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Sonderverband 288 + Sonderverband 287

Post by kfbr392 » 19 Nov 2004 17:35

Who has info on Sonderverband 288 and Sonderverband 287?

Here is what I have:

Sonderverband 288 was a Kampfgruppe formed from Arabs and Germans who had lived in Africa for service in Iraq, however the Iraqi rebellion failed and while Sonderverband Kompanie 287 went to the Balkans/Russia, Sonderverband Kampfgruppe 288 was sent to North Africa. Not being used for it's intended purpose, it was re-organised to be more suitable for use as a conventional combat unit. Finally it was again re-organised and renamed to become a Panzer Grenadier Regiment.

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The 1./2.Komp. and the III.Batl. of the Lehr -Rgmt./Brandenburg z.b.v 800 was on June 1941 [North Africa] temporarily redesignated as Sonderverband 287, and assigned to Wuesten Brigade Felmy [General der Flieger Felmy]-Sonderstab F

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Sonderverband 288, Summer 1941:
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Stab m/ StKp
PzSpähTrupp
AufklZug m/ Druckereitrupp
1. Sonder Kp m/ LehrReg z.b.V. 800 der Abwehr (Brandenburger)
2. GebJg Kp
3. Schützen Kp
4. MG Kp
5. PzJg Kp m/ StuG Zug
6. Flak Kp
7. Pio Kp
Nachrichten Kp

Arrival in North Africa January 1942.



Source: Kaltenegger "dt. Gebirgstruppe" p.230



who knows more?
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Post by Abel Ravasz » 19 Nov 2004 18:00

Hi,

a few months ago, I've prepared a small essay on the SV 287 and its successors.

I have mainly used internet sources, and a great deal of the information comes from the informative posts of Marko V(idmar) on this forum.

Grenadier Brigade (mot.) 92

Commanders:

Oberst Werner von Hildebrandt (1/6/44? – 11/44)
Oberst Grosser (Grasser?)

Composition:

- 4 May 1942
Stabs-Kompanie
Panzer-Späh-Kompanie 287
leichte Pioniere Kompanie 287
1-4./Panzer-Grenadier-Bataillon 287
Panzer-Jäger-Kompanie 287
Nachrichten-Abteilung (mot) 287 (2 Kompanien)
Werfer-Batterie287
Nachschubführer 287
Versorgungs-Einheiten 287
Sturmgeschütze Batterie 287 (Oblt Helmut Lipke, Oblt Otto Ritzel, Lt Helmut Radefeld)

- 23 February 1943:
2 strong battalions (each over 400 men)
3 Stugs
5 light Flak guns
1 heavy Flak guns
5 15cm Werfers
1 heavy Pak
5 medium Pak
(Kampfwert I. - unlimited offensive capability)

- 11 January 1945:
I. (4 coy)
II. (4 coy),
Pz.Jg.Abt. 192 (4 coy)
Art.Abt. 192 (3 Abt)
Pi.Btl. 192 (3 coy)

Lineage:

4/8/42 – formed at Döberitz, also known as Deutsch-Arabische Legion, with one battalion of 2-300 men, from Arabs of the 845. battalion, Brandenburgers of the 1., 2. coy and III. Bn of Lehr-Reg Brandenburg zbV 800 and others.

15/8/42 – StuG Batt 287 assigned to unit.

21/8/42 – unit transferred to the Eastern front as part of Sonderstab F (gen. Felmy) on the wish of the Great Mufti who wanted to enlarge Muslim presence in the area.

10/9/42 – Reg. Stab. zbV formed from parts of Sonderstab F, unit renamed Mot. Reg. zbV.

9/42 – deployed at the Kalmyk Steppe, Northeast of the Terek, between Gr. Schwerin and Gr. Jungschultz

15/10/42 – 4. GCC breached the defensive line of the unit, but didn’t manage to hold positions and had to retreat, mainly because of insufficient supplies.

22/10/42 – reinforced with II. and III. bns. The III. bn operated independently in Tunis and was never really part of unit.

30/11/42 – unit destroyed a regiment of the 4. GCC in conjunction with the Kos Reg v. Jungschultz.

1/43 – began retreat from the Caucasus, occupied Rostov bridgeheas then pulled back to the Mius.

11/2/43 – under Gen.Komm. zbV., PzAOK 4

16/2/43 – under Gen.Komm. zbV., PzAOK 4

20/2/43 – unit sent XXIX. AK (Obstfelder) at Matvejev Kurgan to help beat off 4. GMC’s breakthrough in the area.

24/2/43 – unit arrives at Matvejev Kurgan, but situation already under control. Regiment, also called Gren Reg (mot) 287 is subordinated to 23. Pz Div. Heavy losses during the fighting for Mius.

29/3/43 – Mius line, directly under XXIX. AK.

4/43 – unit sent back to Germany.

2/5/43 – unit reorganized as Gren Reg (mot) 92 and sent to the Balkan. A light battery and a light engineer company, both from WK II. are attached to the unit.

22/5/43 – StuG Batt 92 (ex-287) detached from unit and sent to Pz Abt Rhodos.

4/10/43 – direct attachment to PzAOK 2.

19/3/44 – took part in Op. Margarethe in Hungary as the main force of KG Hildebrandt, XXII. Geb K.

7-16/5/44 – took part in Op. Morgenstern, Yugoslavia.

25/5/44 – took part in Op. Rösselsprung, Yugoslavia.

5/6/44 – transformed into Gren Brig (mot) 92, and made Heerestruppe, while also keeping the regimental command within this structure.

6/44 – XV. GebK, PzAOK 2.

8/44 – Gr. Schneckenburger, A-A Serbia, HGr F.

9/44 – Gr. Schneckenburger, HGr F, Belgrad.

11/10/44 – parts at Gr. Schneckenburger, parts at Gr. Stern, HGr F, Belgrad, reinforced with an SS Flak Abt, an Art Bn and parts of 468. PzSp Kp, heavy losses.

11/44 – remnants at LXVIII. AK, PzAOK 2.

12/44 – LXVIII. AK, PzAOK 2

11/1/45 – unit renamed Pz Gren Brig 92.

31/1/45 – unit refreshed and reorganized, Art Abt 192 and Pi Bn 192 are formed from the light batt and the light eng coy. A new Pz Jg Abt 192 is formed, and is later reinforced by the JPz Kp 1192.

2/45 – reserve at PzAOK 2 at the Dráva river near Kaposvár. Parts engaged in Frühlingserwachsen.

3/45 – regiment staff and staff coy detached and used independently, for the last time at Div zbV 608.

5-21/3/45 – part of XXXXIII. AK, SS PzAOK 6.

14/3/45 – march to the AOK 6 as a Sperrverband northeast of the Balaton. Assembled at Veszprém and joined the AOK 3 (h) in the Esztergom bridgehead. The brigade counterattacked in the direction of Kisbér in conjunction with the 1. Huszár Div.

18-26/3/45 – area of Tatabánya – Felsőgalla – Lábatlan as part of 96. Inf Div. Stayed in the Lábatlan bridgehead until the end of the month.

31/3/45 – part of PzK FHH, AOK 8.

4/45 – retreat through Komárom – Érsekújvár as part of IV. PzK (FHH), AOK 8. Retreat to the area northeast of Bratislava (Fatra mountains) through Nyitra.

4/4/45 – retreat to Marchegg at the Breitensee. Unit participated in the defense of the March and Pillichsdorf.

6-11/4/45 – unit part of 96. Inf Div, later the 37. SS Kav Div

12/4/45 – part of PzK FHH, AOK 8

14-15/4/45 – fighting through the area of Hornsberg with the Lützow.

5/5/45 – reached Hollabrunn, dissolved by the OKW.

6/5/45 – formally still noted as direct attachment to AOK 8.

Info compiled by Abel Ravasz.
Parts of the info courtesy of Marko Vidmar.


Hope this helps,
Best,

Abel

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Post by kfbr392 » 20 Nov 2004 15:28

thanks abel!
i found this

One of the most daring plans was to be carried out by Kampfgruppe Hecker, made up of the 13th Brandenburger Company, elements of 33rd and 39th Panzerjager Battalion, 778th Pioneer Landing Company, and accompanied by the Italian 3rd San Marco Marine Battalion, a total of over 700 men. This was an aborted raid to try and cut the Via Balbia supply route by making an amphibious landing 30km east of Tobruk during the attack on the Gazala Line in May 1942. This amphibious strike force was assembled in Bomba Bay, well west and north of Tobruk. The attacking force would be transported from Bomba to their objective by four self-propelled landing barges and two landing boats. These were to be preceded by four boats from 6th Minesweeper Florilla based at Derna. This amphibious assault force would land well east of Tobruk and try to disguise themselves as British troops until their blockade efforts were in place.

To cover this landing force, five boats of the 3rd Torpedo Boat Flotilla from Ras el Hilal were to patrol ahead and attack any enemy ships they encountered. Five German submarines were also on call to support the operation, and the Luftwaffe would supply the crucial air cover. The type of captured British tanks to be used on this mission is far from clear, but the most logical choice appears to be Crusaders, since these would attract the least attention in this time frame. There were also two German S/P guns assigned to this operation and it had been suggested that they might have been the two StuG. IIIs that arrived in Africa with Sonderverband 288, since they reportedly mounted 75mm guns.

One tank was placed on each of three barges, with the Land-Wasser-Schlepper (LWS) on a landing boat. The other equipment was spread among the various crafts and consisted of three 50mm and six 37mm A/T guns; four 2-pdr British A/T guns; ten British trucks; four British armored cars; four motorcycles; three 45mm mortars; over 5000 sandbags; 300 mines; 50 anti-tank charges; plus adequate light and heavy MGs and 10 anti-tank rifles. They were also issued 250 shovels and 250 pickaxes, so they certainly had intentions of filling those sandbags and setting up a determined blocking force. The landing force carried enough ammunition and food for 3 days, and supply by night from the sea would bring additional supplies if they had to hold out longer.

Rommel's orders for the May 26 assault on the Gazala Line closed with these lines: "On X+1 Kampfgruppe Hecker will land at Gabr Si. Hameida to block the Via Balbia in the area of Kilometer 136." However, this amphibious operation was never launched, and the reason why seems to have been lost in the annals of time. It is suggested that the required air support was not forthcoming, and that one of the barges had sustained damage. It is acknowledged that the vehicles had been loaded and the force was ready to go, but no orders to proceed were given. Seemingly they disembarked, only to be instructed to proceed with the mission again on May 28th. Then within 20 minutes another order arrives cancelling the operation again.


source http://cosmos.oninetspeed.pt/dak/dak/brandenburger.htm




now, i read in a book that a u-boat was observing the designated landing beaches a day ahead of the landing day, and it saw british artillery and tanks arriving and hiding out - the plan had been leaked to the british. the uboat could not surface and use its radio, but at nightfall it did and learned that the landing had already been canceled. reasons unknown.





here is some more info on 287+288;



Sonderverband 287/288

Sonderverband 287:
Aufgestellt 4.8.1942 aus dem Sonderstab''F'' (Felmy), der ursprünglich für einen Einsatz im Irak vorgesehen war. Der Sd.Verb. 287 erscheint auch als Deutsch-Arabische Legion oder Wüsten-Sonderverband. Aufgabe war der Einsatz in der Nordafrikanischen Wüste zu Sonderunternehmungen im Rücken der allierten Front, aber auch zum Flankenschutz des DAK im Süden. In diesem Verband diente ein Reihe von arabischen Freiwilligen. 22.10.1942 vestärkt durch II. Btl (7. u. 8. Kp); III. Btl (9. - 12. Kp). III. Btl und Masse der anderen Einheiten kapitulieren Mai 1943 in Tunis.
Stab, I. u. II. Einsatz in Südrußland, werden am 2.5.1943 umbenannt in Stab, I., II./PzGrenRgt 92.


Der Sonderverband 288 wurde ab Juni 1941 in Potsdam aufgestellt. Aufgabe diese Verbandes sollte der Vorstoß zum Suezkanal und dessen Besetzung bis zum Eintreffen deutscher Truppen oder die Zerstörung und Ausschaltung als Transportweg sein. Als mögliche Routen für den Anmarsch waren geplant:
- durch die nordafrikanische Wüste von Libyen aus
- nach dem Einmarsch in Rußland und Eroberung des Kaukasus durch Persien, den Irak und Palästina hindurch.
Zum vorgesehenen Einsatz am Suezkanal kam es nie. Mit dem Befehl Ia 5910/42 der Panzerarmee wurde der Sonderverband ab dem 28. August 1942 in Panzer-Grenadier-Regiment Afrika umbenannt, welcher jedoch erst am 31. Oktober 1942 durchgeführt wurde.


Gliederung: Gliederung Sonderverband 287 August 1942 (alles mot.):
-Stabs-Kompanie
-Panzer-Späh-kompanie
-leichte Pionerkompanie 287
-Nachrichtenabteilung 287 (2 Kompanien)
-(Pz-)Gren.Btl 287 (4 Kompanien) - später I. Btl Sd.Verb. 287
-Werfer-Batterie 287
-Sturmgeschütz-Bttr. 287
-Nachschub-Führer 287 mit Versorgungseinheiten 287 (Transportkolonnen, Werkstattzug, Nachschubkompanie)
-Sanitätskompanie (gekürzt).

Der Sonderverband 288 bestand ursprünglich aus (alles mot.):
- Stab und Stabskompanie
- Aufklärungszug mit Panzer-Spähtrupp
- 1. Kompanie vom Lehr-Regiment z.b.V. 800 der Abwehr (Rgt Brandenburg)
- 2. Kompanie Gebirgsjäger-Kp (aus Wehrkreis VII)
- 3. Kompanie Schützen-Kompanie (aus Wehrkreis XI)
- 4. Kompanie MG-Kompanie (aus Wehrkreis IV)
- 5. Kompanie Panzerjäger-Kompanie (aus Wehrkreis VI), dazu ein Sturmgeschützzug (aus Wehrkreis XIII)
- 6. Kompanie Fla-Kp (aus Wehrkreis VI)
- 7. Kompanie Pionierkompanie (aus Wehrkreis XI)
- Nachrichtenkompanie (aus Wehrkreis IV)
- kleine Spezialtrupps wie Sanitätskräfte mit Kenntnissen in der Tropenmedizin; Dolmetschertrupp mit 20 Arabern, Öl- und Wassersuchtrupps, Geologen
9./Flak-Abteilung 25


Kommandeure: Sonderverband 288: Oberst Menton

Kämpfe/Aufträge: Während des Feldzuges in Afrika meistens im Rahmen der 90. leichten Division eingesetzt.


source http://www.deutsches-afrikakorps.de/htm ... sov288.htm

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Post by byron » 05 Dec 2006 16:03

Hallo there,

Hier are some informations i have, sorry but they are in german:

Sonderverband 288 Gesamtstärke, über 2.000 Mann

Kdr. : Oberst Otto Menton, in Rumänien bei den Ölfelder von einem Russen im Nahkampf erschlagen
Adj., : Hptm. Robert Borchardt, Kdr. ab 02.1942 der le.Wüsten-Abtl. I.-III., anstelle von Hptm. Daumiller
24.07.41 in Potsdam aufgestellt. Am 28.09.1941 wurde der Verband am Potsdamer Bahnhof verladen. 01.10.1941 Ankunft in Lavrion (der Stab des Sonderverbandes auf Kap Sounion) dem Sonderstab F unterstellt. Bis 24.10.41 alle eingetroffen.
Am 16.11.1941 flogen der 1. und der 3. Zug der 2./S.V. 288 über Iraklion nach Bengasi und wurden dem "Sperrverband Daumiller" unterstellt. Anfang März 1942 kamen die in Griechenland verbliebenen Teile des S.V. 288 mit dem Kommandeur Oberst Menton, in Afrika an. Somit war der Verband wieder vollzählig.
Er wurde zu drei Kampfgruppen / Bataillonen umgeformt, aus denen am 31.10.1941 das Pz.Gren.Rgt. "Afrika" entstand. Es blieben in Sounion, Stab, 3 Schtz.Kp., 2/3 MG Kp., 1 Pi.Zug, 1 Geb.Jg.Zug, 2/3 Nachr.Kp. Daraus wurde ein neuer Schulverband aufgestellt. Hptm. Werner Daumiller und Ltn. Stocky kehrten Anfang 1942, nach Erledigung der Kampfaufgabe, zum Verband zurück.
22.11.41 der “Sond.Stab F“ und der „Sond.Verb. 288“ stellen zwei bewegliche Sperrverbände wie folgt auf:
1. Verband, mit Fp.Nr. 45 286 , Kdr., Hptm. Werner Daumiller, Adj., Ltn. Stocky, am 27.11.41 nach Bengasi
1. Kp., mit 2 Geb.Jg. Zügen, Kp.Chef Oblt. Thumser plus ein Arzt, 2. Kp., mit 2 Pi.Zügen, Kp.Chef Oblt. Leue
2. Verband, Pz.Jg.Verband, Kdr., Hptm. Robert Borhardt, mit 2 Schtz.Zügen, Pak-Kp., Flak-Kp., Aufkl.Trupp
Im 02.42 nach Afrika; Hptm. Borhardt hat Hptm. Daumiller ersetzt, der nach Sounion zurückkehrte.

23.09.42-05.43 = Gen.Kdo.z.b.V.
06.43-10.44 = Gen.Kdo. LXVIII. A.K.

40 104 A-B (01.10.41-10.03.42) = Stab u.Stabs-Kp. mit Pz.Spähtrupp, Aufkl.Zug, Übers.Trupp,
Ölsuchtrupp und Druckereitrupp (vom Lehr-Rgt. z.b.V. 800)
Kdr., Oberst Otto Menton / Markopulon

07 836 (01.10.41-10.03.42) = 1. Sonder-Kp. (Auslanddeutsche, Legionäre) / in Kaliwia
Kp.Chef,
34 909 (01.10.41-16.11.41) = 2. Geb.Jäg.Kp. Kp.Chef, Oblt. Joachim Thumser / Lavrion
Zugf., Ltn. Werner Kost, Ltn. Karl Hackstetter, Ltn. Theo Kiefner
Vet., Ltn. Dr. Werner Schäfer, Spieß, Stfw. Georg Dischinger,
Schreibst. Hfw. Hugo Kreuzer, Fw., sp. Ltn. Hanns Schwarzmeier
21 271 (01.10.41-10.03.42) = 3. Schützen-Kp. (Infanteristen) / Lavrion
Kp.Chef, Oblt. Schröder
Zugf., Ltn. Buchholz, Ltn. Krusendorf, Ltn. Bronandt
41 864 (01.10.41-10.03.42) = 4. MG-Kp. / Kalithea
Kp.Chef,
42 473 (01.10.41-10.03.42) = 5. Pz.Jäg.Kp. / mit Sturmg.Zug
Btr.Chef, / Pakzug in Koropi
46 381 (01.10.41-10.03.42) = 6. Fla.Kp. / Koropi
Kp.Chef,
00 566 (01.10.41-10.03.42) = 7. Pi.Kp. / Lavrion
Kp.Chef, Oblt. Leue
Zugf., 12.41 Ltn. Buchelli
23 357 (01.10.41-10.03.42) = 8. Nachr.Kp. / Markopulon
Kp.Chef,
43 068 (01.10.41-10.03.42) = 9. Mediz.Kp.
Kp.Chef, Oberarzt Dr. Fröhlich,
Ass.Arzt Dr.Med. Edler Freiherr von Czainek

39 992 (01.10.41-10.03.42) = Kl.Kw.Kol. Kol.Fü.

Die Deutsch-Arabische Lehrabteilung


06.41-07.42 in Kap Sunion, aus dem Sonderstab F als D.A.L (sp. III. Btl.) aufgestellt.
Die Abteilung wurde aus arabischen Freiwilligen aus Irak, Syrien, Palästina und Nordafrika in einer Deutsch-Arabischen Legion eingegliedert, auch Deutsch-Arabische Lehrabteilung genannt (DAL).
Diese umfaßte im Mai 1942 ca. 130 Araber. Die Einheiten wurden laufend verstärkt mit Freiwilligen aus den genannten Ländern; darunter auch Schwarze!
Gleichzeitig wurde beim Sonderstab "F" ein Regimentsstab z.b.V. für die DAL aufgestellt. Dieser hatte die Fp.Nr. 26 511, welche für die DAL bis zu deren Ende Geltung hatte.

Ende Juli 1942 verließ die DAL Athen und wurde per Bahn nach Stalino/Südrußland versetzt. Das jetzt genannte III. Btl. bestand aus zwei Kompanien, zwei weitere befanden sich in Aufstellung. Die Bezeichnung DAL hatte bis 08/09.1942 in Stalino Geltung, wenn auch dazwischen andere Benennungen auftauchten.

In Stalino wurde das jetzt genannte "Generalkommando z.b.V." aufgefühlt. Im Sommer 1942 wurde vom Sonderstab "F" in Döberitz ein motorisierter Nachrichtenzug aufgestellt (nur aus deutschem Personal). Führer war Leutnant Heydebreck. Dieser Nachrichtenzug wurde im Aug./Sept. 1942 ebenfalls nach Stalino transportiert und dort mit dem aus Cap Sounion gekommenen III. Btl. zusammengeführt.
Der erste Kommandeur des III. Btl. war Hauptmann Schober.

Am 04.08.1942 ist aus dem Rgts.Stab z.b.V. der Sonderstab 287 herausgegangen, der außer 2 deutschen Bataillonen die im August 1943 in Döberitz aufgestellt waren, nun auch das III. sogenannte Deutsch-Arabische Btl. zugehörte. Im Sept./Okt. 1942 wurde der Verband in Pz.Gren.Rgt. 287 umbenannt.

Mitte Dezember 1942 wurde das III. Btl. verladen und in einer 14 Tage dauernden Fahrt nach Sizilien verbracht. Das I. und II. Btl. wurde danach als Heerestruppe in Südrußland eingesetzt und am 02.05.1943 in Gren.Rgt. 92 umbenannt.

In Bagheria bei Palermo verbrachte das III. Btl. den Januar 1943 und setzte Ende Jan./Anf.Febr.1943 nach Tunesien über. Ein Rest-Kommando blieb in Bagheria zurück. Mit Eintreffen in Tunesien war das III. Btl. mit Hptm. Schober wieder Teil der DAL unter dem Kdo. von Obstltn. Meyer-Ricks.

Im Februar 1943 wurde das Pz.Gren.Rgt. 287 in die Miusfront verlegt. Bald im motorisierten Marsch nach Mariupol und durch Ungarn nach Jugoslawien.
Feldgend.Trupp, Pz.Späh-Kp., Nachrichten-Abtl. und Nachschub folgten im Juni 1943 dem in Athen neu aufgestelten LXVIII. A.K. unter Gen. Helmut Felmy.


26 511 (06.1941-07.1942) = Deutsch-Arabische Lehrabteilung / Cap Sounion
A-C mit 2 Kompanien, 9., 10 Kp.
Kdr., ab 01.42 Hptm. Schober, 24.02.43 in Afrika gefallen
Rest-Kdo., 01.43, Fü. Ltn. Grosse
04.43, prov. Araber-Kp., Kp.Chef., Hptm. Herrmann
Stellvertreter, Ltn. Heinz Heydebreck
Zugf., Fw. Ali Achmed Eddlibi


05 599 (06.1941-07.1942) = Betr.Unters.Tr. 24 (Kraftstoffuntersuchung)
Tuppf., 03.43 Kr.Ing. Mikula

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Post by Dimitrii » 08 Jul 2007 21:39

Could this unit have been in Albanien by september 1943?

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Sonderverband 288

Post by byron » 22 Jul 2007 19:38

No, only Greece and Africa

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Post by Andreas » 02 Jan 2008 14:14

Does anyone know which equipment reached the Sonderverband 288 in January/February 1941?

Many thanks.

All the best

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Re: Sonderverband 288 + Sonderverband 287

Post by WEISWEILER » 20 Jan 2014 18:07

More info on Sv 288 commander Otto Menton (Kampfgruppe Menton), here: http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic.php?t=98657

Additional: 8 January 1943 Menton received the Deutsches Kreuz in Gold. This means the commander allready had the Eisernes Kreuz 1. Klasse, or Kriegsverdienstkreuz 1.Klasse with Swords.

And (eleged) fotos of Sv 287/288 officers, here: http://www.wehrmacht-awards.com/Forums/ ... p?t=508139
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Post by WEISWEILER » 20 Jan 2014 18:18

This would be the 3th battalion of Sonderverband 288

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Post by WEISWEILER » 20 Jan 2014 18:23

Picture form the album of a Feldgendarmerie NCO of Sv 287. Note the Sonderverband sleeve badge of the soldier in the Kübelwagen.

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Re: Sonderverband 288 + Sonderverband 287

Post by Kroener17 » 26 Jan 2014 05:53

If you want a good read on the Arabs in the wehrmacht I recommend "Lions of the Desert" by Antonio J Munoz. Very hard to find but well worth the effort. :thumbsup:
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Re: Sonderverband 288 + Sonderverband 287

Post by Urmel » 01 Feb 2014 14:41

There's some quite detailed info here:

http://rommelsriposte.com/2012/10/13/a- ... rband-288/

And another post on the initial arrival in North Africa:

http://rommelsriposte.com/2009/03/01/tr ... to-africa/

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Re: Sonderverband 288 + Sonderverband 287

Post by CNE503 » 08 Feb 2014 12:56

Hello,

Did the small elements of Sonderverband 288 deployed in Libya on November, 16th 1941 remain under Division zbV "Afrika"/90. Leichte Division after February 1942?

I read that the whole unit was deployed in North Africa from Greece early March 1942, and that only two reinforced gebirgsjäger platoons (1. and 3. Züge from 2.(Geb.)/Sonderverband 288) were sent late November 1941 under Hauptmann Daumiller as a defensive blocking unit (Sperrverband "Daumiller"). Has anyone a detailed list of what Sonderverband 288 units were under 90. Leichte Division subordination between November 1941 and March 1942?

Thanks for any help provided,
Cheers,

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Re: Sonderverband 288 + Sonderverband 287

Post by Urmel » 08 Feb 2014 13:34

Salut

Have a look here:

http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic. ... 1&start=30

It was bit more than just two platoons.
Mid-January I have: staff, 2 platoons mountain rifle company, 2 platoons AT company with 6 37mm ATG, 3 platoons AA company with 11 20mm guns, 2 platoons sapper company, total around 400 men

Subordination is also a bit more complicated than your question implies:

1) November
Sperrverband "Daumiller" not subordinated to 90. Leichte, but to General Osterkamp's Benghazi command
2) December
Sperrverband "Daumiller" moves to subordination under 90. Leichte, when the latter is pulled back to Agedabia, effective 14 December
3) January
Sperrverband "Daumiller" is subordinated to 90. Leichte administratively, but moves to tactical subordination under Italian XXI.CA by order Panzergruppe 4 January 1942, and takes over Marada from the Italians, reporting through 90. Leichte to Panzergruppe Command
4) February
Sperrverband "Daumiller" is pulled out of Marada to Barce area (order on 2 February), where it is supposed to arrive by 11 Feb, and comes under command 90. Leichte.

Hope this helps.

I am not sure when the remainder of SV288 arrived at present, I need to dig through my files. I don't think they arrived in January.
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Re: Sonderverband 288 + Sonderverband 287

Post by CNE503 » 08 Feb 2014 17:06

Interesting, thanks Urmel!

Did the engineers, the AT and AA guns flight from Greece to Libya late November 1941 too, like the two Gebirgsjäger platoons?
Must I understand that the Sperrverband "Daumiller" was in no way organically subordinated to 90. Division before the arrival of the whole Sonderverband 288 (later Panzergrenadier Regiment (motorisiert) "Afrika")?

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