CO Panzerjäger-Abteilung 559, Sept.44?

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Re: CO Panzerjäger-Abteilung 559, Sept.44?

Post by recce103c » 03 Dec 2010 17:16

Thanks so far ACE
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Re: CO Panzerjäger-Abteilung 559, Sept.44?

Post by A.C.E. van T. » 09 Dec 2010 19:49

Just for departure.

Remnants of 559 and 667 with probably a battalion of HG moved via Dordrecht/Moerdijk to Kruisland and stayed the night and moved towards Wouwse Plantage the next day at the end of October 1944.
Near Roosendaal there was a tankbattle with 5 Tigers(according to Brittish reports).
My personal opinion is that they must have been probably 5 panthers of 559,but I haven´t had time yet to investigate this for sure.
What is sure is that HG units were send to Roosendaal.
Later HG also replaced Fallschirmjager Regiment 6 at ´Panzersperre de Zoom ´(Bergen op Zoom)

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Post by recce103c » 09 Dec 2010 21:44

Yeah, aware of that; I conducted an BFT there last year

enjoy the trip!
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Re: CO Panzerjäger-Abteilung 559, Sept.44?

Post by steelreign » 11 Dec 2010 21:49

Hey Everybody,

I have just a few questions about th 559. I've found this particular thread Very valuable !!
I take it that the 559 was in Belgium for the latter part of the war ? Most interested in where they were from Nov. '44 - Jan. '45.

1) Would any one have any pictures of the Jagd-Panthers from the 559 during the time frame of Nov.'44 - Jan. '45 ?

2) What color would the tactical Numbers on the side of the Jagd-Panther have been ?

I have the Panzer Tracts 9-3 on the history of the Jagd-Panther & the Combat history of the 654th, but I'm finding information on the 559th very hard to come by, save this thread, has any one released a book on the Combat history of the 559th ?

Thanx on Advance for any or all information !

ERIK
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Re: CO Panzerjäger-Abteilung 559, Sept.44?

Post by Sam Wren » 11 Dec 2010 23:37

Eric,

On the first page of this thread the history is mentioned several times: "Missbraucht und gebeutelt" by F. Kopka; Chronik der s.PzjägerAbt.559.

It is ultra rare, though. It would be nice if it could be republished on a wider scale like Schneider did with Kortenhaus's history of the 21st Panzer Division which was similarly rare and impossible to find.

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Post by steelreign » 12 Dec 2010 01:19

Hey Sam,

I came in half way through this thread & have since backtracked to find the Placement. But I still have two Burning questions :

1) Would any one have any pictures of the Jagd-Panthers from the 559 during the time frame of Nov.'44 - Jan. '45 ?

2) What color would the tactical Numbers on the side of the Jagd-Panther have been ?

I'm building a Jagd-Panther & the decal sheet has the Call Numbers as Red outlined in White ... I just wanna make sure that's accurate.

Thanx for the head-up on the beginning of the post.
Any help in this is Greatly Appreciated - Thanx in Advance,

ERIK
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Re: CO Panzerjäger-Abteilung 559, Sept.44?

Post by Martin Block » 12 Dec 2010 14:10

Whereabouts of s.H.Pz.Jg.Abt. 559 Nov 1944 - Jan 1945:
Nov 12, 1944: Begin of a several day rail transport from Utrecht (Netherlands) to Wissembourg (Alsace). From there road march to Haguenau area.
Nov 24 - 30, 1944: Tactically attached to Pz.Lehr-Div. and operations in Haguenau area.
Until Dec 8, 1944: Continued operations in Haguenau area in LXXXIX. sector.
Dec 8 - 10, 1944: Road and rail Transport to Bullay (Moselle) south of Cochem.
Dec 11, 1944 - Jan 21, 1945: Tactically attached to Pz.Lehr-Div., short refit in Bullay - Cochem area, then transport to Pronsfeld area in preparation for German offensive in the Ardennes.
Late Jan 1945: After BotB attached to 79. VGD in Krautscheid area nw of Bitburg.

Markings used in Netherlands (black? with white outlines) :
Stabskp.: 01, 02, 03
1. - 3. Kp. X01, X02, X11, X12, X13, X14, X21, X22, X23, X24, X31, X32, X33, X34 (replace X with company number)
Jagdpanther were used in Stabskp. and 1. Kp. only.
Style probably kept thereafter, but I'm not 100% sure because photos are rare.

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Post by gunslinger » 12 Dec 2010 19:03

Jagdpanthers of the Panzerjäger-Abteilung 559 in the centre of Tilburg early Sept44.
They where unloaded from a railtransport at Tilburg Station, and moved south, here crossing the Bredaseweg.
This picture was taken by a student who lived on the first floor, and did this with great risk
Interval between the two panzers can be measured by the lady in the left corner.


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Pictures were optained from the RCT Tilburg
i used them in a topic some time ago, but i gues they realy should be in here
if you want them in a larger format just drop a pm, and ill send
regards Henk
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Post by steelreign » 14 Dec 2010 06:54

MARTIN, & GUNSLINGER,

Thank you very much for the Replys ! Martin great info !

Gunslinger .... Would you happen to have any more pix of the 559th's JP's ? I like these but with all of the Foliage it's hard to tell th camo scheme. I'm sure it's on par with th rest.

I would really like to see some pix of the 559th from the Ardennes to see if they applied a White Wash yet & what the camo looked like. I understand these pictures are Rare but .... :milwink:

Thanx in Advance & Thank you very much for sharing the Info !!

ERIK
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Post by A.C.E. van T. » 26 Dec 2010 00:01

steelreign wrote:Hey Everybody,

I have just a few questions about th 559. I've found this particular thread Very valuable !!
I take it that the 559 was in Belgium for the latter part of the war ? Most interested in where they were from Nov. '44 - Jan. '45.
Frontline was in november about Halsteren district(N -Bergen op Zoom)

1) Would any one have any pictures of the Jagd-Panthers from the 559 during the time frame of Nov.'44 - Jan. '45 ?
Yes there are ,I now of 3 made in Tilburg.
Just saw 2 of them in this topic

2) What color would the tactical Numbers on the side of the Jagd-Panther have been ?

I have the Panzer Tracts 9-3 on the history of the Jagd-Panther & the Combat history of the 654th, but I'm finding information on the 559th very hard to come by, save this thread, has any one released a book on the Combat history of the 559th ?

Thanx on Advance for any or all information !

ERIK

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Re: CO Panzerjäger-Abteilung 559, Sept.44?

Post by mikelshoen » 19 Jun 2011 03:20

Can anyone put me in touch with Franz Kopka, author of "Missbraucht und gebeutelt" or can anyone help me acquire a copy of his manuscript on Abt. 559? I have composed a 22-page English-language manuscript on the history of a member of that unit, Paul Steinbrenner and need a better time-line of 559 in Russia to put Paul's recollections in better time-order. I would also like to send a copy of my manuscript to Mr. Kopka. I can send copies of my manuscript to any surviving member of that unit from the time period May 1942 through November 1944. Thank you. Michael Shoen, Arizona USA

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Post by A.C.E. van T. » 19 Jun 2011 22:30

Google : tank Breda

A while ago the tank is restaurated.
To my knowledge the paint is not exactly the same as it shouls be.

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Post by Erwin L » 22 Jun 2011 20:36

Press photo from the jagdpanther which was taken out in Geel
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Re: CO Panzerjäger-Abteilung 559, Sept.44?

Post by Roland-B » 08 Jul 2011 13:38

Hello everyone,

Franz Kopka is my grandpa.

He died at the 21th mai 2011 at the age of 91 Years.
I am proud to read that so many people are interested in what my grandpa did at the 2ed ww.

Greetings Roland

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Post by mikelshoen » 08 Jul 2011 14:29

Roland: Please accept my condolences for the death of your grandfather. My father-in-law, who was in your grandfather's unit, died July 1, 2010 at the age of 88 years. Can you send me a copy of your grandfather's manuscript "Missbraucht und gebeutelt"? I can send you a copy of my 22 page compilation of my father-in-law's experiences as a young man and in the second world war. How do we exchange email or hardcopy addresses? Do you speak English? Thank you. Michael Shoen, Arizona USA

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