SS-Pz.Aufkl.Abt. 11 'Nordland'

Discussions on all (non-biographical) aspects of the Freikorps, Reichswehr, Austrian Bundesheer, Heer, Waffen-SS, Volkssturm and Fallschirmjäger and the other Luftwaffe ground forces. Hosted by Christoph Awender.
PK
Member
Posts: 210
Joined: 24 Jan 2003 17:32
Location: Stockholm

AA11

Post by PK » 06 May 2004 18:59

SS-Ostuf Kurt Meyer served first as Zugfuhrer and then later as Kompanifuhrer (according to Meyer himself) of 2./AA11.

Heres some info on Awardholders in 5./AA11.

Ritterkreuz
SS-Ostuf Georg Langendorf
SS-Uscha Kaspar Spork

Deutsches Kreuz in Gold
SS-Ostuf George Langendorf

19 holders of the EK1 in 5./AA11

Best Regards / PK

Blanusa
Member
Posts: 239
Joined: 18 Sep 2003 16:44
Location: Stockholm, Sweden

Post by Blanusa » 06 May 2004 20:42

Great info thanks PK

I have this to add on award holder:

Ritterkreuz:
SS-Obersturmführer Georg Langendorf (5.Kp) - 12.03.1944
SS-Hauptsturmführer Rudolf Saalbach (abt. chef) - 12.03.1944 (simultaneous promotion to Stubaf)
SS-Unterscharführer Kaspar Sporck (5.Kp) - 23.10.1944

Das Deutsche Kreuz In Gold:
SS-Obersturmführer Siegfired Lorenz (1.Kp) - 30.12.1944
SS-Untersturmführer Georg Langendorf (5.Kp) - 30.03.1945

Ehrenblattspange des Deutsches Heer:
SS-Obersturmführer Hans-Gösta Pehrsson (3.Kp) - 25.12.1944
SS-Obersturmführer Georg Erichsen (4.Kp) - ?.?.1945

Sorry for repeating the names, did it because of the dates.

/Predrag

User avatar
Georg_S
Forum Staff
Posts: 3494
Joined: 08 Dec 2016 12:37
Location: Sweden

Post by Georg_S » 07 May 2004 08:06

Hello,

SS-Ostuf Kurt Meyer (2./SS-Pz.A.A.11) also recieved the DKiG
but unfortunately is there no evidence of it,
but the "Träger des Deutsches Kreuz im Gold e.V."
have official accepted that Kurt Meyer recieved the
DKiG.

//Georg

User avatar
Georg_S
Forum Staff
Posts: 3494
Joined: 08 Dec 2016 12:37
Location: Sweden

Post by Georg_S » 07 May 2004 08:13

More from the Chronik:

On Jan. 24 44 the SS-Pz.A.A.11 was in heavy fighting and
put in to a two Kampfgruppen, under SS-Ostuf Heckmüller.
those was the 2 and 3 Kp. Kampfgr. S and SS-Ostuf Schmidt
had 1, 4, 5 in Kampfgruppe N.
That day Heckmüller was wounded of some "granatsplitter" in his neck and ear. Also SS-Ostuf Scharschmidt got wounded (light) but SS-Ostuf
Schmidt got more serious wounds in his leg.
SS-Ostuf Viehmann took over the command of the 4. Kompanie
and SS-Ustuf Langendorf took over the 5.Kp.

//Georg

Blanusa
Member
Posts: 239
Joined: 18 Sep 2003 16:44
Location: Stockholm, Sweden

Post by Blanusa » 07 May 2004 23:37

Hi guys.

I've been trying to piece together the crews. Although this is something one should not attempt as it is almost impossible I gave it a shot. Got some incomplete mambo jambo :) but here is a little something anyway. Bare with me, as I've gone with very little to no info and best guesses.

Sd.Kfz 250/3 (nr. 313 ?)
SS-Obersturmführer Hans-Gösta Pehrsson
SS-? ? Wintergerst (driver) (KIA Hornsburg, Pommerania ?.?.1945)
SS-? Franz Kaul (messenger) (KIA Hornsburg, Pommerania ?.?.1945)
SS-? ? Köstner (radio operator)

The crew was in a bunker together when it took a direkt hit by a mortar shell. SS-Ostuf Pehrsson was taken away in SS-Uscha Franz Bereznyak's vehicle (who's driver was Hans Szeckerich at the end in berlin).

Sources: Tragedy of the faithful + some info from forums

I have not yet found out exactly when they were in Hornsburg.

If you think this is irrelevant information please tell and I'll make it disappear or replace it with some other info that I got.

/Predrag

PK
Member
Posts: 210
Joined: 24 Jan 2003 17:32
Location: Stockholm

AA11

Post by PK » 07 May 2004 23:42

Heres a picture of SS-Ostuf Siegfried Lorenz, Kompanifuhrer of 1./AA11

Best Regards / PK
You do not have the required permissions to view the files attached to this post.

PK
Member
Posts: 210
Joined: 24 Jan 2003 17:32
Location: Stockholm

Post by PK » 07 May 2004 23:55

Georg: You write that Lorenz spent 11 years in Russian captivity, whats your source? In the chronical of AA11 you can read "russ. Kriegsgefangenschaft bis 13. Oktober 1955"

Some more detailed info on Lorenz, who was Kompanifuhrer of 1./AA11 from "Aufstellung" to 2. Oktober 1944 and then 8. March 1945 to 2. May 1945 and then 10,5 years in Russian prison.

Best Regards / PK

User avatar
Georg_S
Forum Staff
Posts: 3494
Joined: 08 Dec 2016 12:37
Location: Sweden

Post by Georg_S » 08 May 2004 06:31

Hello PK,

The source is friends of him, Lorenz came from the Sudet-Germany
and his wife had it very difficult after the war, and she had to leave her
home after the war.

Nice photo of Lorenz I have the same =)

//Georg

User avatar
Georg_S
Forum Staff
Posts: 3494
Joined: 08 Dec 2016 12:37
Location: Sweden

Post by Georg_S » 08 May 2004 06:38

nmy wrote:Hi guys.

I've been trying to piece together the crews. Although this is something one should not attempt as it is almost impossible I gave it a shot. Got some incomplete mambo jambo :) but here is a little something anyway. Bare with me, as I've gone with very little to no info and best guesses.

Sd.Kfz 250/3 (nr. 313 ?)
SS-Obersturmführer Hans-Gösta Pehrsson
SS-? ? Wintergerst (driver) (KIA Hornsburg, Pommerania ?.?.1945)
SS-? Franz Kaul (messenger) (KIA Hornsburg, Pommerania ?.?.1945)
SS-? ? Köstner (radio operator)

The crew was in a bunker together when it took a direkt hit by a mortar shell. SS-Ostuf Pehrsson was taken away in SS-Uscha Franz Bereznyak's vehicle (who's driver was Hans Szeckerich at the end in berlin).

Sources: Tragedy of the faithful + some info from forums

I have not yet found out exactly when they were in Hornsburg.

If you think this is irrelevant information please tell and I'll make it disappear or replace it with some other info that I got.

/Predrag


Hello Nmy

What I have understand so was Pehrssons driver in Berlin
SS-Rottfhr (Uscha?) Ragnar Johansson, he is told to be the one
who is laying dead beside Pehrsson SPW (Very famous photo from
Berlin). But the SPW is after the plate reqognized as Pehrssons
SPW atleast.

Source: Ragnarök and Veterans

PK
Member
Posts: 210
Joined: 24 Jan 2003 17:32
Location: Stockholm

AA11

Post by PK » 08 May 2004 11:09

Hello Georg and Predrag,

Do you guys know the name of the substitute to Lorenz when he was away 2.10.44 to 8.3.45 ? And why was he away? did he attend to a "Lehrgang" or was he wounded?

Best Regards / PK

User avatar
Georg_S
Forum Staff
Posts: 3494
Joined: 08 Dec 2016 12:37
Location: Sweden

Post by Georg_S » 08 May 2004 12:32

Hello PK,

I am sorry but I don´t have that information.
But I will check and see if I find something in my
hideouts.

I attach a pretty rare photo of Saalbach.

Regards,

Georg

PK
Member
Posts: 210
Joined: 24 Jan 2003 17:32
Location: Stockholm

AA11

Post by PK » 08 May 2004 13:24

Some info on SS-Stubaf Rudolf Saalbach

Born 18.3.11 in Grossenhain, MIA May 1945

Awards:
Ostmedaille 3.9.1942
E.K. 2. Klasse 12.9.1942
K.V.K 2. Klasse m Schw. Nov 1942
Ritterkreuz 12.3.44

/PK
Last edited by PK on 11 May 2004 15:00, edited 1 time in total.

skrable
Member
Posts: 177
Joined: 03 Oct 2003 17:56
Location: New York

Post by skrable » 08 May 2004 16:34

Oscha. Josef Weber led the 1.Kp. after Lorenz was wounded. Weber too was later wounded or relieved of command, and Oscha. Helmut Seidel led the 1.Kp. until Lorenz voluntarily reported back back to the Abt.

Blanusa
Member
Posts: 239
Joined: 18 Sep 2003 16:44
Location: Stockholm, Sweden

Post by Blanusa » 09 May 2004 18:03

Hey guys

Thanks skrable. I've updated the stellungsbesetzung list on page 1 of this thread.

Found a intresting pic some time ago on http://sspanzer.net/ss_ace/11ss_picture ... icture.htm
it's the middle picture in the last row. The caption tranlated with babelfish says "On May 4, a crowd of German refugee from runs away with the place to Berlin". Found a text on another forum refering to this pic saying that the Sd.Kfz 251 belongs to AA11 and the fallen soldier in the foreground was part of the crew. Can't find the text again, sorry. But does anyone maybe have some more info on this particular pic?

I found out that my mothers father, past away in the 1980's when I was way to young for this, fought with the yugoslav partisans in Croatia 1941-1945. In 1943 he saw action around Agram(Zagreb) and the surrounding mountains/areas. Have not yet been able to map out exactly which area he was in, but there is a slight possibility his unit saw action against AA11. He war ended for his part when he was wounded in the left leg near the sloveninan/croatian border on the croatian side, which left him 20% crippled for the rest of his life.
A little of topic I know, but I will check the stuff he left behind and try to talk to some of his then comrades which today still live in the same village he passed away in, in Serbia, to see if they have some stories or info. My fathers father was also a partisan, and he is still alive. Although his time there is a little doubtful. No one knows what he did there and even today he still won't talk about it.

That's all I've got for now.


/Predrag

User avatar
Georg_S
Forum Staff
Posts: 3494
Joined: 08 Dec 2016 12:37
Location: Sweden

Post by Georg_S » 09 May 2004 20:46

Hello,

Here is the only (?) photo (drawing) of Hans Caspar Sporck
that exists.

Source: Private collection

//Georg

Return to “Heer, Waffen-SS & Fallschirmjäger”