this zug.
SS-Ustuf Pollar was the HQ-section leader.

About the BFC. Well I don't really know much there either. From what I understand there were very few of them in AA11. I have 7 names that I at some point during my research picked up somewhere. As I didn't write down the source for this information I will most likely not use it. If they got a vehicle or not I can't tell you. Although I think that by this point every vehicle was valuable and could not be spared by AA11 and it is more likely they got distributed over the existing vehicles. But it is also my understanding that they were never engaged in combat but only used in the rear area digging trenches and defensive positions with 3.kp/AA11

Sorry Georg don't have the führerliste. I don't own enough cash to buy stuff whenever I want. Although I am setting aside a small amount of cash every month for research material. I am currently focusing on stuff that is free :wink: Like visiting libraries, searching the net, consulting poeple at various forums and borrowing books from friends that think ww2 is cool and buy the books because they like the warstories :) And I own some stuff myself. Have no contact with any veterans, don't know how to get in touch with them eather. Not 100% sure but I think most if not all of the swedish veterans from AA11 are long time gone. I have tried with right wing organisatoins also. They could not help me but I met some interesting people and managed to get the book 'Ragnarök' very cheap. How I got in touch with them is a nother story and way of topic so I'm leaving that subject here.
Therefore I am very greatful and want to thank each and every one of you that contribute with any kind of info, escpecially Georg for the info on the stab und stabskompanie and the two pictures.


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