Division "Ferdinand von Schill"...

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Division "Ferdinand von Schill"...

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Post by Timo » 28 Jul 2002, 01:23

Consolidated Division Ferdinand von Schill, part of Wehrmacht XXII Korps of the 12 Armee

Is any info available about this unit?

Any help would be very much appreciated.

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Post by Andy H » 29 Jul 2002, 22:03

Hi Timo

All Ihave is that it was formed on April 24th'45 from the Berg Sturmgeschutz School with 2 Regiments, where it then went to 12th Army where it was designated the Burg Brigade

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Post by Timo » 29 Jul 2002, 22:07

Yes, David gave me the details on the Feldgrau forum.

Thanks for your reply.

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Post by Marcus » 29 Jul 2002, 23:00

Andy,

I don't know if you visit that forum, so here is what David wrote:
Hi Timo, from Gellermann, :Die Armee Wenck-Hitlers letze Hoffnung":

"Die Infanterie Division Schill
Diese Division ging aus der Sturmgeschutze Burg bei Magdeburg hervor. Die Soldaten der Schule wurden am 10 April 1945 wegen des schnelen Vormasches der Amerikaner auf die Elbe durch den Wehrkreis XI alarmiert,
infanteristisch ausgerustet und zur Kampfgruppe Burg umgegliedert. Der Verband wurde auf dem Ostufer der Elbe zur Abwehr der vordringenden Truppen der 9. US-Armee eingesetze. Major Alfred Muller, Kommandeur der Kampfgruppe, gliederte sich samtliche in seunem Operations-bereich befindlichen Wehrmachteinheiten ein, so daB diese innerhalb weniger Tage eine Starke von 8,000--10,000 Mann erheilt. Muller organisierte seine Kampfgruppe wie eine Infanterie-Division.
Am 20. April nahm das AOK 12 Verbindung zu diesem Verband auf und unterstellte ihn sich unter gleichzeitiger Umbenennung in Division Schill. Ihre Kommandeur wurde zugleich zum Oberstleutnant befordert. Uber Soll-Starken verfugten nur die Grenadier- Regiment 1 und 2 sowie das Fusilier-Battallon. Alle anderen
Verbande waren schwacher, als sie gemaB der vorgegebenen Planzahlen nach Gliederung und Starke einer Inf.Div. 45 hatten sein mussen.
(page 39)
Die Division war nur teilmotorisiert, so daB die Verlegung von der Elbefront an die Einsatzorte im Osten per Kleinbahn erfolgen muBte. (page 40)

Leaders, page 198:

Div Kdr. Oberstlt. Muller, Alfred
Ia Major i. G. Rudolph
Ib Hptm. Omnus, Walter
O3 Oblt. Reupke

Gren. Regt. 1 Major Carstens
Gren Regt. 2 Major Kley
Gren. Regt. 3 Major Muller

Sturmartillerie -Lehr-Brig. (sp St. Gesch. Brig. Schill)
Bis 18.4 Major Vaerst, Georg (gef.)
ab 18.4 Major Nebel, Peter"


I hope this helps, Best Regards, David


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Post by Andy H » 30 Jul 2002, 18:45

Hi Marcus

Thanks for the post.

I used to spend all my time at Feldgrau until your Forum changed it's format and I've generally found the quality better here since then, but I do go back every now and then since most people post on both forums.

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Post by Timo » 30 Jul 2002, 18:54

Here's what Michi added:
The name of the Division was "Schill", not "Ferdinand von Schill"

Here is it from VOSS & KEHLENBECK "Letzte Divisionen":

p.280:
Sturm-Geschütz-Brigade "Schill":
1 x HQ-btty
3 x StuG-btty

p.282:
Sturm-Artillerie-Brigade "Schill"
1 x HQ-btty
3 x StuG-btty
1 x StuGBegl-btty
1 x Sd-btty (Pz V & Pz VI)

The armament with newest weapons were possible, as the factories around Berlin produced till the very last day.
So many new StuG's were here.

But also some old and on the first look not battle-worthy StuG's and Panzers, of the military-training place Altengrabow, were rebuilt.

CO: --18/04/1945: Mjr Dr. VAERST
18/04/1945: Mjr NEBEL

CO of the btty:
1st StuGBt:....???
2nd StuGBt:....Olt HOLZMANN
3rd StuGBt:.....Lt PRIMOZIC
And an additional email exchange I had with him about this:
Hallo Michi,

Is it save to assume that Sturm-Artillerie-Brigade "Schill" was actually Sturm-Geschütz-Brigade "Schill" with the additional Sd-btty (Pz V & Pz VI)?

Regards,
Timo
There were three \"units\":

1.) Sturm-Geschütz-Abteilung (w/ 31 StuG\'s?)

2.) Sturm-Geschütz-Brigade (w/ 45 StuG\'s?)

3.) Sturm-Artillerie-Brigade (w/ 31 StuG\'s?? + a StuG-escort-btty (mechanized
Infantry coy) + (sometimes) a Tank-escort-btty (w/ Pz II))

For the \"Schill\"-unit:
The changing from Sturm-Geschütz-Brigade to the Sturm_Artillerie-Brigade was
not because of the Sonder-Batterie, but of adding a StuG-escort-btty, which
did happen a few days before forming the Sonder-Batterie.


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Post by Andy H » 30 Jul 2002, 18:58

This unit whatever it's exact designation etc was very powerfully armed in terms of Stug's and so late in the war.

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