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Post by Timo » 27 Mar 2004 13:09

The ''recce platoon'' with Hansen might very well have been part of the remains of SS AA 1. The ''platoon'' was probably an ad hoc combination from the remains of several Kompanien (which, btw, allready started the offensive on December 16th as a mixture of their original platoons and platoons from dissolved Kompanien). The battered elements of Knittel's Abteilung were in Wanne after their escape from the Ambleve Pocket. After quick reorganization of its troops, the ''combat ready'' elements were send to the Bastogne-area with Wawrzinek (Knittel suffered a concussion and was out of action) but other elements stayed behind in Wanne without equipment (some gave over their equipment to other LAH units).

Perhaps this helps: Unterscharführer Josef Pries was KIA on January 4th during an attack against American positions in the woods 4 km east of Bastogne-Braas. He was a member of Stabskomp./SS AA 1.

Was KG Hansen there too? 4 km east of Bastogne-Braas on that day?

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Post by Timo » 27 Mar 2004 13:24

BTW, does somebody know what the Leibstandarte was doing in on January 22, 1945 and where they were?

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Post by V. Andries » 27 Mar 2004 14:26

Thanks Timo,
Perhaps this helps: Unterscharführer Josef Pries was KIA on January 4th during an attack against American positions in the woods 4 km east of Bastogne-Braas. He was a member of Stabskomp./SS AA 1. Was KG Hansen there too? 4 km east of Bastogne-Braas on that day?
It could well be. I have no sources stating the positions of Kampfgruppen Pötschke and Hansen (let alone that I knew of their existence untilll I read Wolfkin's post...), but when one looks at the captions of pictures depicting wrecked LAH-panzers in the Bastogne sector (in e.g. Pallud's BoB), it appears that the PzIV and Panther of I./SS-PzRgt. 1 (with KG Pötschke) were active in the Lutrebois-Lutremange area, more than 5km to the South-East of Bras). On the other hand, there's a picture of a JgdPz IV, captioned by Pallud as probably belonging to LAH, on the Belgo-Luxemburg border along the N34, a few kilometers to the East of Bras. As SS-PzJägAbt 1 was part of KG Hansen, there you go... Like you said, the 'recce platoon' indeed could well be the remnants of SS-PzAA 1.

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Andries

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SS-FEB 1 „LSSAH“ in 1945?? Yes or No?

Post by Michi » 28 Mar 2004 02:56

Ralf Tiemann in „Die Leibstandarte“ -the division's chronic- mentions nothing about a Feldersatzbataillon (field-replacement battalion) within the LSSAH.
Tessin says yes, form October 1943 till the end.


If there was a SS-FEB 1 „LSSAH“, who were the CO's??
OOB??
TO&E??
What was the way of the SS-FEB 1 „LSSAH“??


MfG Michi

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Post by Timo » 28 Mar 2004 04:45

See my PM Michi

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Post by Michi » 28 Mar 2004 20:57

The only thing Ralf Tiemann mentions are the

--> • 1. Panzer-Ausbildungs-Kompanie
CO: SS-Ustuf Hennecke
--> • 2. Panzer-Ausbildungs-Kompanie
CO: SS-Ostuf Fischer, Arndt

attached(?) to the II./SS-PzRgt 1 „LSSAH“

What was the purpose/assignment these two coys??

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Post by Michi » 31 Mar 2004 16:56

One of the most unknown „LSSAH“ unit is the

--> • SS-Wach-Bataillon 1 „LSSAH“.

On the weekend or early next week I will receive some infos on this short-living battalion.



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Post by Wolfkin » 04 Apr 2004 09:57

Hello V. Andries!

I am sorry that I could not answer your question. All my sources state is just a "Pioneer Kompanie or Zug" or a "Aufklarung Kompanie or Zug". Nothing really specific. I wish I could help more.

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Post by Wolfkin » 04 Apr 2004 10:45

Hello!

I/SS Panzer Regiment 1 during the Ardennes Offensive:

Commander: Sturmbannfuhrer Werner Poetschke
Adjutant: Untersturmfuhrer Arndt Fischer then Untersturmfuhrer Rolf Reiser

1st Kompanie: Obersturmfuhrer Karl Kremser
2nd Kompanie: Obersturmfuhrer Friedrich Christ
6th Kompanie: Obersturmfuhrer Benoni Junker
7th Kompanie: Hauptsturmfuhrer Oskar Klingelhofer

The 1st SS Panzer Regiment had to reorganize as one Abteilung, the I Abteilung, with the 1st, 2nd, 6th and 7th Kompanie. Much like the 12th SS Panzer Regiment which reorganized as one Abteilung, the I Abteilung, with the 1st, 3rd, 5th and 6th Kompanie.

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Post by Wolfkin » 04 Apr 2004 11:48

Hello!

I/SS Panzer Regiment 1 during Operation Southwind and Spring Awakening in Hungary:

Commander: Sturmbannfuhrer Werner Poetschke
Adjutant: Untersturmfuhrer Walter Schoof

1st Kompanie: Obersturmfuhrer Werner Wolff
2nd Kompanie: Hauptsturmfuhrer Hans Malkomes
6th Kompanie: Obersturmfuhrer Werner Sternebeck
7th Kompanie: Hauptsturmfuhrer Oskar Klingelhofer

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Post by V. Andries » 04 Apr 2004 11:55

I am sorry that I could not answer your question. All my sources state is just a "Pioneer Kompanie or Zug" or a "Aufklarung Kompanie or Zug". Nothing really specific. I wish I could help more.
No problem, Wolfkin, I already learned a lot from that first post.

kind regards,

Andries

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Re: Ernst Barkmann

Post by Tolga Alkan » 04 Apr 2004 13:28

Beau sabreur wrote:
Tolga Alkan wrote:
Wolfkin wrote: Hey Tolga! That is a very interesting quote from Barkmann! I never knew that a Panzerkompanie of Das Reich was with the Leibstandarte during this time! Very interesting! Thanks for posting that information!
Yes,this is the very interesting fact,a split battle of Panzer Regiments "Das Reich" and "LSSAH".I only know that battles near Vienna they fought together.Maybe they did it in Kursk,i don't know details.Fedorowicz published a book titled,"Drama Between Budapest and Vienna, The Final Fighting of the 6. Panzer-Armee" by Georg Maier.Its so expensive for me at the moment, $135.I hope to get it:)

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Tolga

While corresponding with Ernst Barkmann, he told me about the battle in Hungary, 1945 south of the Plattensee when his Panthers covered Jochen Peiper's retreat to the Vienna Woods. He remembers Peiper as one of the greatest commanders of the Waffen SS and a friend he will never forget. He said he remained a good comrade until the last day of his life. He told me he met J. Peiper again in 1959 during an old comrade meeting at the "Walhalla" in Regensburg, and that was the last time he saw him.
Cheers!
Thanks for sharing experience with Barkmann.It was one of the interesting fact i have ever read.

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Re: Ernst Barkmann

Post by Beau sabreur » 06 Apr 2004 01:38

Tolga Alkan wrote:
Beau sabreur wrote:
Tolga Alkan wrote:
Wolfkin wrote: Hey Tolga! That is a very interesting quote from Barkmann! I never knew that a Panzerkompanie of Das Reich was with the Leibstandarte during this time! Very interesting! Thanks for posting that information!
Yes,this is the very interesting fact,a split battle of Panzer Regiments "Das Reich" and "LSSAH".I only know that battles near Vienna they fought together.Maybe they did it in Kursk,i don't know details.Fedorowicz published a book titled,"Drama Between Budapest and Vienna, The Final Fighting of the 6. Panzer-Armee" by Georg Maier.Its so expensive for me at the moment, $135.I hope to get it:)

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Tolga

While corresponding with Ernst Barkmann, he told me about the battle in Hungary, 1945 south of the Plattensee when his Panthers covered Jochen Peiper's retreat to the Vienna Woods. He remembers Peiper as one of the greatest commanders of the Waffen SS and a friend he will never forget. He said he remained a good comrade until the last day of his life. He told me he met J. Peiper again in 1959 during an old comrade meeting at the "Walhalla" in Regensburg, and that was the last time he saw him.
Cheers!
Thanks for sharing experience with Barkmann.It was one of the interesting fact i have ever read.
Hi Tolga !
It is surely very interesting to hear first hand stories from those who were in the thick of the action. I was lucky enough to meet ex british soldiers who fought in North Africa, a sailor from the Taschepanzerschiff Graf Spee, many Heer, Falschirmjäger (Kreta) and Panzer soldiers who fought in the East and other theaters of war. I also met Oberst H.U. Rudel the nemesis of the T34s.
Cheers!

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Post by Georg_S » 10 Apr 2004 17:09

Hello
I will contribute with some info on
II./SS-Pz.Gren.Rgt.2 "LSSAH" (Feb.-Mai. 1945)
Btl.Kdr.
SS-Stubaf M Junge +
SS-Stubaf Rau
SS-Stubaf Eberhard +
Adjutant
SS-Hstuf Schmitt
OO ?
Verw.Fhr.
SS-Ostuf Seebauer
Arzt ?
TFK ?
6. Kp. ?
7.Kp.
SS-Ostuf Bieder
8.Kp.
SS-Ostuf Kübler +
SS-Ostuf Schellhammer
9.Kp ?
10.Kp.
SS-Ostuf Keil
Versorg.Kp.
SS-Ostuf Seebauer

Best reg,

Georg

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Post by Wolfkin » 25 Apr 2004 01:58

Hello all!

How about the Knights Cross Winners of the Leibstandarte during this time!

Obersturmbannfuhrer Jochen Peiper, Swords on January 11, 1945
Hauptsturmfuhrer Josef Diefenthal, Knight's Cross on February 5, 1945
Sturmbannfuhrer Werner Poetschke, Oakleaves on March 15, 1945
Sturmbannfuhrer Max Hansen, Oakleaves on March 28, 1945
Untersturmfuhrer Konrad Heubeck, Knight's Cross on April 17, 1945

These are the ones that I can think of, does anyone know of any more?

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Wolfkin

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