Unit identification (SS & Heer)

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Unit identification (SS & Heer)

Post by Ivan Ž. » 02 Nov 2005 14:07

Does anyone recognize this Heer General,
or this SS-Hauptscharführer?

Photo was posted by K.Kocjancic (source: MNZS).
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I believe Heer unit in the background (& man on the right)
is an Gebirgsjäger, or Jäger unit (notice patch between SS & Heer Officer/NCO).

I think SS-Hauptscharführer is also very likely (SS-)Gebirgsjäger.

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Post by VJK » 02 Nov 2005 16:57

Hi!

The General was identified as Generalleutnant Ferdinand Noeldechen.

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Post by Ivan Ž. » 02 Nov 2005 17:36

Thanks!

Photo was (obviously) taken after he was awarded with RK (8.VI 1943).
Perhaps in Austria, while he was commander of Division Nr. 438 (1.XI 1943 - 8.V 1945)?
Maybe summer 1944?

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Post by Mark V. » 02 Nov 2005 17:37

Gen.Lt. Ferdinand Noeldechen was the commander of Division z.b.V. 438, the picture was taken during one of anti-partisan operations in Slovenia in September 1944 see this interesting discussion - http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic.php?t=25085

I'd say the location is the area W of Maribor, the Heer troops are either divisional Landschützen units or more probably from Geb.Jäg.Rgt. Treeck. The SS-Hscha. and the person on the right are either from one of SS-Polizei units or from Rösener's Bandenbekämpfungsstab.

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Post by Ivan Ž. » 02 Nov 2005 17:47

Hvala, Marko :wink:

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Post by Mark V. » 07 Feb 2007 12:28

Zdravo Ivan,

I finally nailed this one:

from left to right - Noeldechen, SS-Hauptscharführer Klemens Druschke (from SD) and would you belive it - a local SD associate Andrej Noc 8O. The picture was taken in Oberkrain.

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Post by faf_476 » 07 Feb 2007 12:43

Any Info about this gents, after the war?

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Post by Ivan Ž. » 07 Feb 2007 12:57

That's good info, Marko!

Btw, is this the same man?
Photo is taken from Wochenschau (filmed somewhere in Balkans)
Ears are identical, I think...

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Post by Mark V. » 07 Feb 2007 13:08

Yes, the same man. Is the picture from a newsreel ?

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Post by Ivan Ž. » 07 Feb 2007 13:15

Yes, I wrote Wochenschau; same thing.

Pozdrav,
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Post by Mark V. » 07 Feb 2007 13:19

Sorry, must have evaded my eyes :wink: . Could you post more stills or perhaps email them (or the clip) to me? Here's another pic of him from Corbatti/Nava: Karstjäger.
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Post by Mark V. » 07 Feb 2007 13:25

Hi faf_476!

Noc and I believe also Druschke settled just over the border in Austria and lived happily ever after :) . Likewise Noeldechen.

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Post by Ivan Ž. » 07 Feb 2007 13:57

Im Schutze der Flak-Waffen gehen
Gebirgsjäger der Polizei und Grenadiere der Waffen-SS
gegen die Wiederstandsneste vor...


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Post by harmel » 07 Feb 2007 15:03

Hi Gents,interesting pic of Noeldechen etc,
according to the author Antonio Munoz Druschkes
last rank was SS Ustuf,thought it would be of interest
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Post by Mark V. » 07 Feb 2007 16:58

Thanks, Ivan.

Have to correct myself, Clemens Druschke was prosecuted by German authorities after the war for his activities in Slovenia but was acquitted.

Marko

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