German combat use of stimulants & D-IX wins them the war

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Re: German combat use of stimulants & D-IX wins them the war

Post by stg 44 » 24 Nov 2015 16:44

Sheldrake wrote:The British Army, and other armed forces issued amphetamines. There are some on display at the Pegasus Bridge Museum.

Taking some stimulant ahead of an intense period of effort seemed like a good idea. But warfare is rarely predictable. There was an obvious benefit One Royal Artillery tried them out on a pre D Day digging exercise, but instead discovered the big problem. The exercise was delayed by 12 hours, but only after the guinea pigs had taken the drugs, leaving the key personnel unable to sleep when they needed to rest and exhausted when they needed to work.
The rather obvious solution is to wait to take them after the action begins.

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Re: German combat use of stimulants & D-IX wins them the war

Post by Sheldrake » 24 Nov 2015 18:41

stg 44 wrote:
Sheldrake wrote:The British Army, and other armed forces issued amphetamines. There are some on display at the Pegasus Bridge Museum.

Taking some stimulant ahead of an intense period of effort seemed like a good idea. But warfare is rarely predictable. There was an obvious benefit One Royal Artillery tried them out on a pre D Day digging exercise, but instead discovered the big problem. The exercise was delayed by 12 hours, but only after the guinea pigs had taken the drugs, leaving the key personnel unable to sleep when they needed to rest and exhausted when they needed to work.
The rather obvious solution is to wait to take them after the action begins.
That is fine with hindsight, but "order followed by counter order" and "rush to wait" are the norm. It is far easier to issue a warning order that says "no move before X" than one which states "not action after Y"

I suspect commanders preferred a consistent 70% performance rather than a high followed by a trough. Some of the other side effects were probably considered unhelpful, operations were stressful enough without drugs which had the side effects of paranoia, panic irritability and paranoia.

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Re: German combat use of stimulants & D-IX wins them the war

Post by Von Schadewald » 20 Oct 2023 14:33

How does Captagon compare to Pervitin for combat?

"Hamas Captagon battle stimulant/anxyolitic drug"
https://www.jpost.com/health-and-wellne ... cle-769250

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