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Re: High Scorers with Panzers and Paks

Post by Tom from Cornwall » 16 Feb 2021 08:42

Tom from Cornwall wrote:
09 Feb 2021 20:26
Not that it will have any impact on those determined to make up the numbers as they go along, but I found this video discussion very valuable at exorcising any of my remaining doubts as to the ridiculous nature of many German "tank claims":
It looks like I was right about reality and this thread not being connected. :lol: :lol:

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Re: High Scorers with Panzers and Paks

Post by Cult Icon » 16 Feb 2021 15:11

Despite the extremely heavy armored combat, among the proposals concerning the Eastern Front June-August 1944 and approved in this timeframe.. there was only one SS crewman with tank kill claims:

In the fighting at the Tannenberg line from July 26, 1944 onward, SS-Unterscharfuhrer Derk-Elsko Bruins (SS Nederland Brigade) was credited with 5 and 6 kills on two separate days, totaling 11.
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Post by Cult Icon » 16 Feb 2021 15:38

German Cross in Gold proposals for armor crewman sometimes have individually credited kill claims as well (for cited combat days).. These claims are typically less than the RK ones. But sometimes just as high.

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Post by Cult Icon » 17 Feb 2021 20:26

I am working through the German Cross in Gold proposals of the 2.SS division, focusing on West Front claims:

SS-Hauptscharfuhrer Erich Mork credited with a total of 7 tanks destroyed on Sept 16th, Sept 19th, Sept 29th 1944 during the fighting on the West wall. He operated the only tank support for the Regiment "Der Fuhrer".

On December 24, 1944, Untersturmfuhrer Erich Mork was credited with 3 Shermans during the fighting at Lamormenil.

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Re: High Scorers with Panzers and Paks

Post by Gastolli » 17 Feb 2021 20:52

Cult Icon wrote:
17 Feb 2021 20:26
... credited with a total of 7 tanks destroyed on Sept 16th, Sept 19th, Sept 29th 1944 during the fighting on the West wall. ...
Hello Cult Icon,

isn't it 1943 for those kill claims? This according to my notes from the book by Mark Yerger.

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Re: High Scorers with Panzers and Paks

Post by Cult Icon » 17 Feb 2021 20:56

Gastolli wrote:
17 Feb 2021 20:52
isn't it 1943 for those kill claims? This according to my notes from the book by Mark Yerger.

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Hello, no- it is 1944.

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Post by Cult Icon » 17 Feb 2021 23:44

SS-Haupsturmfuhrer Ortwin Pol (4th company SS Panzer regiment 2) credited with 4 tank kills on July 28, 1944. 3 tank kills on July 30th, 1944.

December 24-25, 1944 he was credited with 4 tank kills.

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Post by Cult Icon » 17 Feb 2021 23:55

SS-Obersturmfuhrer Joachim Schlomka (2nd company SS Panzer regiment 2) credited with 6 Sherman tanks knocked out on July 30, 1944.

On August 2, 1944 he was credited with 4 Sherman tanks.

That's it for the 2.SS division.

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Post by Cult Icon » 18 Feb 2021 01:56

SS-Panzerjager Battalion 12's (12.SS Division) RK proposals:

Rottenfuhrer Eckstein credited with 8 tank kills at St. Aignan-de-Cramesnil. On August 9th,1944 he was credited with a further 13 tank kills raising his tally to a total of 26 tanks knocked out.

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Post by Cult Icon » 18 Feb 2021 02:00

SS- Obersturmfuhrer George Hurdelbrink (SS PzJ battalion 12) credited with 11 tank kills on August 8, 1944.

He was credited with a further 10 kills on August 10, 1944.

So between August 8-16, 1944, he was credited with 36 kills.

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Post by Cult Icon » 18 Feb 2021 02:04

SS-Oberscharfuhrer Rudolf Roy (SS PzJ battalion 12) credited with 13 tank kills on August 9, 1944, raising his total in the past 5 days to 26 kills, with his total kills on East and West fronts at 36.

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Re: High Scorers with Panzers and Paks

Post by Cult Icon » 18 Feb 2021 02:08

SS-Panzerjager Battalion 12's (12.SS Division) German Cross in Gold proposals:

Hauptscharfuhrer Mack credited with 1 tank kill on August 8, 1944, raising his total to 21.

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Post by Cult Icon » 18 Feb 2021 02:22

SS Panzer Regiment 12 :

Standartenoberjunker Ullrich Ahrens (2nd company) credited with 4 tank kills at the Caen airfield and 1 Sherman at Maltot.

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Post by Cult Icon » 18 Feb 2021 02:32

Hauptscharfuhrer Heinz Lehmann (4th company SS Panzer Regiment 12) credited with 2 anti-tank guns at Rots-Bretteville.

Hauptsturmfuhrer Erich Pohl credited with 4 tank kills on the "invasion front".

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Re: High Scorers with Panzers and Paks

Post by Cult Icon » 18 Feb 2021 04:32

https://www.tracesofwar.com/persons/302 ... -Franz.htm

SS-Hauptscharführer Frauscher, point Zugführer in the I./SS-Panzer-Regiment ‘Das Reich’ credited with 9 tank kills on 24.12.1944.

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